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undeterred

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104. Thank you.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 08:25 PM
Feb 2013

I am kind of amazed by the responders here who are not even willing to consider this point of view before they march right into the usual bashing and mockery.

I signed gladly.

Stop calling us wives and moms [View all] DonViejo Feb 2013 OP
This is ridiculous leftynyc Feb 2013 #1
It is as ridiculous as roody Feb 2013 #4
Is that supposed to be insulting? leftynyc Feb 2013 #10
And for a woman like myself who is littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #43
Are you not someone's daughter? leftynyc Feb 2013 #47
You are assuming a bit here... littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #48
Wait a minute leftynyc Feb 2013 #50
You still had a mother Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #69
Shame on you for being so vague in your argument, for using that tradition patriarchal phrase and... littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #71
Sound and fury, signifying nothing... Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #72
This is the place where the words: littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #74
Nothing hypothetical Drahthaardogs Feb 2013 #75
In you mind? eom littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #77
We are unpersons. kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #78
Thank you. n/t littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #79
I am childless and single undeterred Feb 2013 #93
Thank you. n/t littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #94
Thank you undeterred JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #103
Thank you. undeterred Feb 2013 #104
Which, of course, is not insulting in the least. FBaggins Feb 2013 #12
Yeah, Those Of Us Who Are Men But Not Sons Should Be Really Pissed. Paladin Feb 2013 #13
Well, men ARE husbands, sons, and fathers. Move on. This is nonsense. RBInMaine Feb 2013 #89
We need a petition to stop all politicians from pipoman Feb 2013 #2
I agree with you.. SummerSnow Feb 2013 #16
In my life and workplace I'm pretty much thought of as an individual lunatica Feb 2013 #3
"No good deed goes unpunished." nt bemildred Feb 2013 #5
I would rather be referred to as a wife sister daughter Heather MC Feb 2013 #6
I am a wife, mother and daughter laureloak Feb 2013 #7
I think the objection is that it can come across as a kind of "ownership." I think it would be CTyankee Feb 2013 #9
That is stipulating there is a problem leftynyc Feb 2013 #11
I knowit wasn't meant to denote ownership of women, but I can see a reasonable objection to it. CTyankee Feb 2013 #15
I can't (see a reasonable objection). FBaggins Feb 2013 #18
Look, my reference is just that women have been in the past seen as men's chattel without CTyankee Feb 2013 #20
I agree with you. MuseRider Feb 2013 #34
It's really so simple I don't see why some folks here are pushing back so hard. CTyankee Feb 2013 #36
I really have never understood MuseRider Feb 2013 #37
+1 forestpath Feb 2013 #46
It is sad that he has to remind the (mostly) men who would restrict unrelated women's rights magical thyme Feb 2013 #8
I noticed that too. You can be female and NOT be a wife, mother, sister or daughter MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #14
Um no you can't. Every woman on this planet is a daughter. phleshdef Feb 2013 #19
Both my parents have been dead for years. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #24
The status of your parents is irrelevant. My father is dead, but I'm still his son. phleshdef Feb 2013 #31
you can be a male and not have a mother? magical thyme Feb 2013 #22
If you mother is dead, you don't have one. MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #25
Sure you do--you have a deceased one. MADem Feb 2013 #30
you don't have a *living* mother magical thyme Feb 2013 #35
Jesus are you serious? a la izquierda Feb 2013 #67
I HAD a Mom and Dad, and was their daughter. Past tense. It is a little odd to be addressed as bettyellen Feb 2013 #81
Yeah, it is a strange way of phrasing it. nt a la izquierda Feb 2013 #86
I'm wondering what they should be called? LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #17
