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2016 Postmortem

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1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
Sat Apr 6, 2013, 05:33 PM Apr 2013

Can we get honest here ... [View all]

for just a moment? Those decrying the this Chain CPI thing are self-interested folks, hiding behind the elderly, the poor, the disabled and/or veterans.

This "concern" for the poor and elderly and disabled and veterans is a cannard, because those that will be affected WILL NOT be the elderly or the poor or veterans or the disabled; but those (non-poor, non-disabled, non-elderly, non-veterans) folks like me ... with (or planning on) some form of retirement income that is less than what we would like to have to live on.

But I understand the reason for the cannard ... it plays a lot better than "I want my SS with as much in COLAs as their willing to offer because I paid into it ... it's mine."

The fact is, from the beginning, every suggestion of instituting a CCPI has included statement indicating that these most vulnerable groups will be exempted from the change.

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Can we get honest here ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 OP
Thank you for the courage in saying what so many know is true graham4anything Apr 2013 #1
Yep. Hoyt Apr 2013 #2
You are being too reasonable... dkf Apr 2013 #3
Unfair criticism Trajan Apr 2013 #4
Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #7
Fine, be honest. How does SS contribute to the "debt crisis"? Autumn Apr 2013 #5
It doesn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #9
Everything I have read does not support Autumn Apr 2013 #13
Again ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #20
You may trust the administration on this, I don't. Here's a gentle reminder from Obama in 2008 Autumn Apr 2013 #22
That is the Man I voted for ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #25
"No one knows what the CCPI formula will look like" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2013 #82
It is exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #87
"actual household spending"? Are you counting health care costs for seniors? CTyankee Apr 2013 #101
I am against chained CPI...I think it is a rotten idea alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #6
I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #12
People on the cusp will be impacted. tblue Apr 2013 #8
Tell me ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #14
Good point. rucky Apr 2013 #73
Please cite proof for your statement. enlightenment Apr 2013 #10
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #17
Okay - enlightenment Apr 2013 #21
Everything posted on this subject ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #26
Come on, now! enlightenment Apr 2013 #31
And ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #41
I never said I wasn't - enlightenment Apr 2013 #56
Does not matter, the reasons for the outcry.... busterbrown Apr 2013 #11
Tell me ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #18
SS has NOTHING to do with the DEFICIT. Closing "loopholes" to increase effective tax rates does. Vincardog Apr 2013 #28
Except ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #37
The FACT that SS can't have any effect by LAW does matter. There is no DEBATE about facts, Vincardog Apr 2013 #40
If you ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #42
WTF does that have anything to do with REALITY? If you and a friend are planning dinner and Vincardog Apr 2013 #45
I'm sorry you missed the relevance ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #50
I'm sorry you missed the relevance … When one party refuses to deal with objective REALITY Vincardog Apr 2013 #57
Then please explain ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #60
Why there are on-going debates and very little governing? Because while we watch the "Debates" Vincardog Apr 2013 #62
You are absolutely correct. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #116
Who Knows....? busterbrown Apr 2013 #30
Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #39
Hey, I've paid into it for a lot of years. I won't be exempted from it. Bake Apr 2013 #15
Fine ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #19
And I voted in 2010. For DEMOCRATS. Bake Apr 2013 #23
With all due respect ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #29
Absolutely Bake Apr 2013 #32
I completely agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #35
I've paid for it for years too, since I was 13 BainsBane Apr 2015 #125
I suspect you will ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #127
What are the details of these exemptions? You seem to be making assertions that are impossible. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #16
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #24
No, the statement from the WH said 'the most vulerable' which is the opposite of specified groups. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #36
Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #44
So no evidence, as expected. Because you are talking out your ear. Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #52
No ... just tired of arguing ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #59
You have not made any points, and now you are calling names in an attempt to cover your lack of Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #68
Are you saying the President's proposal wouldn't cut benefits for regular folks? limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #27
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #33
But that is not what you were ranting about in the OP. Your own words: Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #38
Smells like horse shit to me Autumn Apr 2013 #43
Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #47
Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #46
Bullshit. GeorgeGist Apr 2013 #34
Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #48
doubtful grantcart Apr 2013 #49
Please go on ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #54
I found the following DU post helpful: femmocrat Apr 2013 #51
I saw the post ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #61
Yeah, you just don't give a shit. Marr Apr 2013 #71
Then why waste your time responding to me? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #90
Thanks. elleng Apr 2013 #53
It's in a person's interest to want what they feel they deserve. I don't know anyone who doesn't southernyankeebelle Apr 2013 #55
Agreed n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #63
... abelenkpe Apr 2013 #77
What a strange post Doctor_J Apr 2013 #58
+1000 abelenkpe Apr 2013 #76
Complete bullshit. bowens43 Apr 2013 #64
Yes ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #65
We care about you too daybranch Apr 2013 #66
Drip, drip, drip ... blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #67
And tied to a tax increase for the rich treestar Apr 2013 #69
Whatever they're paying you, it's too much. Marr Apr 2013 #70
I agree Skittles Apr 2013 #74
I'm not getting paid ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #89
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ L0oniX Apr 2013 #105
"IMPEACHMENT!!111" Cha Apr 2013 #72
75 responses and I'm only the 8th Rec Hekate Apr 2013 #75
Let's see ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #91
Don't feel like the Lone Ranger there... Hekate Apr 2013 #95
The crazy thing is that no absolute specifics have been outlined. StrongBad Apr 2013 #123
I'd accept Chained CPI in a heart-beat in exchange for Universal Pre-K (day-care). nt patrice Apr 2013 #78
^And, no, I don't have any grandkids.^ patrice Apr 2013 #80
yes, let's make the elderly and disabled suffer more. cali Apr 2013 #84
We're bargaining with Boner though, not someone who would vote for treestar Apr 2013 #102
I'm finding it quite interesting that my Rep. Senators are against Chained CPI. At this point, I'm patrice Apr 2013 #79
canard SwampG8r Apr 2013 #81
what repulsive bullshit. cali Apr 2013 #83
+10000 Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #85
Answer "Yes" or "No" ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #92
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ L0oniX Apr 2013 #104
Let me see if I get this straight. In order to protect the poor, we can't Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #86
That is not what I have said ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #93
Righhht... Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #97
Now read the rest of what I wrote ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #98
Yes I did, and a more horrendous bunch of BS I havent seen. It's rather Freeper. Katashi_itto Apr 2013 #99
Sorry I didn't see this thread sooner. Comrade_McKenzie Apr 2013 #88
By whom? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #94
The usual suspects here Hekate Apr 2013 #96
If you don't like the policy (and I'm not really going to argue in favor of it either), then fine Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2013 #100
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #106
I'm listening to you, and I appreciate your thoughtfulness appacom Apr 2013 #107
Watch Heads Explode ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #111
"Oh yeah" what? Tell us *exactly* what's different. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #117
"self-interested folks, hiding behind the elderly, the poor" Sociopath honesty? L0oniX Apr 2013 #103
Forget the fucking self-interest for a second, please. Orsino Apr 2013 #108
In the 60's, I listened to Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #109
I lived it ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #110
You didn't hear people saying that Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #112
No, I didn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #113
Must have lived in a very Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #114
I'm sad to see this post from you Marrah_G Apr 2013 #115
Sorry to disappoint ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #120
Oh bullshit MFrohike Apr 2013 #118
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #121
Damn MFrohike Apr 2013 #124
Many seniors vote for Republicans and against their best interests. Maybe those seniors will finally Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2013 #119
Hopefully n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2013 #122
You may believe it, but that doesn't make it honest.... daleanime Apr 2015 #126
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