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2016 Postmortem

Empowerer

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37. Folks out in the real world need a lot of evidence. They are not as immersed in this as you may be.

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Have the Republicans played right into Harry Reid's hands? [View all] Empowerer Feb 2013 OP

I don't know. But Dems should save their ire for the GOP right now. I think they lied several TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #1

I agree Empowerer Feb 2013 #3

I think more of the anger needs to be directed at the 7 spineless Ds that wouldn't back the reform davidpdx Feb 2013 #36

I do not think so. Hard Assets Feb 2013 #2

The House will be pressured ... earthside Feb 2013 #8

Yes, I agree. Filibuster reform will be easier now to get all the dems to vote yes next time. n/t Tx4obama Feb 2013 #4

Next time when? davidpdx Feb 2013 #34

I hope you're right wryter2000 Feb 2013 #5

Folks out in the real world need a lot of evidence. They are not as immersed in this as you may be. Empowerer Feb 2013 #37

Having missed the "first day" when a simple majority was all annabanana Feb 2013 #6

Exactly. It needed to be done on day 1, when only a simple majority was needed. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #21

that's not necessarily the case. the "nuclear option" only requires 51 votes. unblock Feb 2013 #27

I don't see it working that simply davidpdx Feb 2013 #35

What's the technical term for the "nuclear option"? annabanana Feb 2013 #38

some call it the "constitutional option" unblock Feb 2013 #39

Reid's not that smart NV Whino Feb 2013 #7

Exactly right. Did you notice how quickly the President responded? Think he and Harry had a plan? lamp_shade Feb 2013 #9

Harry wasnt keeping powder dry. He was doing exactly what he wanted to keep the rateyes Feb 2013 #10

I kind of can't help agreeing with you. Cleita Feb 2013 #13

Occams razor pscot Feb 2013 #16

bingo rateyes Feb 2013 #17

Message auto-removed Leeds Devil Feb 2013 #32

I don't think they CAN change the rules now. elleng Feb 2013 #11

Dream on...would that it were true! n/t freckleface Feb 2013 #12

Another form of chess is it? Autumn Feb 2013 #14

To find powder this dry... ThoughtCriminal Feb 2013 #15

Isn't the window to reform Senate Rules closed? bvar22 Feb 2013 #18

Don't you know Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2013 #19

Harry Reid! donco Feb 2013 #20

You are wrong on this. former9thward Feb 2013 #22

There are other ways to do this - that are not limited to the first business day... Empowerer Feb 2013 #24

It takes 67 votes to change a Senate rule. former9thward Feb 2013 #26

Unless you are a Republican. In 2005, Bill Frist threated to do that MID-SESSION with 51 votes BlueStreak Feb 2013 #29

Thanks and what you are saying is true but ... former9thward Feb 2013 #30

Yes, but it was under threat of "the nuclear option", which was illegal BlueStreak Feb 2013 #31

Just how long are we going to keep up this charade? MrSlayer Feb 2013 #23

No. His powder will always be dry, and he will keep getting abused by the repukes. nt madinmaryland Feb 2013 #25

it's not clear (yet) that the deal has failed. republicans appear to be backing away from filibuster unblock Feb 2013 #28

Win by losing. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #33