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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
12. You're wrong. Bill agreed w/McCain; said Obama risks looking like a "total fool"
Sun Nov 17, 2013, 02:23 PM
Nov 2013

Hey, you may not like what Bruni has to say, or his opinions, but the facts he refers to are documented. So what FACTS are you claiming are "made up shit"? One article he linked to included the further powerful facts, that Obama found Bill Clinton so impossible to stomach that he couldn't even stand to finish 18 holes of golf with Clinton and Obama included aides at what had been planned as a private dinner to talk politics with Clinton, and kept the conversation topic to everyone's children.

Bill Clinton splits with President Obama on Syria
By MAGGIE HABERMAN | 6/12/13 6:11 PM EDT Updated: 6/13/13 8:13 AM EDT

Bill Clinton told Sen. John McCain he agrees that President Barack Obama should act more forcefully to support anti-Assad rebels in Syria, saying the American public elects presidents and members of Congress “to see down the road” and “to win.”

At another point during a closed-press event Tuesday, Clinton implied that Obama or any president risks looking like “a total fool” if they listen too closely to opinion polls and act too cautiously. He used his own decisions on Kosovo and Bosnia as a point of reference.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/bill-clinton-splits-with-obama-on-syria-92683.html#ixzz2kvWab5uq

And as to Obama's distaste for Bill Clinton, the OP link provides a link to this article, discussing an about to be published book that the New York Times obtained from people in the publishing industry.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/01/us/politics/book-details-consideration-of-replacing-biden-on-2012-ticket.html

Even after Mr. Obama named Mrs. Clinton as secretary of state, seemingly binding the wounds from their hard-fought 2008 primary campaign, the book says, he still could barely endure spending much time with the often-exhausting Bill Clinton. Mr. Obama rarely contacted his Democratic predecessor in the first years after taking office, but after the midterm losses for his party, the incumbent and his inner circle realized that they needed the still-popular Mr. Clinton.

When the two of them golfed together in September, 2011, an effort aides hoped would bring them closer, they did not even finish 18 holes. Mr. Obama succinctly expressed his view of Mr. Clinton to an aide after coming off the course at Andrews Air Force Base. “Obama grimaced and replied, ‘I like him ... in doses,’ ” the authors write.

Earlier in the year, “Clinton held Obama captive in the presidential limo” outside a fund-raiser at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York, the authors write, grabbing Mr. Obama’s hand as he reached for the door. Instead of having a one-on-one meal together that night, as was planned, Mr. Obama, unable to “handle any more undiluted Clinton,” invited aides from both of their staffs to join the dinner and talked to them about their children, rather than talking about politics with his predecessor.

And Mr. Clinton’s praise, in the spring of last year, of Mr. Romney’s business record as “sterling” infuriated top Obama advisers and even prompted Mrs. Clinton to tell her aides that “Bill can’t do that again.”



I don't think anyone cares about Hillary's or Warren's "sizzle"... polichick Nov 2013 #1
Um, you're dodging the issue of Bill's interference with Obama. Divernan Nov 2013 #2
Just highlighting the part I care about... polichick Nov 2013 #3
The only thing Bill cares about is Bill. The Clintons need to just go away. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #32
The marketers will care ... GeorgeGist Nov 2013 #4
I'd like to think the people have had enough of the marketers... polichick Nov 2013 #5
In a utopian world, you'd be right. Unfortunately Citizens United tilts the playing field. Divernan Nov 2013 #7
People didn't elect Romney - and more and more voters understand that... polichick Nov 2013 #10
Interesting. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #6
Bill might just fuck Hillary's chances up. LuvNewcastle Nov 2013 #8
How can you forget the first half of 2008 - where many on this very site and Daily Kos karynnj Nov 2013 #15
Might? Hillary is toast. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #33
No question, but Hillary hasn't helped her cause either. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #40
Bill has always been the downside to LibGranny Nov 2013 #9
Let's remember who Bruni is dsc Nov 2013 #11
You're wrong. Bill agreed w/McCain; said Obama risks looking like a "total fool" Divernan Nov 2013 #12
the whole article is about clinton's mind dsc Nov 2013 #19
Bruni is a distinuished, award winning journalist, thank you very much! Divernan Nov 2013 #13
I am not saying everything he has ever done is bad dsc Nov 2013 #18
If he was traveling with Bush, he likely was NOT the NYT reporter reporting karynnj Nov 2013 #16
He did cover Gore for a week dsc Nov 2013 #17
The media loves the drama. Beacool Nov 2013 #14
His bad behavior has humiliated her continually. She has stayed strong, consistent, courageous libdem4life Nov 2013 #20
Leaving a lying, cheating, adulterous, lecherous spouse is NOT to "cut and run" Divernan Nov 2013 #21
Every person needs to decide for themselves how to handle their marriage. Beacool Nov 2013 #23
Be honest, Hillary is an opportunist, simple as that. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #34
That's how much you know her. Beacool Nov 2013 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #38
Never said Hillary didn't love Bill and what he brings to the table. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #39
I can see you don't agree. A degree in women's studies is nice...I took a few classes back in the libdem4life Nov 2013 #24
Wait a minute, there's zero proof that Hillary and Foster had an affair. Beacool Nov 2013 #22
My point is that it took 3 years..she was literally under investigation and the press numerous times libdem4life Nov 2013 #25
bill is pissed because he could`t get his healthcare plan passed. madrchsod Nov 2013 #26
BS. Clinton has as much right to speak his mind as anyone else. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #27
You're extremely confused or devious, nobody said Bill Clinton didn't have the right to speak CreekDog Nov 2013 #28
Is he supposed to read from a script? Skip Intro Nov 2013 #29
again confused? CreekDog Nov 2013 #30
Bill Clinton didn't break a promise. He commented on a broken promise. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #31
Ok, then you confirm that you are completely lost, since I didn't say anything about Bill Clinton CreekDog Nov 2013 #35
Yes, Bill has the right to speak. And we have the right to tell him to STFU. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2013 #36
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