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In the discussion thread: Should Dems be thoughtfully considering broaching means testing for Social Security eligibility? [View all]

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Sun Dec 9, 2012, 08:08 AM

mgcgulfcoast (646 posts)

33. they shouldnt have to pay into social security

if they get nothing back.

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66 replies	Author	Time	Post
Should Dems be thoughtfully considering broaching means testing for Social Security eligibility? [View all]	Texin	Dec 2012	OP
Means testing is a pretty sure route to killing SS.	Jackpine Radical	Dec 2012	#1
yep-- that's how the argument goes	NoMoreWarNow	Dec 2012	#62
Means testing is also an expensive administrative nightmare.	avedon	Dec 2012	#64
Yes. And raise the cap.	PDJane	Dec 2012	#2
If that is what it takes to shut down any conversation of raising the retirement age, then yes	bluestateguy	Dec 2012	#3
No. Not unless you want to further the process of privatizing and killing SS.	AnotherMcIntosh	Dec 2012	#4
I know an extremely rich guy who collects social security and Medicare	kimbutgar	Dec 2012	#5
And your example typifies what I was talking about.	Texin	Dec 2012	#8
I made this point on another thread	democrattotheend	Dec 2012	#55
No	DURHAM D	Dec 2012	#6
Anyone that pays into SS should get it nt	newfie11	Dec 2012	#7
No, they should raise the cap! Means testing means that SS would get slashed for EVERYONE.	forestpath	Dec 2012	#9
25-30 years ago, I might have agreed with you.	Texin	Dec 2012	#13
How many of you have more than $1 million saved for retirement?	reinan	Dec 2012	#47
You seem to have trouble with basic math.	jeff47	Dec 2012	#49
Absolutely not	Zorro	Dec 2012	#10
Exactly, SS is NOT a welfare program, and means testing would misrepresent it as such	anneboleyn	Dec 2012	#31
No. Means testing makes it a welfare program.	PSPS	Dec 2012	#11
Very bad idea	ToxMarz	Dec 2012	#12
Not necessarily	democrattotheend	Dec 2012	#25
No.	jeff47	Dec 2012	#45
You should review the topic being discussed	ToxMarz	Dec 2012	#58
No.	backscatter712	Dec 2012	#14
It's our only truly universal social program	frazzled	Dec 2012	#15
How about NO THE FUCK NO.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2012	#16
That would be shrill.	bunkerbuster1	Dec 2012	#41
no. First--SS and Medicare are not in trouble.	brokechris	Dec 2012	#17
That's really sad	democrattotheend	Dec 2012	#26
they are great people	brokechris	Dec 2012	#53
But I thought all rich people were evil?	democrattotheend	Dec 2012	#54
that seems to be the common thought around here.	brokechris	Dec 2012	#57
Hell no, fuck no and just no.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2012	#18
No.	Blue_In_AK	Dec 2012	#19
Depends if you want to kill SS. If yes, then yes.	blkmusclmachine	Dec 2012	#20
Everyone should get it but have no cap	marlakay	Dec 2012	#21
No, very bad idea. The system is supposed to function properly and have the money	Coyotl	Dec 2012	#22
SS should always be there to keep people above the poverty level as a benefit, not an entitlement.	Sunlei	Dec 2012	#23
NO! SS is one of the most successful anti-poverty programs in the history	coalition_unwilling	Dec 2012	#24
why? they paid into it like everyone else. However, they should raise the cap	still_one	Dec 2012	#27
I do not believe they should raise the retirement age and	underthematrix	Dec 2012	#28
Absolutely not. That would be a death sentence for it.	David__77	Dec 2012	#29
to keep it short and simple	njcamden_25884	Dec 2012	#30
No.	SheilaT	Dec 2012	#32
they shouldnt have to pay into social security	mgcgulfcoast	Dec 2012	#33
nope....if you paid into the system you are entitled to medicare.	madrchsod	Dec 2012	#34
At a minimum	Capisce	Dec 2012	#35
No need. Just change the way Social Security is funded.	kyungju park	Dec 2012	#36
Or you could do progressive rates	union_maid	Dec 2012	#37
Welcome to DU, and I hope you enjoy the site.	hrmjustin	Dec 2012	#50
No, but Fed income tax on it can be increased for wealthier	wishlist	Dec 2012	#38
Yes. Anything that protects people who need it more... nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Dec 2012	#39
Which means testing does not do.	jeff47	Dec 2012	#48
No.	bunkerbuster1	Dec 2012	#40
I should probably h/t Atrios	bunkerbuster1	Dec 2012	#42
Means test, no - Raise the cap, definitely. Nt	jeaps	Dec 2012	#43
Put me down with the No's	SouthernDonkey	Dec 2012	#44
NO!	forestpath	Dec 2012	#46
After having a long conversation on this topic with an American friend,	PDJane	Dec 2012	#51
Should Dems be thoughtfully considering broaching means testing for Social Security eligibility?	JLII	Dec 2012	#52
A better solution to the solvency problem is to raise the cap.	PDJane	Dec 2012	#56
No. Raise the cap.	Hekate	Dec 2012	#59
How to really help SS	winstongator	Dec 2012	#60
welcome to DU	NoMoreWarNow	Dec 2012	#61
Welcome to DU and I hope you enjoy the site.	hrmjustin	Dec 2012	#63
No.	Iggo	Dec 2012	#65
there is a reason why a strong welfare state has very strong support throughout Europe and	Douglas Carpenter	Dec 2012	#66

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