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In reply to the discussion: Ended a friendship today. [View all]

MessiahRp

(5,405 posts)
79. I've spent much of the last 6 months defriending Right Wingers
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:20 PM
Jan 2013

I know I am going to hear from people who say it's not a good policy to insulate yourself with like-minded thinkers but this really isn't about this at all. This is about defriending total fucking whack-a-loons.

And it's not a situation where you can reason with these people and bring them around. The vast majority of them are concrete set in their opinions and your opinion only makes them more willing to sink lower to defend themselves against what they view as far left communist points of view.

There's no respectful debate or thoughtful discourse to be had here and no true persuasion can be made no matter how many facts, studies or sources I have to support my logical point of view versus their angry, rage induced, fear riddled conspiracy theories.

So why bother?

Also for people that think friendships should outweigh politics, I have a hard time with that. I view your politics as who you are.

-If you support assault weapons and the NRA, you're endorsing arming maniacs, in my opinion because there's no fucking hunting use for an AR-15 unless you're the world's worst fucking hunter.

-If you're anti-abortion to the point of legislation to criminalize it, you hate women and don't believe they should have control of their bodies.

-If you're against gay marriage, you're a hateful bigot who thinks equality isn't worth having in our country.

-If you rail against illegal immigrants as if they are the reason for every problem and refuse to look at the corporations that have outsourced your jobs away, cut pay and benefits to the bone, paid through the nose to rig elections and crush unions. Well then you're clearly a racist.

-If you bitch about drug tests for welfare recipients and then make a ton of 'lazy welfare people stealing from me' comments while not giving two fucks about corporate welfare. Then again, you are a racist. This time against blacks because 99 times out of 100 that what "welfare queens" is veiled to mean. And it's bullshit.

-If you think Science is a scam, that Global Warming is a hoax, that education is elitism and that teachers are overpaid greedy moochers. You're a total douchebag that deserves to be ridiculed for your dumb fucking ideas and your MORAN signs. Idiots.

-If you think Fox News, Drudge, Limbaugh, Beck or any of those other fucking paid liars is REAL NEWS while you deride Snopes and Fact Check sites as "liberal rags", you're too stupid to have a conversation with.

-If you think our debt is spiraling out of control because of Obama who has almost never had a Democratic Congress to pass him spending bills, has spent less than any President since Eisenhower and oh yeah you didn't say a FUCKING WORD when Rumsfeld LOST $2 TRILLION at the Pentagon (and never recovered it... aka THEY STOLE IT) or Bush took a HUGE surplus and spent us into record deficits... then you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

-If you think Benghazi is proof that our President wanted people to die when 4 people died there and you're OUTRAGED that he would not be aware of the intelligence of an impending attack when BUSH purposely IGNORED an 8/6/01 PDB that spelled out the fucking 9/11 attacks IN CRAYON and did NOTHING as 4,000 people died. Then sent thousands more to die in a war of CHOICE based on fake intelligence that they doctored up. FUCK OFF RIGHT NOW. Also, how many fucking embassy bombings occurred under Bush? Care to name that stat fuckhead?

-If you think our President is a Muslim who went to a Madrassa and wasn't born in America. Or that he's a socialist/marxist/communist who is going to take your guns and possibly try to rule you by force. Fuck you, you fucking lunatic.

-If you believe tax cuts for the rich make sense and that trickle down economics is fair because THEY EARNED IT and we're all just trying to steal from the rich with our "entitlements" (SS/Medicare) then you are a fucking sheep and don't deserve to have a job. You deserve to be outsourced by your precious corporate masters. Go fuck yourself.

-If you think Health Care for everyone is so fucking unconstitutional and terrible but endless war is a good thing. Please sign up for the war and let's get a friendly fire going. But if you get shot, FUCK YOU, no VA Hospital assclown.

There's more but yeah that's the gist of it. How you can stay friends with people that have zero empathy for others and are greedy fuckers who don't give a shit about anyone else - and YES if they vote that way, that's what they are supporting - is beyond me.

I want good people in my life. Rational, reasonable, thoughtful, intelligent people. Not dumb fucks.

Yes, it's abrasive but after 20 years of their bullshit. Fuck them.

