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2016 Postmortem

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gobears10

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Sun Jul 19, 2015, 06:19 PM Jul 2015

Hillary Clinton has a pathetic record on race-related issues [View all]

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HRC on the 1994 Crime Bill:

"We need more police, we need more and tougher prison sentences for repeat offenders. The three strikes and you’re out for violent offenders has to be part of the plan. We need more prisons to keep violent offenders for as long as it takes to keep them off the streets."

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2015/04/30/why-hillary-clinton-lacks-credibility-on-criminal-justice-reform/


HRC on Bill Clinton's 1996 Welfare Reform:

Many of the advocates who knew Mrs. Clinton as a champion for the poor and working-class women felt betrayed in 1996 when, as first lady, she supported Mr. Clinton’s overhaul of the welfare system, which gave states more power to remove people from welfare rolls and pledged to cut federal spending on assistance for the poor by nearly $55 billion over six years...

Mrs. Clinton expressed no misgivings about the 1996 legislation, saying that it was a needed — and enormously successful — first step toward making poor families self-sufficient.

“Welfare should have been a temporary way station for people who needed immediate assistance,” she said. “It should not be considered an anti-poverty program. It simply did not work.”

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/11/us/politics/11welfare.html?pagewanted=print

However, welfare reform was a resounding failure, especially when mixed with Bill Clinton's War on Drugs. It marginalized single mothers of color who are low-income. Hillary Clinton was defending welfare reform in her 2008 run for POTUS.

Committing a drug crime was supposed to permanently ban a person from food stamps and welfare benefits under a little-discussed provision of the Clinton-Gingrich reforms...

The War on Drugs and the War on Poverty aren’t easily mixed. Making it harder to eat and pay rent won’t help someone busted for pot possession or small-time cocaine sales to recover economically and socially from years in prison. The bans ensure that every discriminatory effect of the drug war gets amplified economically even after the criminal justice system is done with a person. Because women are the primary recipients of both assistance programs, and women of color are more likely to get caught up in the racial disparities of the criminal justice system, the bans have ended up disproportionately affecting women of color and their children — and doing next to nothing to combat either drugs or poverty.

Source: http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/cc_A%20Lifetime%20of%20Punishment.pdf


HRC on The War on Drugs:
Hillary Clinton, while a U.S. Senator, opposed addressing the discrepancy in sentencing for using power cocaine vs crack cocaine, one fueling racial disparities in the criminal justice system.

Mrs. Clinton opposed a moderate proposal by the United States Sentencing Commission that would have retroactively reduced the draconian penalties for possession of crack cocaine — a proposal supported by Mr. Obama, and by liberal as well as conservative judges.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/01/opinion/01rosen.html


HRC's "Tough-On-Crime" Policies Through The Years:

1996: In her book, “It Takes a Village,” Clinton again endorses the crime bill, and argues in favor of “zero-tolerance” policies for kids who break the rules at school.

2000: Clinton suggests that the death penalty has her “unenthusiastic support."

(Let's not forget than in application, the death penalty has affected people of color disproportionately.)

2007: Clinton votes “Yes” to reinstate her husband’s COPS initiative, a program for putting hundreds of thousands more police officers on the streets, to full $1.15 billion funding. She also co-sponsors the COPS Improvement Act, which would direct grant money toward the hiring of more anti-terror, anti-gang, and school-based police officers.

2007-2008: Clinton was for medical research into the benefits of marijuana, but not decriminalization.

2008: Clinton's campaign team plays the “soft on crime” card against Barack Obama. Her aides suggest to ABC News that candidate Obama's positions on criminal justice – including his opposition to mandatory-minimum sentences – are too liberal and out-of-touch with mainstream views.

2008: Hillary Clinton's campaign's relied on code words and innuendo seemingly designed to frame Barack Obama's race as problematic, saying Obama was characterized by the Clinton campaign and its prominent supporters as anti-white due to his association with Reverend Jeremiah Wright, as able to attract only black votes, as anti-patriotic, a drug user, possibly a drug seller, and married to an angry, ungrateful black woman. Clinton's campaign engages in "dog-whistle politics" to appeal to subtle and blatant anti-black racism among working class whites.

2014: Later in the year, Clinton labeled marijuana a "gateway drug" where there "can't be a total absence of law enforcement."

2015: Clinton says "All Lives Matter" instead of "Black Lives Matter" at a historical black church. She hasn't apologized or publicly expressed her regret for her views.

