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Showing Original Post only (View all)Amazed at how Some Folks Jump to the Extreme Negative on everything Obama Does [View all]
Every position Obama takes, he's "caving in to the Republicans" or "he's selling out his base" or "he's a corporatist puppet" or "he's making the elderly eat cat food". And, these extreme negative positions are taken without knowing ANY facts, just heresy from the media's unnamed, inside sources.
Much like the ACA, everyone was howling about how awful it was. Until the actual facts came out. Facts like, your kid can stay on your plan until 26. No co-pays for checkups. No lifetime caps. No denial for pre-existing conditions. All of the good things didn't stop folks from saying that Obama sold out on healthcare.
How about waiting until seeing the actual facts of any agreement before making a judgment? Can we try that for once?
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Amazed at how Some Folks Jump to the Extreme Negative on everything Obama Does [View all]
Yavin4
Dec 2012
OP
Not enough cold water in the ocean to put out this fire, I'm afraid. No cuts to SS - shouldn't even
leveymg
Dec 2012
#2
FACT IS, he said - flat out - in his presser this morning, that 'everything' was on the table.
Myrina
Dec 2012
#3
You assume you know who's standing, how, and for what. I wonder too if anyone thinks about how such
patrice
Dec 2012
#40
Myrina, don't confuse them with facts. THey like to tell us to SHUT UP FUCKERS!
roguevalley
Dec 2012
#50
What is the definition of "everything" please and thank you as in "everything is on the table"?
patrice
Dec 2012
#95
Actually, ,he only promised that SS would not be privatized while he was president. If Democrats
freshwest
Dec 2012
#52
I think a certain percentage are republican or libertarians. Both bash all Democrats and hate Obama.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#53
This place IS about done for. It's like watching a slow motion train wreck. I anticipate just
patrice
Dec 2012
#36
OMG, I thought I was the only one who was thinking that!! & The trouble with anti-authoritarianism
patrice
Dec 2012
#94
I think we, all of us, would benefit from more open honest discussion of what freedom is.
patrice
Dec 2012
#98
The word "weird" has a very interesting evolution, so I think I know what you mean. & it is weird
patrice
Dec 2012
#104
Signing 3 so-called "free-trade" agreements and getting ready to sign another (TPP) is anti-labor.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#79
Why doesn't Obama just cut military spending and aid to countries like Pakistan.
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#56
You did not defeat the people who make money from wars, which is not just the banks.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#58
PAUL KRUGMAN himself said that he's reserving judgement on what is going on with this CPI proposal.
patrice
Dec 2012
#41
K, so there's no need for rational support? Just saying things makes them so? . . . .
patrice
Dec 2012
#45
Credentials are about rational support based on information about what is happening to people, sorry
patrice
Dec 2012
#47
No. Relying upon credentials while rejecting the views of ordinary Americans who do not claim to
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#82
People with credentials have been wrong before. Did you know that Bush-43 has an MBA degree?
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#87
Neither condition, credentialed or not, is a guarantor of validity or invalidity. The basics are
patrice
Dec 2012
#100
Agreed! And "ordinary Americans who do not claim to have credentials" & represent themselves as
patrice
Dec 2012
#92
I'm not against self expression. I'm against self expression that delivers universal absolutes &
patrice
Dec 2012
#105
By and large it's the same people who have jumped on Obama for the last four years
WI_DEM
Dec 2012
#9
Amazed at how some folks jump to the extreme positive on every republican idea Obama puts out.
Jakes Progress
Dec 2012
#16
"extreme positive"?? WHERE, please? Everyone, including PAUL KRUGMAN, is saying it's too early. SHOW
patrice
Dec 2012
#44
so at least you agree that Mike Bloomberg is doing great things and should be Homeland Security head
graham4anything
Dec 2012
#71
Hell, we've both been here for over 10 years! You're not really amazed, are you?
11 Bravo
Dec 2012
#20
This is their cycle. Ad nauseam. I was wondering when they'd all come back.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#21
I get tired of it when some people are considered 'holy cows' that one should not criticize.
Michigan Alum
Dec 2012
#22
It's possible to think that about either side of what we're seeing here. Who's right? nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#32
OUR problem is Congress. & We are setting ourselves up for a fall in 2014. People won't vote in
patrice
Dec 2012
#27
Make that: Naderites reincarnated as Anarchists reinforced by eager LiberTea Trolls.
patrice
Dec 2012
#31
Jay Gould, "I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half" . . .
patrice
Dec 2012
#29
Par for the course with many on this board intent on sowing dissent. It's their only purpose.
Pisces
Dec 2012
#42
He's the adult in the room. Sometimes children hate adults. It's that simple.
Tarheel_Dem
Dec 2012
#66
And I'm amazed how some folks accept the same actions from Obama that they condemned Bush for
MotherPetrie
Dec 2012
#83
What good does waiting for the agreement before we protest it do? It's too late then.
Demit
Dec 2012
#84
Waiting for the facts is a foreign concept 'round these parts. Nice effort on your part.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Dec 2012
#93