Ended a friendship today. [View all] Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 OP
Nope. I've never understood why anyone would tolerate a hateful person, Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #1
people who buy hoax theories kill the victims again. no good person can respect that roguevalley Jan 2013 #71
20 tiny coffins Protalker Jan 2013 #2
Perhaps you can look at it this way 2naSalit Jan 2013 #3
Great post! Rider3 Jan 2013 #83
Thanks. 2naSalit Jan 2013 #86
No and it is his loss. appleannie1 Jan 2013 #4
I don't think I would end a friendship over that. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #5
That's cool... Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #7
I would have laughed because of shock, not humor. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #8
Maybe. I just don't have it in me anymore to care enough to debate with these people... Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #11
You definately know better than me who you should associate with. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #12
completely understand what you are going through hopemountain Jan 2013 #49
+++1,000 SouthernDonkey Jan 2013 #58
fdebate kardonb Jan 2013 #74
I haven't had a Facbook since 2008... Rockyj Jan 2013 #101
Your former friend disrespected those 26 victims and everyone who loves them, DI catbyte Jan 2013 #89
You may have posted this to the wrong reply, as opposed to the OP. ZombieHorde Jan 2013 #92
I think you did the right thing Lifelong Protester Jan 2013 #6
Blind To A Massacre kairos12 Jan 2013 #9
You did the right thing. And you made space in your life for a better friend. SunSeeker Jan 2013 #10
Not everyone in the world can be your friend derby378 Jan 2013 #13
Nope. MynameisBlarney Jan 2013 #14
I don't think you overreacted. Brigid Jan 2013 #15
To deny the deaths of these innocents is to shoot them all over again. Not 4 me. Not 4 U. MichiganVote Jan 2013 #16
People have a right to their own opinions. baldguy Jan 2013 #17
...their own opinions, but not their own facts. n/t agracie Jan 2013 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author williamc1967txlib Jan 2013 #54
I would have been much worse salinen Jan 2013 #18
Not at all - your reaction was appropriate! LibGranny Jan 2013 #19
You did the right thing, DI. It's sad to lose a friendly acquaintance that you thought better of... Hekate Jan 2013 #20
Hoax? obxhead Jan 2013 #21
You did the right thing. K&R. n/t jenmito Jan 2013 #22
You may have helped . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #23
I couldn't either BainsBane Jan 2013 #24
I lost a friend of 25 years because Ilsa Jan 2013 #25
It's hard to have a "friendship" with someone like that. BlueDemKev Jan 2013 #26
You did what you felt was right. There does come a point when enough is enough. I think southernyankeebelle Jan 2013 #27
I don't think any functional adult can be that stupid. hay rick Jan 2013 #28
You did the right thing rightsideout Jan 2013 #29
Anyone who is buying this hoax story, likely has many other disqualifying traits for friendship. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2013 #30
Sometimes you have to say... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2013 #31
At least you're not related to him abelenkpe Jan 2013 #32
My son unfriended his in-laws on facebook! coldbeer Jan 2013 #33
I think you did the right thing... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #34
They don't sell time at the corner store The Wizard Jan 2013 #35
Great response. truebluegreen Jan 2013 #42
Send him this!! healthnut7 Jan 2013 #36
I don't think you did. I'm down to about 6 people that I will talk with. russspeakeasy Jan 2013 #37
Conspiracy nuts RoccoRyg Jan 2013 #38
Some opinions just aren't worth respecting. Chorophyll Jan 2013 #39
My line with such people is, "We are friends to the end, and rateyes Jan 2013 #40
I hate it when people insist I have to respect their opinions. truebluegreen Jan 2013 #41
Exactly. "Respect your opinion? Do you respect MY opinion that... JHB Jan 2013 #61
I believe it was Harlan Ellison who said SwankyXomb Jan 2013 #94
