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karynnj

(59,466 posts)
70. I think it would depend on how he sees his chances
Tue Jan 15, 2013, 01:12 PM
Jan 2013

If the election was November of THIS year, he very likely would not - because polling seems very very clear on that. But the election is NOT this year.

For either to win the Presidency, you have to assume that Obama's second term is successful. If it isn't, the likelihood is for a Republican win if they nominate someone not on the extreme right. Now, imagine that Biden continues to get and succeed with high profile, important efforts. He already is credited with being the man who managed the Iraq drawdown, monitored the stimulus, negotiated the year end tax deal and is now leading the effort to determine what can be done on gun control.

If he is in good health, I could imagine him running - as he did in 1988 and 2008. In 2004, he explored the possibility and found little support and opted to wait. There is no "my turn" issue here that would make him defer to Clinton. For either it would be the very last chance to become President.

It may be a moot point if only one still wants to commit to a race, but if both do - unless the polls are as clear as they are now, I really do not think EITHER owes it to the other to stand down. It could put Obama in an awkward position where he may just stay neutral.

I'm ready rocktivity Jan 2013 #1
You rock! Xipe Totec Jan 2013 #2
That would be AWESOME!!!!! nt newfie11 Jan 2013 #7
or the senator from minnesota! SugarShack Jan 2013 #3
Let the Al Franken Decade begin! TeamPooka Jan 2013 #58
He'd also make a good VP pick. Little Star Jan 2013 #87
Yes! redstatebluegirl Jan 2013 #4
NO NO NO ELI BOY 1950 Jan 2013 #5
Obama was a first term senator, no? LiberalElite Jan 2013 #8
Yeah but he also had prior elected experience. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #14
But Obama also was a State Senator for 8 years, and... Tx4obama Jan 2013 #18
I agree 1000%. Comparing Warren to Obama doesn't really work Creideiki Jan 2013 #29
I think Sec. Clinton may have something to say about that . . . fleur-de-lisa Jan 2013 #10
I'm pretty sure that Hillary has more than earned the right to be called a woman mythology Jan 2013 #28
Apparently Hillary has no problem with it abq e streeter Jan 2013 #54
Clinton/Sherrod Brown 2016 SWTORFanatic Jan 2013 #79
How about Elizabeth Warren just anyway. patrice Jan 2013 #6
Hmm... DianaForRussFeingold Jan 2013 #9
Lets just... ELI BOY 1950 Jan 2013 #12
I hope so-Joe Biden will be a GREAT President! DianaForRussFeingold Jan 2013 #23
Ditto +1000 Marie Marie Jan 2013 #27
She needs to stay in the Senate. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #11
Not true....i live in NJ and his numbers are favorable (thanks sandy) but he still can't balance a ELI BOY 1950 Jan 2013 #15
I'm not saying he's good. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #22
And because of his embrace of the President during the Hurricane Sandy aftermath customerserviceguy Jan 2013 #82
Elizabeth Warren sure is doing an amazing job in the Senate DianaForRussFeingold Jan 2013 #20
Huh? The Senate was only in session on January 3rd when everyone was sworn in ... Tx4obama Jan 2013 #31
OMG, I Totally agree! +1000...Silly isn't it.. DianaForRussFeingold Jan 2013 #34
I like Elizabeth and hope she become President some day.. That said, Biden. hlthe2b Jan 2013 #13
she won't pass ELI BOY 1950 Jan 2013 #16
How does Clinton/Warren sound? I can dream can't I, lol..... Little Star Jan 2013 #88
How about Andrew Cuomo? n/t RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #17
I suspect soon-to-be senior senator will run for president MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #19
Americans are thirsting for change????...really ELI BOY 1950 Jan 2013 #21
Really. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #25
Chelsea Clinton will be over 35 by 2016. mykpart Jan 2013 #24
I like her but she's too far left to win nation wide. Cuomo, Biden, and O'Malley are the people craigmatic Jan 2013 #26
O'Malley please... Agschmid Jan 2013 #51
I think Howard Dean was right DFW Jan 2013 #30
Not so sure about Biden... brooklynite Jan 2013 #33
I think Clinton would be the overwhelming Democratic frontrunner NewJeffCT Jan 2013 #45
She was the overwhelming favorite this time in the 2008 cycle karynnj Jan 2013 #48
If Hillary chooses to run, then I don't think that Biden would run too. Beacool Jan 2013 #68
I think it would depend on how he sees his chances karynnj Jan 2013 #70
I wasn't talking about being anyone's turn. Beacool Jan 2013 #71
I agree that if the polling is like it is now, Biden will not run karynnj Jan 2013 #72
That was different. Beacool Jan 2013 #73
Amen! Little Star Jan 2013 #89
Absolutely not... brooklynite Jan 2013 #32
I have reservations about Warren center rising Jan 2013 #35
such as? can you elaborate? n/t Agschmid Jan 2013 #52
How wide is her appeal outside of people who post to liberal message boards? Recursion Jan 2013 #36
Please, no more Massachusetts nominees for a while!! BluegrassDem Jan 2013 #37
Kennedy - though if there had been no voter suppression in Ohio 2004 - there would have been 2 karynnj Jan 2013 #49
While I do hope Hillary runs leftynyc Jan 2013 #38
I like Gillibrand too she is my senator... Agschmid Jan 2013 #53
I doubt she would run(Warren). nt cecilfirefox Jan 2013 #39
I don't think Clinton or Biden will run davidpdx Jan 2013 #40
Like you, I don't think she will run - but her age may make it more likely karynnj Jan 2013 #55
The sudden turn over of both seats kills MA's seniority davidpdx Jan 2013 #57
if Hillary doesn't run WooWooWoo Jan 2013 #41
NO Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2013 #42
What's so bad about staying in the Senate? Jennicut Jan 2013 #43
Too soon. Beacool Jan 2013 #44
'historical' candidate, eh? Whisp Jan 2013 #46
What's the problem? Beacool Jan 2013 #47
a previous Mrs. President Whisp Jan 2013 #60
You know what, I'm not going to fall for the bait. Beacool Jan 2013 #62
because I love the sound Whisp Jan 2013 #65
Yawwwnnnnn........... Beacool Jan 2013 #66
Howard Dean? Agschmid Jan 2013 #50
Hillary is the 1 for me Protalker Jan 2013 #56
You know what's fucked up? CheapShotArtist Jan 2013 #59
They don't win either. Beacool Jan 2013 #63
Point taken. mykpart Jan 2013 #64
How about, no. brooklynite Jan 2013 #61
I really hope Hillary runs. musicblind Jan 2013 #67
I can't wait for her Congressional testimony. Beacool Jan 2013 #69
She should stay in the Senate, at least for now. Maybe 2020. socialaidem Jan 2013 #74
I'm going to wait until 2014 Capt. Obvious Jan 2013 #75
how about Joe Biden demwing Jan 2013 #76
Joe sellitman Jan 2013 #77
To those who love Hillary DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #78
ah, yes! The "inevitability" meme. Know what? They are doing it again. n/t antigop Jan 2013 #80
Of course DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #81
Oh, please............ Beacool Jan 2013 #83
Oh please DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #84
I don't want to get into a 2008 primary fight. Beacool Jan 2013 #85
I never debated the last part DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #91
Hey, don't kill Bill!!! Beacool Jan 2013 #92
Miss bea DonCoquixote Jan 2013 #93
Well, maybe so. Beacool Jan 2013 #94
I'm there "IF" Hillary doesn't run. Little Star Jan 2013 #86
Hilary is ok with foreign affairs Jeneral2885 Jan 2013 #90
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