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stupidicus

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28. well

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:44 PM

Dec 2012

the two things are inextricably intertwined I'd think.

While it's possible to hate the sin but love the sinner as JC suggested, that can or does take place because they own the sin, and therefore the criticism due for it, and are loved despite it.

WHy it would be a crime or sin to criticize him when he earns and deserves is beyond me, and I'd bet he'd be the last to think himself above criticism.

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Here's why the chained CPI makes no sense. [View all] ProSense Dec 2012 OP

In Washington, strengthening SS means "paying less out". Period. No other options. djean111 Dec 2012 #1

But President Obama says compromise is more important than excellence or decency... Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #2

Too true! pandr32 Dec 2012 #11

It just makes too much sense for the third way to wrap their complicated heads around. n/t adirondacker Dec 2012 #3

I agree with your points above but honestly confused. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #4

I normally defend Pres Obama to a fault. And I disagree vehemently with this leaked proposal. ieoeja Dec 2012 #5

Thanks, ieoija. You would think characters like Pete Peterson and Timothy Geithner are well JDPriestly Dec 2012 #16

indeed, I'm sure we aren't the only ones that have noticed stupidicus Dec 2012 #8

Chained CPI is a cut to Social Security. I trust Senator Sanders more than I trust Obama. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #14

Chained CPI is a small cut to benefits for those above a certain income level bhikkhu Dec 2012 #18

A lot of people recognize "means testing" as the first step to calling SS a welfare program instead byeya Dec 2012 #20

I agree that "we're all in this together" is better in theory bhikkhu Dec 2012 #26

People who earn above a certain income level are already required to pay part of their Social JDPriestly Dec 2012 #29

ProSense and I care about policy alcibiades_mystery Dec 2012 #22

I find it a little ironic that you accuse those that might disagree with ProSense and You rhett o rick Dec 2012 #24

Now I'm depressed... SunSeeker Dec 2012 #6

SS has no business being in the debt negotiations. blackspade Dec 2012 #7

It's a barganing chip. He could offer to give Yellowstone to the Koch Bros. rhett o rick Dec 2012 #10

Here is why they are going after Social Security and federal employee retirement funds. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #30

I knew all that and totally agree. blackspade Dec 2012 #31

Well, I agree it is a bad idea JayhawkSD Dec 2012 #9

It's primary intention is to channel MORE MONEY into the stock market JDPriestly Dec 2012 #12

Exactly! Rocky888 Dec 2012 #13

Thank you for this post me b zola Dec 2012 #15

Chained CPI, "with tweaks", becomes essentially a means-test bhikkhu Dec 2012 #17

Did you just post an OP trashing Obama? UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2012 #19

Unlike the ODSers, ProSense is criticizing what's on the table, NOT Obama! Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #21

That is how it should be Harmony Blue Dec 2012 #23

if he put it there perhaps maybe you can explain for the readers stupidicus Dec 2012 #25

I should just allow ProSense to speak for herself, but if I know her well, and I do... Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #27

well stupidicus Dec 2012 #28

Again, ProSense should speak fo herself. Liberal_Stalwart71 Dec 2012 #32

Criticizing policy is very different from trashing the person Grateful for Hope Dec 2012 #33