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So is this forum now a President Obama criticism free zone. [View all]

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It seems all weekend, every time someone levied a critism about Obama, there was this rush to silence them. Do Democrats on this board now have to be like the Republicans under Bush and rubberstamp anything and everything whether or not you agree with it? Then the namecalling begins. If this is a discussion board, than we should be able to discuss without the name calling, questioning people's loyalty to the party, or claims that the dissenters hair is on fire.

I for one am not happy that we will revisit the spending cuts and debt ceiling issues in another two months, with little to bargain with and a pissed off GOP. No matter how dead many here think the GOP is, they are not buried yet and they can still create chaos.

Also the Obama Tax Cuts, (what they will be called from here on out) are PERMANENT, unlike the Bush Tax Cuts which had an expiration date on them. Tax Rates were already at their lowest rates in the past 50 years. No future Congress will ever be able to raise taxes again and even President Obama has taken up the mantra that we have a deficit problem. The Obama Tax Cuts add $4 Trillion dollars to the deficit and again they are permanent, so the only solution is going to be spending cuts. Even when the economy returns to normal, we will still have deficits because you don't just wipe out deficits in the trillions overnight.

We have an aging population, a declining birth rate (even amongst the immigrants who were previously driving the birth rate), and spending cuts will be revisited again, and this time somethings gonna give because even Democrats like Ed Rendell are talking about how we have to do something about the deficit and Obama should have embraced Bowles-Simpson.

I'm sorry if it gets the veteran DU posters here panties all in a wad if someone has a different opinion regarding President Obama's negotiating tactics, but so be it. He ran a campaign on the premise that we needed the tax cuts to return to the Clinton era rates for those making over $250K (which in and of itself would assure future deficit spending) in order to increase the revenue stream and then he caved on it. Don't jerk on my strings saying you have to get us (the public) behind you, and then when we're behind you you're no longer in front leading.

I don't care what people here call me, (troll, hair on fire, whatever) I know how I have supported this President in the past and I know how I feel about him personally. But this is not personal. I'm almost 55; I want to be able to plan for my future. I'm tired of kicking the can down the road. The talk will quickly return to the deficit and spending cuts and no one seems to want to cut anything, (not Medicare, not Chain CPI which isn't even a cut but a slowing of the increase), and the Congress seems unwilling to cut the Defense Spending. I'd rather this stuff be discussed here out in the open rather than to wake up one morning to find out that a handful of Congressmen and women who represent a handful of states the size of Rhode Island, have reached a "grand bargain" deal which sells us out and we have nothing to say about it.

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