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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Debunking the Ridiculous Rhetoric that Obama is an Assassin Who Targets Innocent Americans [View all]Bonobo
(29,257 posts)102. Here is a synopsis of the argument.
1. We have enemies (so we have to kill them).
2. Some enemies are American and some enemies are probably tough to capture.
3. No one knows why or how the targets are chosen, but I am sure it is for the best of reasons, really.
4. If an American is bad, he automatically becomes NOT an American.
5. In the real world, Constitutional Rights are tough to provide. This is the real world. Return to #1 above.
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babylonsister
Feb 2013
OP
K&R. I'm so tired of people like Joe Scarborough and his girlfriend Mika acting like Obama IS
jenmito
Feb 2013
#3
Thanks, jenmito, those are my sentiments as well. The shills are paid by GOP billionaires.
freshwest
Feb 2013
#56
And if you offer the facts, you'll be called "Absolutely sick and disgusting."
SunSeeker
Feb 2013
#111
It's fucking ridiculous and makes those who make claims like this look like utter fools...
Drunken Irishman
Feb 2013
#9
But what about the 'slippery slope'??? Sure we trust Obama but what about Cheney and Rumsfield???
politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
#136
Bull. If you join al Qaeda, put out a video calling for "death to America" & aiding others in
jenmito
Feb 2013
#13
Our forefathers owned slaves, so I don't consider them the gold standard. Things change. My post
jenmito
Feb 2013
#19
His father and uncle should have thought about that before becoming an enemy of America
George II
Feb 2013
#46
The "bystanders" you refer to were the targeted terrorists. The son was not targeted.
SunSeeker
Feb 2013
#49
Atrticle 1 section 8 can't find it. help... http://www.usconstitution.net ..Are we at war ?
02potato
Feb 2013
#131
I am tired of the Ralph Nader fake Bush/anyone analogy in the alt media.
graham4anything
Feb 2013
#18
Apparently, such considerations about policy have become quaint, including here on DU.
PSPS
Feb 2013
#28
the hivemind mentality of many democrats isn't much different than their republican counterparts..
frylock
Feb 2013
#71
Bullshit neocon talking points right down to the creepy fucking "Homeland" reference.
Ed Suspicious
Feb 2013
#14
When broaching the subject about who could review drone strike decisions, Brennan said
midnight
Feb 2013
#68
Finally some common sense up in here... going to bookmark PoliticusUSA...
EastKYLiberal
Feb 2013
#23
So how do you feel about "American citizens" who renounce their country and plot against it......
George II
Feb 2013
#52
Too bad they didn't get Tim McVeigh before he bombed the Murrah killing 168, inc 19 children, injuri
judesedit
Feb 2013
#31
An "ideal government in a dangerous world where America was not adored by all"
99th_Monkey
Feb 2013
#34
Thank you. Reducing the argument to Obama makes it no better than a Fox News "argument".
Dawgs
Feb 2013
#62
Thank you - maybe this will end some of the conspiracy theory and dictator stuff? Probably not
George II
Feb 2013
#38
While I don't support the rhetoric used here against drone strikes, I find those who support them...
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2013
#47
Exactly, it's an opinion piece, and one propagandistic at best. I expect far better from them :(
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#63
The twice-signed NDAA allows for the indefinite detention of US citizens without trial or
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#53
Thank you. Indeed, a horrible line is being drawn here on DU amongst those who deny there is
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#132
Interesting that those who make that point don't seem to care how their absurdity hurts their case.
patrice
Feb 2013
#59
Which is Orwellian?: Empirical analysis? or Pretending that what you don't know doesn't matter? nt
patrice
Feb 2013
#61
Good thing that Obama will be President forever and no other country will ever have drones.
Dawgs
Feb 2013
#65
Honest question: Why can't a REFORMED citizenry watch-dog this thing themselves?
patrice
Feb 2013
#70
Other countries already do have drones and would still have them even if the US would magically
Amonester
Feb 2013
#91
Thank you for posting this. The false equivalencies being bandied about...
FleetwoodMac
Feb 2013
#72
"The legalities of targeted drone killings aside, it is the critics’ rhetoric that bears scrutiny."
rug
Feb 2013
#74
Yep. Considering how many people Bush, Cheney and other repukes have murdered,
Zoeisright
Feb 2013
#75
The Fact Is The NDAA Gives Obama Unprecedented Power - No Getting Around The Facts
cantbeserious
Feb 2013
#77
Then why are peaceful protesters being spied upon by DHS and the FBI? Why are federal agents
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#86
That's a strong piece there. Will bookmark it along with so many other things today.
freshwest
Feb 2013
#84
Even if you trust Obama, which I do not, once you give the Presidency this open-ended authority,
limpyhobbler
Feb 2013
#88
not one of us would ever dream of complaining if some foreign entity came and did the same here -
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2013
#97
that's what I am saying. If some Middle Eastern country or perhaps a Latin American country were to
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2013
#124
**his civil liberties as an American citizen were forfeited, including “due process.”**
Martin Eden
Feb 2013
#103
I think President Obama is trying to establish those parameters. That was the point of the memo.
SunSeeker
Feb 2013
#114
Al-Awlaki is somebody I'd hardly consider "innocent"- based on the available evidence
Proud Liberal Dem
Feb 2013
#107
Any male person 16 or older killed by a drone strike is declared a legitimate target.
Warren Stupidity
Feb 2013
#122