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Showing Original Post only (View all)Kos: A Black Man's take on NN/BLM dustup: "Black Folks No on Bernie? Really?" [View all]
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Black Folks No on Bernie? Really?JUL 10, 2015 * Daily Kos * by liberalminded
I find it disturbing that a few ostensibly Black diarists/commenters have said that "Black people don't like Bernie" and that Hillary will be the candidate of Black voters.
As a Black man, I have to say that's preposterous.
Bernie has issues on race, don't get me wrong. He should be much more out front about Black Lives Matter and police brutality, and should acknowledge that America's imperial wars abroad disproportionately affect Black communities. His staff should have more Black people, and he certainly could have done more in the Senate to reach out to Black communities.
But to act like Hillary is somehow better on race than Bernie is absolutely ridiculous--willfully ignorant of the reality of her tenure at the State Department, her votes in the US Senate, and her role in her husband's administration. For any thinking Black person to say Hillary is better for Black folks than Bernie is to be "out of their minds," to quote Malcolm. While NAFTA disproportionately affected Black communities, I have limited time here and so will focus on the most egregious example: welfare reform.
If you read the awfully-written "It Takes A Village" you will see that at every moment Hillary is repeating the argumentative tropes in favor of welfare reform. And I am not exaggerating to say that TANF was the greatest legislative assault on Black people in the modern era.
Who led the charge, intellectually? Charles Murray. Who defended Losing Ground and Murray? Bill Clinton, saying "He did the country a great service." In case some of the pro-Hillary commenters don't remember, Charles Murray wrote The Bell Curve, which was the greatest pop culture assault on Black life since Birth of a Nation.
The climate during welfare reform was racist to the core. Welfare recipients were read as Black women stealing government benefits--a trope developed by Murray and Reagan.
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Kos: A Black Man's take on NN/BLM dustup: "Black Folks No on Bernie? Really?" [View all]
99th_Monkey
Jul 2015
OP
It's a punitive, disgusting law. There's not any provision for training, just time out after 5 yrs
PatrickforO
Jul 2015
#76
Hi, Dork! I suspect you've heard of the new Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act
PatrickforO
Jul 2015
#97
Yes. "For any thinking Black person to say Hillary is better for Black folks than Bernie is
Zorra
Jul 2015
#3
I have researched it and cannot find where he actually said that "quote" ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#26
America's entire Foreign policy is racist. Just like our old Imperial allies.
sabrina 1
Jul 2015
#238
Yes ... though having a TV show does amplify that minority opinion. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#161
I am involved, deeply, in community service that puts me in close contact with Black folks ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#37
Congratulations!!! You win the Anonymous Internet Activist of the Year, DU Edition...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#132
And the "rules for an online forum" don't dictate discernible reality. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#43
I know that polling data suggests that Hillary has a wide lead so far over Bernie with AA,
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jul 2015
#39
According to the polls Donald Trump is the republican front runner-what does that say about polls?
luvspeas
Jul 2015
#203
Sure. But you have not explained why polls mean the OP should not post what he or she wants to post
merrily
Jul 2015
#171
Did. It's not responsive to my question and also an unwarranted slur on the OP. See Post # 188.
merrily
Jul 2015
#189
Good question. There is not. White people (I am one, so I can say this) have a pretty wide
PatrickforO
Jul 2015
#93
It's like the PUMA crowd realized they couldn't wave the sexism card around
Exultant Democracy
Jul 2015
#55
Wouldn't that be racism that dividing poor whites from poor Blacks? ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#134
And not the acknowledgment that there are racial issues that CAN be solved by economic ones?
zeemike
Jul 2015
#148
"Some issues are not about economics, some are issues of race." < That's what plantation owners and
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#61
They get pulled over by police more often, they're more likely to get arrested
gollygee
Jul 2015
#75
If you put your blinders on and only look at that incident, conventiently, poof, it's all
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#86
If you say so. btw - repeating doesn't make you any more compelling, lol. Take care. n/t
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#91
Not willful ignorance if the author has nothing useful or new, or particularly accurate. Just good
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#94
What color and political party were the people turning over school buses when I was
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#147
Well ... If he just had economic parity with his white neighbors ... n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#163
Obviously spoken by someone who has never driven a BMW while black. Switched to a prius
Exultant Democracy
Jul 2015
#115
'However, then I read your posts in this thread and had to laugh.I find it absolutely incredible
Joe Chi Minh
Jul 2015
#242
No shit, good question. We were told the same thing by Clinton supporters in 2007
Exultant Democracy
Jul 2015
#28
You are the one claiming to be speak for "mainstream African Americans", not me.
99th_Monkey
Jul 2015
#58
"So, as a Person of Color ... Please stop!" is not trying to silence anyone?
Exultant Democracy
Jul 2015
#59
No! To be clear, I have no problem with Black folks that support Bernie, and/or hate HRC ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#173
I do not support HRC ... I have said, time and again, I am undecided ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#174
Yes our blackness as a condition of approval dependent on correct thought.
Exultant Democracy
Jul 2015
#33
I have two questions, but since other people beat me to the first one, here's the second
Scootaloo
Jul 2015
#87
I would note that some of the most angry tweets I've seen about Bernie online from black tweeters
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jul 2015
#34
I don't read every twitter account of every black person out there.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jul 2015
#108
Neither do I. I'm just giving one set of reasons people assume Clinton support.
jeff47
Jul 2015
#110
Yep. I learned a long time ago that as much as people like Ben Carson or CLARENCE
randys1
Jul 2015
#212
Can't respond to the hidden post so I thought I'd throw it out there.
beam me up scottie
Jul 2015
#107
This is OT, but that is one of the funniest names on DU as far as I'm concerned.
Ed Suspicious
Jul 2015
#155
Sounds like some in the media are trying to drive wedges between Bernie and African-American voters
forest444
Jul 2015
#100
Oh come on. Politics is real. Dirty politics is absolutely real. Follow the money, mang.
Ed Suspicious
Jul 2015
#156
I agree with much of what you say, yet Bernie has NOTHING to apologize for on civil rights. Nothing.
99th_Monkey
Jul 2015
#151
Thank you. Considering that most of the screeching is coming from the same cast of characters
corkhead
Jul 2015
#176
We white people need to know our history, accept reality, and work hard to fix the system
daybranch
Jul 2015
#167
Forget about that, black man. Let's talk about her, her husband, and their cheerleaders' racist
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2015
#169
Of course I think it's despicable, but Native Americans must realize that other minority
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2015
#241
Imagine the extent of the damage she could inflict on the poor, elderly, and handicapped as POTUS.
Zorra
Jul 2015
#255
Did he/his team not think that his campaign would extend beyond Vermont ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#213
Thank you. I will ... Well, actually I am watching what is happening. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#254
What on Earth do I find about the Senator's current positions that run counter to
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#258
I just find this whole "If you think THIS Democrat candidate hates black people, check out this..."
LiberalLovinLug
Jul 2015
#216