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Sun Nov 17, 2013, 01:23 PM

12. You're wrong. Bill agreed w/McCain; said Obama risks looking like a "total fool"

Hey, you may not like what Bruni has to say, or his opinions, but the facts he refers to are documented. So what FACTS are you claiming are "made up shit"? One article he linked to included the further powerful facts, that Obama found Bill Clinton so impossible to stomach that he couldn't even stand to finish 18 holes of golf with Clinton and Obama included aides at what had been planned as a private dinner to talk politics with Clinton, and kept the conversation topic to everyone's children.

Bill Clinton splits with President Obama on Syria
By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 6/12/13 6:11 PM EDT Updated: 6/13/13 8:13 AM EDT

Bill Clinton told Sen. John McCain he agrees that President Barack Obama should act more forcefully to support anti-Assad rebels in Syria, saying the American public elects presidents and members of Congress “to see down the road” and “to win.”

At another point during a closed-press event Tuesday, Clinton implied that Obama or any president risks looking like “a total fool” if they listen too closely to opinion polls and act too cautiously. He used his own decisions on Kosovo and Bosnia as a point of reference.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/bill-clinton-splits-with-obama-on-syria-92683.html#ixzz2kvWab5uq

And as to Obama's distaste for Bill Clinton, the OP link provides a link to this article, discussing an about to be published book that the New York Times obtained from people in the publishing industry.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/us/politics/book-details-consideration-of-replacing-biden-on-2012-ticket.html

Even after Mr. Obama named Mrs. Clinton as secretary of state, seemingly binding the wounds from their hard-fought 2008 primary campaign, the book says, he still could barely endure spending much time with the often-exhausting Bill Clinton. Mr. Obama rarely contacted his Democratic predecessor in the first years after taking office, but after the midterm losses for his party, the incumbent and his inner circle realized that they needed the still-popular Mr. Clinton.

When the two of them golfed together in September, 2011, an effort aides hoped would bring them closer, they did not even finish 18 holes. Mr. Obama succinctly expressed his view of Mr. Clinton to an aide after coming off the course at Andrews Air Force Base. “Obama grimaced and replied, ‘I like him ... in doses,’ ” the authors write.

Earlier in the year, “Clinton held Obama captive in the presidential limo” outside a fund-raiser at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York, the authors write, grabbing Mr. Obama’s hand as he reached for the door. Instead of having a one-on-one meal together that night, as was planned, Mr. Obama, unable to “handle any more undiluted Clinton,” invited aides from both of their staffs to join the dinner and talked to them about their children, rather than talking about politics with his predecessor.

And Mr. Clinton’s praise, in the spring of last year, of Mr. Romney’s business record as “sterling” infuriated top Obama advisers and even prompted Mrs. Clinton to tell her aides that “Bill can’t do that again.”



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