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Response to NPolitics1979 (Original post)

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 12:29 PM

7. militia based RKBA (right to keep/bear arms)

There's some misinformation floating about on this thread, be more careful of what you contend.
The 2ndAmendment was written in 1791 which is about 221 years ago, altho you might be thinking of previous colonial 'have arms' decrees which it was based upon. There were relatively few murders in the rev-war era, sometimes cities having none for years then a couple etc.

2ndA was originally meant as a militia based right to keep/bear arms (RKBA) for collective defense against rebellion & foreign invasion.
There was no comparable modern dichotomy between 'militia based' vs 'individual RKBA' theories when it was written, for muskets were not plentiful & were single shot & risky for self defense when a long knife, sword, or club was more desirable. The prevailing thought was you could own a firearm if you could afford it, and use it for whatever justifiable reason came up, but the constitutional 2ndA RKBA was meant to put you armed in the citizens militia.

.. 2ndA was written in 1791 as I said, & the next year 1792 the 'Militia Act of 1792' was written, which made law that every white male between 17 & 45 was to serve in his state militia once a year for duty, & was to provide his own musket (if he had one). So this was no coincidence, 2ndA written in 1791 & the militia act in 1792, the latter spelled out the rules for what the 2ndA had written.
.. the militia did not turn out as the founding fathers intended, people started to shirk their duty, sometimes pay others to do it for them, or not show up at all. By 1830 the term 'unorganized militia' came about (apart from the well regulated one), and by then there indeed had risen the dichotomy, to a lesser extent, that americans had an individual RKBA aside from the militia, largely brought upon by those who wanted all their so called rights but with no obligation to do much to preserve them.

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