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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why Obama is the worst negotiator ever: He puts artificial constraints on himself [View all]BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)1. It's silly to pretend there is no risk to the economy if everyone's taxes rise on Jan. 1
I don't have a problem going off the cliff if it avoids the cave-in that you are proposing, which is basically a collate-job of every potential concession that has been reported. But you shouldn't pretend there is no incentive to get this done before Jan. 1. There is. Not just for the economy, but to put this issue behind him and put some achievements on the board (starting with immigration) that will also require Republican votes in the House.
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BlueStreak
Dec 2012
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It's silly to pretend there is no risk to the economy if everyone's taxes rise on Jan. 1
BeyondGeography
Dec 2012
#1
Please explain how rolling over on these issues helps him get a better deal on immigration
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#6
Wrong. Not all of my relatives had their own insurance ... my now 16 year old neice ...
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#101
I alerted on your post and a jury of your peers voted 3-3 to let it stand. One of your peers
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#60
As I expected, complete and total silence when called out. I guess that's par for the
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#137
In order to make this claim you HAVE TO know more about everything than PO does.
patrice
Dec 2012
#27
So "small" stuff doesn't matter. Tell that to any one person needing health care. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#34
The fact that you think I'm suggesting blackmail here is evidence of your bias. Admit it. nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#35
You don't know shit. You are armchair Presidenting like the rest of the posers around here.
phleshdef
Dec 2012
#56
Again, do you in fact know EVERYTHING you would need to know in order to arrive at this conclusion?
patrice
Dec 2012
#36
Not my point. I'm saying there could be such things. You are saying there is no possibility
patrice
Dec 2012
#50
YUP ... same prediction pops up every few months ... then it doesn't happen ...
JoePhilly
Dec 2012
#82
In 2017 we'll start hearing "Well he really DID want to but WE stopped him."
NYC Liberal
Dec 2012
#94
Please share your resume including details of the high national elected offices you have held?
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#44
By your logic, the only reasonable thing is to go into a bunker for 60 days
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#127
I am so glad Obama is the President and you are just a hater. Everything in its proper place.
MjolnirTime
Dec 2012
#58
The OP was wrong to use the term "moron." And he should be called out for it.
rhett o rick
Dec 2012
#110
Number 1 is NOT already in the bag. They are now talking about giving away half of that
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#79
I'm thinking that if Obama is pushing for additional things not already in his budget
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#118
I don't know but I think you need to send him your thread. Truly good stuff!!
Filibuster Harry
Dec 2012
#96
There are downsides, but they are practically the same if the House just passes the Senate's bill
BlueStreak
Dec 2012
#125