Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: "More Fun With Bill & Hill" or, w/friends like Bill, who needs enemies? Explosive piece. [View all]Divernan
(15,480 posts)12. You're wrong. Bill agreed w/McCain; said Obama risks looking like a "total fool"
Hey, you may not like what Bruni has to say, or his opinions, but the facts he refers to are documented. So what FACTS are you claiming are "made up shit"? One article he linked to included the further powerful facts, that Obama found Bill Clinton so impossible to stomach that he couldn't even stand to finish 18 holes of golf with Clinton and Obama included aides at what had been planned as a private dinner to talk politics with Clinton, and kept the conversation topic to everyone's children.
Bill Clinton splits with President Obama on Syria
By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 6/12/13 6:11 PM EDT Updated: 6/13/13 8:13 AM EDT
Bill Clinton told Sen. John McCain he agrees that President Barack Obama should act more forcefully to support anti-Assad rebels in Syria, saying the American public elects presidents and members of Congress to see down the road and to win.
At another point during a closed-press event Tuesday, Clinton implied that Obama or any president risks looking like a total fool if they listen too closely to opinion polls and act too cautiously. He used his own decisions on Kosovo and Bosnia as a point of reference.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/bill-clinton-splits-with-obama-on-syria-92683.html#ixzz2kvWab5uq
And as to Obama's distaste for Bill Clinton, the OP link provides a link to this article, discussing an about to be published book that the New York Times obtained from people in the publishing industry.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/us/politics/book-details-consideration-of-replacing-biden-on-2012-ticket.html
Even after Mr. Obama named Mrs. Clinton as secretary of state, seemingly binding the wounds from their hard-fought 2008 primary campaign, the book says, he still could barely endure spending much time with the often-exhausting Bill Clinton. Mr. Obama rarely contacted his Democratic predecessor in the first years after taking office, but after the midterm losses for his party, the incumbent and his inner circle realized that they needed the still-popular Mr. Clinton.
When the two of them golfed together in September, 2011, an effort aides hoped would bring them closer, they did not even finish 18 holes. Mr. Obama succinctly expressed his view of Mr. Clinton to an aide after coming off the course at Andrews Air Force Base. Obama grimaced and replied, I like him ... in doses, the authors write.
Earlier in the year, Clinton held Obama captive in the presidential limo outside a fund-raiser at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York, the authors write, grabbing Mr. Obamas hand as he reached for the door. Instead of having a one-on-one meal together that night, as was planned, Mr. Obama, unable to handle any more undiluted Clinton, invited aides from both of their staffs to join the dinner and talked to them about their children, rather than talking about politics with his predecessor.
And Mr. Clintons praise, in the spring of last year, of Mr. Romneys business record as sterling infuriated top Obama advisers and even prompted Mrs. Clinton to tell her aides that Bill cant do that again.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
40 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
"More Fun With Bill & Hill" or, w/friends like Bill, who needs enemies? Explosive piece. [View all]
Divernan
Nov 2013
OP
The only thing Bill cares about is Bill. The Clintons need to just go away.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2013
#32
In a utopian world, you'd be right. Unfortunately Citizens United tilts the playing field.
Divernan
Nov 2013
#7
How can you forget the first half of 2008 - where many on this very site and Daily Kos
karynnj
Nov 2013
#15
You're wrong. Bill agreed w/McCain; said Obama risks looking like a "total fool"
Divernan
Nov 2013
#12
His bad behavior has humiliated her continually. She has stayed strong, consistent, courageous
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#20
Leaving a lying, cheating, adulterous, lecherous spouse is NOT to "cut and run"
Divernan
Nov 2013
#21
I can see you don't agree. A degree in women's studies is nice...I took a few classes back in the
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#24
My point is that it took 3 years..she was literally under investigation and the press numerous times
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#25
You're extremely confused or devious, nobody said Bill Clinton didn't have the right to speak
CreekDog
Nov 2013
#28
Ok, then you confirm that you are completely lost, since I didn't say anything about Bill Clinton
CreekDog
Nov 2013
#35
Yes, Bill has the right to speak. And we have the right to tell him to STFU.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Nov 2013
#36