Certainly not entitled to hold un-informed opinions without challenge. truebluegreen Jan 2013 #108
Nice thoughts but Vietnameravet Jan 2013 #105
I hear what you are saying and the "defend to the death" thing truebluegreen Jan 2013 #107
Y^es I know its a quote and Vietnameravet Jan 2013 #109
I certainly understand, flippant or not truebluegreen Jan 2013 #113
Ha! (as Tweety says it) ReRe Jan 2013 #43
Don't fret. I have unfriended several LittleGirl Jan 2013 #44
I had to call someone out for this shit too. Claybrains Jan 2013 #45
Drunken Irishman, I have two things to share with you: freshwest Jan 2013 #46
You Did the Right Thing cer7711 Jan 2013 #47
Right. BellaKos Jan 2013 #55
That's What Really Worries Me cer7711 Jan 2013 #62
My husband works with two guys who are becoming more angry about losing their guns kimbutgar Jan 2013 #68
You, Drunken Irishman, have no obligation to soak up this guy's shit that he's putting out NBachers Jan 2013 #48
Some people just can't be helped by you holding their hand... ellisonz Jan 2013 #50
Good for you!!! These conspiracy theorists are like the worst cult imaginable graham4anything Jan 2013 #51
Not easy to "respect" victims of brainwashing. I consider Cha Jan 2013 #53
Good for you. GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #56
When I was growing up, my Mom would say... KansDem Jan 2013 #57
Hell no! You didn't overreact lunatica Jan 2013 #59
People often mistake respecting somebody's right to have an opinion with respecting the opinion alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #60
I've lost a few friends over the last few monts davidpdx Jan 2013 #63
Refute the bullshit calmly CANDO Jan 2013 #64
Don't blame you one bit. Pool Hall Ace Jan 2013 #65
Denying reality is not an opinion jmondine Jan 2013 #66
That's not an opinion ... surrealAmerican Jan 2013 #67
I unfriended someone on FaceBook last night... azlatina Jan 2013 #69
No, you are not overreacting. yellerpup Jan 2013 #70
Not overreacting. mgardener Jan 2013 #72
NO Old Codger Jan 2013 #73
I fear I'm going to lose my 2 best friends, and it's going to be the gun issue I'm sure. Populist_Prole Jan 2013 #75
Respect that they're ENTITLED to an opinion. Iggo Jan 2013 #76
Sometimes ending it is a respectful act, to them & to yourself. The questions are about patrice Jan 2013 #77
I was switching radio stations while Jenoch Jan 2013 #78
I've spent much of the last 6 months defriending Right Wingers MessiahRp Jan 2013 #79
I Love you barbiegeek Jan 2013 #80
This! helderheid Jan 2013 #81
Thank you for this! ReallyIAmAnOptimist Jan 2013 #96
I would have ended that friendship, too Rider3 Jan 2013 #82
Don't Second-Guess Yourself. You Did The Right Thing. Paladin Jan 2013 #84
I don't understand why you would even question your actions. This person is a dangerous idiot. Pisces Jan 2013 #85
It's amazing to me what people consider "opinions" wryter2000 Jan 2013 #87
You did the right thing Janecita Jan 2013 #88
Would you continue a friendship with someone who denied the Holocaust? The Moon landing? These Rowdyboy Jan 2013 #90
Well maybe the moon landing... Drunken Irishman Jan 2013 #93
The moon landing? Probably. I have some MIHOP friends, too. Recursion Jan 2013 #111
This message was self-deleted by its author Rowdyboy Jan 2013 #112
I have done the same thing Pakid Jan 2013 #91
I would dump that person too amuse bouche Jan 2013 #95
People like that are unbelievably selfish. Or paranoid. Whovian Jan 2013 #97
Mr. Irishman Iwillnevergiveup Jan 2013 #98
Honesty quakerboy Jan 2013 #99
Facts and opinions are NOT the same thing nobodyspecial Jan 2013 #100
I think this crap speaks to who they ARE as a person. It goes beyond respecting opinions. gateley Jan 2013 #102
You had to be true to yourself. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #103
Don't know anyone quite that nuts --but others that are in the vicinity elfin Jan 2013 #104
My thoughts Vietnameravet Jan 2013 #106
Respect what opinion? He wishes to pretend that something factual did not happen - that isn't an DeschutesRiver Jan 2013 #110
Great Advice & Analysis of the Problem cer7711 Jan 2013 #115
Not only no libodem Jan 2013 #114
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