2016 Postmortem

graham4anything

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47. either / or. it could be Christie/Rubio

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:14 AM

Dec 2012

and yes, I agree with you perfectly about Hillary. It's hers on all choices, and she is the one and only democraic candidate who can beat Jeb.

Jeb would be their strongest nationwide candidate, and it would be alot closer.Which is why I went with the 2nd and 3rd strongest and not Jeb in this thread.

(all the other extremists on the right in their party would be equal to Goldwater in 1964 and get whomped.

Christie though would have taken the job this time had it been offered. I think he would accept if Rubio were the candidate (or Jeb or anyone) as he knows 2016 would be his last chance nationally. Politically he would be better off not runinng for reelection this year as he has nowhere to go but down in popularity from this point on if he has national ambitions.

BTW interesting thing is the showdown of him vs. Bloomberg on how to remake the boardwalks on the Jersey shore, even though Bloomberg has no power in NJ, Bloomy is calling for concrete instead of Redwood and Bloomy has a great point.

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If its Hillary vs.Rubio/Christie in 2016 what states would Rubio win? Any? EV's? Any? [View all] graham4anything Dec 2012 OP

Having lost a son and a husband due to cancer riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #1

Sorry to hear that. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #3

i'm so sorry JI7 Dec 2012 #10

OMG...I am so so sorry rbvg ! Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2012 #11

I am so sorry for your loss. Beacool Dec 2012 #24

I think if the Economy is on the boom like expect she could get more electoral votes then hrmjustin Dec 2012 #2

Why Crist? I don't see that he adds anything. dkf Dec 2012 #4

Yeah. I don't see him getting it. immoderate Dec 2012 #5

I put him in to ensure Florida. Castro in Texas might ensure Texas, but then Rubio would win Fl. graham4anything Dec 2012 #6

Crist lost in Florida earlier. Hillary doesn't need him. dkf Dec 2012 #8

Rubio won't win Florida... Sancho Dec 2012 #18

Utah and Oklahoma will always go GOP Adenoid_Hynkel Dec 2012 #7

OK, I edited the title and it just says Hillary vs. (with no VP listed) graham4anything Dec 2012 #9

around here, almost best to say "who will get the dem nom Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2012 #13

New Jersey is solid blue for President and Senator. How about Hillary/Biden graham4anything Dec 2012 #15

Stop! Stop it right now MiniMe Dec 2012 #12

can't we do two things at once, ? please? Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2012 #14

Finalizing 2016 as a continuation, means President Obama won't be a lameduck at all graham4anything Dec 2012 #16

Why do you think posts on this website "lock in" a candidate? former9thward Dec 2012 #17

We means democrats. Maybe Al Sharpton at MSNBC is looking in right now graham4anything Dec 2012 #19

Bush 41 has a pantload of baggage to counter-balance the fairly recent uptick in admiration. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2012 #20

Hopefully it will be an epic civil war in their party. IMHO he is the hardest to beat in general graham4anything Dec 2012 #22

Even if the economy is doing much better in 4 years NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #21

He'd probably win about what Romney did -- (around 206). NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #23

Why can't Mississippi and Alabama turn Blue with minority voters? graham4anything Dec 2012 #25

Then why didn't Obama win those states? NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #28

Hillary has a better chance of winning a larger share of the white vote than Obama. Drunken Irishman Dec 2012 #29

Perhaps that's so. But I still believe she'd have to spend some extra money there to do it. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #30

Romney won Alabama by over 20 points NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #34

I sincerely hope we choose someone other than Hillary to run. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #26

don't want to be a downer, or an ageist oldhippydude Dec 2012 #27

Julian Castro who would be all of 42 or Charlie Crist(who so tan and fit at 60 looks 45 at most!) graham4anything Dec 2012 #31

actually i was thinking Castro oldhippydude Dec 2012 #33

Come on don't be stupid davidpdx Dec 2012 #32

Hillary-D wins NPolitics1979 Dec 2012 #35

What is this proportional? Never heard of that being in effect. graham4anything Dec 2012 #36

Republican controlled State Legislature and Governors in States such as FL,MI,OH,PA,VA,and WI NPolitics1979 Dec 2012 #43

Hillary though will win. The other dems cannot beat Jeb. End.of.story. graham4anything Dec 2012 #45

Oklahoma, Wyoming, South Carolina, and Utah would go for Caligula before ... 11 Bravo Dec 2012 #37

I think that's the silliest opinion I've seen in weeks... brooklynite Dec 2012 #38

Why? graham4anything Dec 2012 #39

Because they're Republicans... brooklynite Dec 2012 #44

We do not need a former Walmart board member as our candidate, IMHO. grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #40

It's Graham vs. Graham on Hillary here. graham4anything Dec 2012 #41

What will she do about ending the costly trade agreements? grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #42

Please Clarify Warren Religion Dec 2012 #46

either / or. it could be Christie/Rubio graham4anything Dec 2012 #47