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RiverLover

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Tue Jul 21, 2015, 07:04 AM Jul 2015

"Bill Clinton’s Apology: Not Accepted!" [View all]

Bill Clinton’s Apology: Not Accepted!
by Herbert Dyer, Jr.
July 21, 2015

....big SNIP....

It was just this past week at the NAACP’s annual confab when Bill Clinton made a naked play for Black votes for his wife Hillary in next year’s presidential sweepstakes. Bill’s ploy followed a similar effort by President Obama himself. Now in his sixth year in office, Obama has had an epiphany of sorts. He has suddenly realized that there may be too many black people locked up and for no good reason. Thus, the President has issued a supremely belated call for an overhaul of the criminal justice system. He has even commuted the sentences of some 40-plus federal prisoners (out of 7,000-plus applicants and 30,000 overall) convicted under draconian drug laws. (Seems more like a commutation lottery than a compassionate or committed effort to right an obvious wrong).

Bill Clinton not only agreed with Obama but went so far as to say that the 1994 anti-crime law he enacted was a major reason so many Black men and women are now languishing in county jails, state and federal prisons, and are otherwise under some form of “supervision” by this nation-state’s “criminal justice system.” And both Obama’s and Bill’s belated “initiatives” follow Hillary’s own call for an end to the “incarceration generation.”

These political theatrics are so chock-full of hypocrisy and cynicism that it is just impossible to ignore: Bill and Hillary Clinton, President Obama, and Democrats and Republicans across the board have all considered Clinton’s 1994 anti-crime law as one of Clinton’s crowning achievements as President. Politicians of all stripes have consistently credited that law with lowering crime rates nationwide by essentially unleashing police forces onto Black communities to rid them of dangerous open-air, street corner drug dealers, uncontrollable drug addicts, shoplifters and other petty thieves of all description, unlicensed/unregistered drivers, illegal U-turners and lane changers, jaywalkers, and, of course, those dastardly public urinaters.

....SNIP....The devastating effects of Clinton’s law are now being felt by millions upon millions of people – mostly Black and Brown people. The numbers are well known by now: 2.2 million-plus people are now behind bars, double the number locked up when Clinton came to power. The US holds a full 25 percent of the entire world’s prisoners, while it constitutes only five percent of its population. Almost half of that percent are Black and Brown people.

The Clintons are counting on the forgiving nature of Black people....