Oh, Jesus Christ... and people say there's not kooks on both sides. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #21
Why not mention "the women in our lives"? meow2u3 Feb 2013 #23
Why not just mention WOMEN? Who are the "our"? MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #26
I'll be happy if people just learn not to call grown women marybourg Feb 2013 #27
Lena Dunham needs to be taken to the woodshed! MADem Feb 2013 #33
Frankly, I'm old enough not to to know marybourg Feb 2013 #38
HBO series in its second season, and a successful Broadway Play. MADem Feb 2013 #39
I wouldn't correct a woman my age (70+) if she said something marybourg Feb 2013 #41
I am not talking about "lower status" anyone. MADem Feb 2013 #42
Don't even have a way to watch HBO and haven't since '73. (That's 1973) marybourg Feb 2013 #44
Not every woman is or has been a wife or a mother. SheilaT Feb 2013 #28
No, but every single one of them was a daughter and every human being alive had a mother CBGLuthier Feb 2013 #51
Then just refer to all women as daughters. SheilaT Feb 2013 #57
Husbands, fathers and sons. Is that offensive or limiting? MADem Feb 2013 #29
What is wrong with the all inclusive term "Women" RC Feb 2013 #32
just trying to humanize treestar Feb 2013 #40
That irks me too, as do his constant references to "families" as if family units only are worthy forestpath Feb 2013 #45
OMG OMG What a sexist bastard he is! davidpdx Feb 2013 #49
Much ado about nothing. Still Sensible Feb 2013 #52
Good grief! HappyMe Feb 2013 #53
:/ Dash87 Feb 2013 #54
I actually think this is a valid point: Le Taz Hot Feb 2013 #55
He is eliciting empathy Blaukraut Feb 2013 #56
Some women might not see themselves as being in one of those categories. They see themselves CTyankee Feb 2013 #58
Some women AND men, need to stop being so god damn nitpicky over nothing. phleshdef Feb 2013 #60
Well, I guess if you say so, it must be so! CTyankee Feb 2013 #61
Any woman who does not see herself as a daughter is very confused about language. CBGLuthier Feb 2013 #63
+1 bunnies Feb 2013 #66
Oh, dear, why do I have to explain this simple concept to you? CTyankee Feb 2013 #68
you get it, feels like he is talking to other men about some women..... bettyellen Feb 2013 #83
Yes, well I try not to project but this thread has shown me a dark side here I don't like... CTyankee Feb 2013 #91
there's a lot of anger here towards women who speak up. i get PMs all the time bettyellen Feb 2013 #95
well, I'm too damn old to care what they think! So I am going to (and have already) push back... CTyankee Feb 2013 #96
Yeah, when I was younger I'd let a lot slide... Thinking the bettyellen Feb 2013 #98
Really? SpartanDem Feb 2013 #59
This feeble mock outrage is so fucking nit-picky and ignorant I don't know where to start... Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #62
WOMEN have mothers, daughters, and wives, too. n/t jenmito Feb 2013 #64
"wives, mothers, daughters, and any women who are none of those things" bunnies Feb 2013 #65
I will preface this by saying I don't think it's a big deal gollygee Feb 2013 #70
Although I understand the author's point, NightOwwl Feb 2013 #73
Impeach the bastard if he doesn't start using the term "double x chromosomes" in reference to women. Swamp Lover Feb 2013 #76
Wow. Bluzmann57 Feb 2013 #80
and the ones who are not mean nothing. bettyellen Feb 2013 #82
Excellent catch! littlemissmartypants Feb 2013 #84
Senior Woman is fine with me HockeyMom Feb 2013 #85
I find this insulting because he is not talking to women as though senseandsensibility Feb 2013 #87
Chris Hayes seconded your motion today on Up with Chris Hayes on msnbc.com CTyankee Feb 2013 #92
Yawn. Silly nonsense. RBInMaine Feb 2013 #88
I think it's clear Obama is a sexist. Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #90
I was hit by sexism from almost the moment I was born... pink-o Feb 2013 #97
I certainly don't find this ridiculous. . . BigDemVoter Feb 2013 #99
That phraseology is a rhetorical device to bring along those who are resistant aikoaiko Feb 2013 #100
dat first world problem d_b Feb 2013 #101
Remember when DUers used to read articles, instead of just the title? Ash_F Feb 2013 #102
this is weak outrage here, seriously.... dionysus Feb 2013 #105
Oh, for crying out loud! Proud sister, aunt, wife, mother and grandmother here. sheesh! secondwind Feb 2013 #106
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