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Firebrand Gary

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13. All the more reason... Starting with what they did in 2000

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 02:30 AM

Jan 2013

They have already labeled themselves as a partisan entity. US democracy is already under threat considering what took place in 2000, 2004 and recently Citizens United. Every single thing we stand for, every sense of legitimacy that we are viewed with having by other nations would be completely destroyed.

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Jesus Christ! I just watched Rachel.........Can anyone out there please tell if there is a way [View all] busterbrown Jan 2013 OP

No. It's entirely constitutional. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #1

I disagree that this is actually constitutional. Firebrand Gary Jan 2013 #5

That's just it - there is nothing specific in the constitution. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #8

Well, there is the equal protection clause. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #12

It's happened already. Maine and Nebraska employ a very similar method. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #14

Yet, the constitutionality has not been questioned yet... Firebrand Gary Jan 2013 #19

I don't know. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #20

And believe me destroying the U.S. and starting from scratch is certainly a strategy busterbrown Jan 2013 #56

Those two states don't apportion votes by county. caseymoz Jan 2013 #28

They do it based on congressional districts. Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #35

By county? Then what about the cities? Virginian Jan 2013 #41

Wait! I stand corrected. caseymoz Jan 2013 #57

Nebraska is a special case jeff47 Jan 2013 #59

Wouldn't the equal protection clause support the Virginia plan ? CincyDem Jan 2013 #55

IMO, no. And let's not just put aside gerrymandering. Let's fight it. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #63

Agree with fighting Gerrymandering CincyDem Jan 2013 #65

Agreed. The electoral college is an anti-democratic anachronism. nt SunSeeker Jan 2013 #66

All the more reason... Starting with what they did in 2000 Firebrand Gary Jan 2013 #13

puerto rico statehood reverend_tim Jan 2013 #45

Nothing specific other than that that state legislators do it karynnj Jan 2013 #54

This could be a violation of the Voting Rights Act Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #25

The Difference in What Nebraska and Maine do LarryNM Jan 2013 #47

Wondering the same thing... regnaD kciN Jan 2013 #2

Yes, it is scary. elleng Jan 2013 #3

Don't be fooled Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #26

Yes, they will try. elleng Jan 2013 #27

Start mobilizing Democrats and independents NOW. silverweb Jan 2013 #4

Yea,but as I see it this country is now at the point where there are very few independents.People busterbrown Jan 2013 #6

The point is to mobilize NOW, not a year before the election. silverweb Jan 2013 #15

To Do What? AndyTiedye Jan 2013 #22

Mobilize, yes. OnionPatch Jan 2013 #60

IF we start now, maybe. silverweb Jan 2013 #67

Hmmm 2naSalit Jan 2013 #7

Well I hope you’re right but your the only one stating this....Please update...... busterbrown Jan 2013 #9

I'll try and see what I can find 2naSalit Jan 2013 #16

what I found 2naSalit Jan 2013 #29

Each State may have different laws on this LarryNM Jan 2013 #40

In fact, they do. 2naSalit Jan 2013 #64

Might this backfire? Zambero Jan 2013 #10

Yes this is an urgent and dangerous situation UCmeNdc Jan 2013 #11

Maybe this is the despotism that the 2nd amendment is for using that logic... Historic NY Jan 2013 #17

We'll just have to drop the label of being a "democratic republic" and come up with something else, world wide wally Jan 2013 #18

"Bob Hagan" JohnnyRingo Jan 2013 #21

So, the voting Rights Act of 1964 2naSalit Jan 2013 #23

As a resident of the state of Va., dgibby Jan 2013 #24

And add Montana to the list 2naSalit Jan 2013 #31

Seems like a lot of issues are being discussed tonight...... busterbrown Jan 2013 #33

Might be able to fight the gerrymandering. octoberlib Jan 2013 #30

Thanks for the elaboration! 2naSalit Jan 2013 #32

Yea, and if I was one of them I might be easily be persuaded to hold on another 4 years. busterbrown Jan 2013 #48

One way, move into those districts. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2013 #34

There is hope but we would need a constitutional lawyer reverend_tim Jan 2013 #36

This kind of desperation ploy can easily backfire Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #37

They keep doing that in NC too. Jamastiene Jan 2013 #38

I'm from NC too. Mecklenburg county. How about that Art Pope? nt octoberlib Jan 2013 #42

Ugh, he co-founded the John Locke Foundation. Jamastiene Jan 2013 #46

We could threaten Califorinification reverend_tim Jan 2013 #39

What if California and some other states Refuse the LarryNM Jan 2013 #43

they are still out voted when the electoral college votes are counted. reverend_tim Jan 2013 #44

I realize that it is Unlikely, for now anyway LarryNM Jan 2013 #49

That I do not know, but it could be fun to see. reverend_tim Jan 2013 #50

Sounds Good To Me :) n/t LarryNM Jan 2013 #51

Virginia didn't do that... brooklynite Jan 2013 #52

Did Governor Probe sign it into law? lunatica Jan 2013 #53

K & R AzDar Jan 2013 #58

At least oldandhappy Jan 2013 #61

Meanwhile, Dems struggle to achieve a simple majority in the Senate NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #62

Can state democrats filibuster these bills? RedSpartan Jan 2013 #68