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/21/bill-clintons-apology-not-accepted/
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K&R. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #1
Do not let the oligarchy fool you again FlatBaroque Jul 2015 #2
That Rhodes Scholarship came with a price. PeoViejo Jul 2015 #3
All Presidents... For Freddie Jul 2015 #16
Arrrg! nt haikugal Jul 2015 #82
I get your drift PeoViejo Jul 2015 #87
Going from bragging about to apologizing for devastating policy is quite a journey. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #4
Really bad. If it comes up, I wonder if he'll also apologize for cutting funds for state RiverLover Jul 2015 #6
Or appologize about this: marble falls Jul 2015 #10
Wow. It really was a media black-out on this. I had no idea. Thank you mf. RiverLover Jul 2015 #20
the media does not 'play into their hands' HFRN Jul 2015 #40
OK. You nailed it, and RiverLover Jul 2015 #43
Thank you - in other words they promised much and gave nothing. Now that I look back I cannot jwirr Jul 2015 #53
no, it's not HFRN Jul 2015 #35
No, he's evolved. Honest Doctor_J Jul 2015 #88
+1 NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BILL. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #92
I have not forgotten. TM99 Jul 2015 #5
I hope to FSM that I NEVER have to do that again! Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #13
Amen! Paka Jul 2015 #19
Especially when they come so late and when it will benefit the one apologizing. jwirr Jul 2015 #57
yes, the thought of that is quite repugnant. nt m-lekktor Jul 2015 #80
K&R. n/t bvf Jul 2015 #7
NAFTA classykaren Jul 2015 #8
....Welfare "reform", repealing Glass-Steagal, China PNTR, Outsourcing, Telecommunications Act. RiverLover Jul 2015 #12
"supremely belated", in-fucking-deed. jomin41 Jul 2015 #9
And when we ask how many lives were ruined we must not forget that it was not just the jwirr Jul 2015 #58
"The Clintons are counting on the forgiving nature of Black people...." Hoppy Jul 2015 #11
NO!!! HE IS NOT! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #22
Just noticing your sig pic for the first time....It makes me uncomfortable, I as a white person randys1 Jul 2015 #77
Damn, I forgot what it was, R1! LOL! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #84
A stark reminder of where we all live randys1 Jul 2015 #85
The First Black President! Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #28
they're counting on the forgiving nature of tech workers too HFRN Jul 2015 #33
But this will get NO media attention because she has already been selected nt 7962 Jul 2015 #14
I decided a while back that I will not vote for another Clinton. djean111 Jul 2015 #15
No, you don't have to leave DU if Hillary is the candidate. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #23
Thanks. djean111 Jul 2015 #26
Don't try to figure it out. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #34
Nailed it...n/t zeemike Jul 2015 #39
So Clinton supporters are a "cult of personality?" Adrahil Jul 2015 #45
It's particularly rich given how Bernie supporters have behaved in the wake of BLM stevenleser Jul 2015 #55
Apologizing for instating bad policy seems to be a greater virtue than fighting against bad policy.. frylock Jul 2015 #72
Also I am doing what I can to help Bernie win including donating money. If he loses I will not jwirr Jul 2015 #61
Clintons "co-presidency" produced Bill & Hilary's "incarceration nation" Divernan Jul 2015 #17
THANK YOU Divernan for posting this excerpt! Its probably more relevant than the portion RiverLover Jul 2015 #24
stage 2: Post-incarceration plus the war on drugs virtualobserver Jul 2015 #29
"the difficulty of getting a job as a felon." passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #93
Rhymes with strangulation. GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #37
And now Clinton's Letter To The United Daughters Of The Confederacy? Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #18
Thanks Thespian2 Jul 2015 #31
Hillary and Bill Clinton's behavior in 2008 was deplorable. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #21
I wasn't paying a whole lot of attention, but SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #86
Tried to tell many people this, but DU has blinders on. They simply ignore how devastating Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #25
NAFTA, MFN-China, H-1b visas HFRN Jul 2015 #36
Yup. He did something Ronnie Raygun couldn't accomplish d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #66
yup, he created a 'service economy' - then immediatly insourced (H-1b visa) and outsourced it to HFRN Jul 2015 #70
DOMA, DADT Doctor_J Jul 2015 #89
DADT was a bridge policy HFRN Jul 2015 #90
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #75
K & R Thespian2 Jul 2015 #27
What a bunch of "told you so's" Suziq Jul 2015 #30
I don't think these are told you so statements. A lot of us fell for them twice. And some of us jwirr Jul 2015 #63
Remember Willie Horton? ericson00 Jul 2015 #32
Stop talking reality on DU! Metric System Jul 2015 #65
I thought talking unreality ericson00 Jul 2015 #79
article 'The Overcriminalization of America' HFRN Jul 2015 #38
How much money sulphurdunn Jul 2015 #41
'The Clintons are counting on the forgiving nature of Black people...' HFRN Jul 2015 #42
Pres. Clinton pardoned his own cocaine-sniffing brother. Divernan Jul 2015 #44
Perhaps he'll promise pardons galore if his wife hughee99 Jul 2015 #50
His giving George W Bush credence and legitimacy revolted me Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #46
No kidding. RiverLover Jul 2015 #51
Just the thought of him Plucketeer Jul 2015 #59
Conservative Democrats masquerading as liberals. jalan48 Jul 2015 #47
Yep. RiverLover Jul 2015 #48
LOL jalan48 Jul 2015 #54
Yep. haikugal Jul 2015 #83
This. kath Jul 2015 #56
In the U.S. as in North Korea, whole families also suffer by association w/ criminals Divernan Jul 2015 #49
K&R SamKnause Jul 2015 #52
I really wish the supporters of Sanders would stop attacking the Clintons. Galraedia Jul 2015 #60
I explained what was going on when this all first started. It was Bernie fans attacking Hillary stevenleser Jul 2015 #62
Shh...Facts and history don't matter. Metric System Jul 2015 #64
Shhh....Conservatives' spin of facts & history isn't appreciated here. /nt RiverLover Jul 2015 #68
Many on the left during that time knew better. It wasn't the right thing then, nor now. RiverLover Jul 2015 #67
That still didn't change the tough-on-crime rhetoric of the 1990s or public opinion. Galraedia Jul 2015 #71
RIght. One can't blame a weathervane for the actions of the wind. delrem Jul 2015 #81
That's all they got. Beacool Jul 2015 #100
I'm not real anxious to forgive and forget on that either. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #69
Yes, a first lady, senator and SOS should just spit at people she doesn't agree with......... Beacool Jul 2015 #101
It's my signature line Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #102
That's what it takes to be a politician and a diplomat. Beacool Jul 2015 #105
Forgive and forget: LWolf Jul 2015 #73
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #74
It's a adolescent tactic and they all do it. Phlem Jul 2015 #76
"Not good enough"? Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #78
He's got a lot more to apologize for than that ibegurpard Jul 2015 #91
+1 n/t Oilwellian Jul 2015 #94
Nor should it be. Hillary is going to have a Minority problem once people learn sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #95
No, she won't. Beacool Jul 2015 #98
Sad to see Dems eat their own uwep Jul 2015 #96
Sad to see Democratic leaders enacting republican policies. Over & over. /nt RiverLover Jul 2015 #97
Tune them out. Beacool Jul 2015 #99
because DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #103
And minorities will vote for her. Beacool Jul 2015 #106
Some will DonCoquixote Jul 2015 #111
Hang in there, in time, things will settle down around here oasis Jul 2015 #110
Do you remember what prompted that change to the law? napi21 Jul 2015 #104
All those spoiled rich party girls doing primo lines in the bathroom... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #108
Not ONLY THAT. White guys convicted of holding or selling cocain were napi21 Jul 2015 #112
That 3 strikes was often waved for white kids. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #113
Sorry. That part I didn't know. I assume it was waved in the cases of the "connected ones" napi21 Jul 2015 #114
KnR chknltl Jul 2015 #107
The Clinton campaign is afraid in other words. Fearless Jul 2015 #109
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