Source: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/05/01/a-more-or-less-definitive-guide-to-hillary-clinton-s-record-on-law-and-order
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Third-Way is all about smoke and mirrors. eom NorthCarolina Jul 2015 #1
This point cannot be made more often or more convincingly. Excellent post. leveymg Jul 2015 #2
How is it that when African Americans raise the issue of candidates speaking to BainsBane Jul 2015 #23
good point azurnoir Jul 2015 #46
He has said it many times BainsBane Jul 2015 #47
first off I didn't have to search for anything I just clicked the links you provided azurnoir Jul 2015 #48
I find your opinion offensive BainsBane Jul 2015 #61
so it seems you're insinuating that I am 1. racist 2. a closet republican/conservative? azurnoir Jul 2015 #62
No. I am not BainsBane Jul 2015 #64
there's another poll that tells a different story about who supports who azurnoir Jul 2015 #63
Gallup vs. PPP BainsBane Jul 2015 #65
No matter how deplorable her record... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #3
didn't Sanders vote for the crime bill ? JI7 Jul 2015 #4
Sanders made a mistake... gobears10 Jul 2015 #6
the speech you linked to dsc Jul 2015 #11
his overall record... gobears10 Jul 2015 #14
Hillary didn't vote for the 1994 crime bill. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #19
You forgot about being the candidate of "hardworking people, white people" n/t eridani Jul 2015 #5
I see that as a gaffe, attempting to speak to her audience (and blundering). Maedhros Jul 2015 #10
California three-strikesn law Proposition 184 passed by 71.8% BlueStateLib Jul 2015 #33
Apparently 71.8% of Californians are cruel. [n/t] Maedhros Jul 2015 #58
WTF? 20 years ago? Gman Jul 2015 #7
how about 7 years ago? gobears10 Jul 2015 #8
I completely agree with you, and I think it's a big reason why Bernie is being so stillwaiting Jul 2015 #9
+1 Zorra Jul 2015 #18
+1 azurnoir Jul 2015 #44
Lampedusa and the Aguán Valley are filling with people of lower albedo suffering from her policies MisterP Jul 2015 #12
More evidence of dog-whistle politics by HRC in 2008 gobears10 Jul 2015 #13
Sanders has never done dog whistles. Not on race. Not on anything else eridani Jul 2015 #16
Beg to differ Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #21
Does Chicago have a serious gang violence problem? 6chars Jul 2015 #29
No gangsters in Chicago. Just your normal every day tax-evading working stiffs Scootaloo Jul 2015 #30
It's a euphemism for Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #56
you seem to have very fine tuned hearing kudo's azurnoir Jul 2015 #45
They want to promote the meme the social justice is incompatable with ethnic and gender equality betterdemsonly Jul 2015 #15
The DLC group are still hostile to both Hydra Jul 2015 #27
Yes, her record on race-related issues is horrible. kath Jul 2015 #17
Did Sanders have a vote on the crime bill? nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #20
I'm not going to defend those statements BainsBane Jul 2015 #22
I didn't read past the first quote Sheepshank Jul 2015 #24
They are all old statements BainsBane Jul 2015 #26
Did she ever apologize to BLM for her insensitive remark right after sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #25
Nope. HappyPlace Jul 2015 #54
Yes, which is why I go to the real media for news and tend to ignore sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #57
And yet HRC has the overwhelming support ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #28
I'd be interested to know if you agree with her record ibegurpard Jul 2015 #32
Another non-sequitar from you tonight, my friend. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #35
OP linked specifics of her record ibegurpard Jul 2015 #36
I asked a VERY specific question of the OP. NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #37
I asked a very specific question of you ibegurpard Jul 2015 #39
If I thought the points raised in the OP ... NanceGreggs Jul 2015 #42
Yeah I figured ibegurpard Jul 2015 #43
Thankfully, she's not running on that platform now BainsBane Jul 2015 #38
Well i guess that piece of legislation is a wash then ibegurpard Jul 2015 #40
You're the first person who has even acknowledged it BainsBane Jul 2015 #41
Yes, this record sucks. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #31
Bernie voted for that crime bill BainsBane Jul 2015 #34
Bad vote by Bernie. Once. Hillary seems to have a much worse record on this issue, though. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #60
So you're saying minority voters are too STUPID to vote in their best interest? brooklynite Jul 2015 #49
No that's what YOU'RE saying it's saying ibegurpard Jul 2015 #50
Another clueless,tone deaf post from a Bernie supporter.nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #51
Is this a record you'd like to defend? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #52
A response with no substance. What a surprise. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #59
Clintons are master triangulators nt HFRN Jul 2015 #53
W/o the COPS initiative Historic NY Jul 2015 #55
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