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exboyfil

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27. Would we be willing to eliminate the deduction for future mortgages?
Sat Dec 1, 2012, 08:17 AM
Dec 2012

Home values would take an immediate hit, but current homeowners will have nothing change on their taxes. Another possibility is to cap the home mortgage value at $300,000 to $500,000 for deductability (not sure how much additional tax revenue would be generated though). You could also have deductability reside in different buckets (all charitable is deductible and could be combined with a lower standard deduction). Medical expenses should definitely go into a different bucket anyway. It is shameful that some of the most vulnerable have the least access to this deduction.

For me giving it up is not a big deal. I am at 2.75% now on my mortgage and, at $100,000, my marginal tax rate it does not represent that much money. Since I take full advantage of my state's 529 (exempting $11K of my income from state taxes) my state income tax burden is high but still combined with property taxes and charitable leaves an amount lower than the standard deduction. That means that only a portion of the $2,750 that can be deducted is effective (figure approx. 30% tax rate savings is probably around $600).

I remember doing this calculation several years ago when I calculating the full value of the mortgage deduction. It turned out that very little savings was had from having it in place (I earned alot less back then). I have always lived in relatively low housing expense states though (Iowa and Tennessee). Since Tennessee did not have a state income tax (and this was before you could use the sales tax as a deduction), the mortgage interest deduction met little to me. I noticed realtors did not consider this when they tried to sell homes (of course they would not).

get rid of it for everybody just because YOU don't save much. ok nt msongs Nov 2012 #1
Should we get rid of it? I'm not saying yes or no xxxsdesdexxx Nov 2012 #6
first you have to have a mortgage. then you can calculate. hollysmom Nov 2012 #2
Depends on if you think promoting affordability increases housing demand, and thereby prices NoOneMan Nov 2012 #3
It also depends on where you live in the country NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #4
There is no obnoxiousdrunk Nov 2012 #5
I believe you are correct, so I will edit my original post to remove that. xxxsdesdexxx Nov 2012 #7
For people who are unable to refinance at a low rate because they have lost their jobs, djean111 Nov 2012 #8
Considering I deduction 4 to 5 times the amount of the standard single tax deduction of $5800, sinkingfeeling Nov 2012 #9
Using your numbers Proud Public Servant Nov 2012 #10
part of what pisses me off about this discussion is that i never would have bought my house unblock Nov 2012 #11
In a way, you are almost suggesting that the deduction increases demand NoOneMan Nov 2012 #12
is there an offsetting effect? sure. is it a 100% offset? of course not. unblock Nov 2012 #15
The damage is already done NoOneMan Nov 2012 #16
You make a good point, unblock. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #52
I'm in the same boat as you ... Myrina Dec 2012 #44
in my case, I no longer have a mortgage so it doesn't save me anything now. But it used to. Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #13
We should get rid of it and replace it with a 15% credit. bornskeptic Nov 2012 #14
Excellent idea xxxsdesdexxx Nov 2012 #17
sounds good for leveling the playing field but c'mon; if my tax rate is Filibuster Harry Dec 2012 #38
No State Income Tax Where You Live? AndyTiedye Nov 2012 #19
We paid about $2200 in state income tax last year. bornskeptic Dec 2012 #28
you are forgetting those of us who live in high income tax states lasttrip Nov 2012 #18
I pay about $2,265.00 in state income tax to the state of California xxxsdesdexxx Nov 2012 #20
I think your example is self serving and restrictive and does not ask the right question. I for one OhioworkingDem Nov 2012 #21
Not middle zipplewrath Dec 2012 #40
LOL that caught my eye too! Myrina Dec 2012 #45
Once you overcome your standard deduction, mary195149 Nov 2012 #22
Medical expenses you can deduct only the expenses that exceed 10% of your AGI question everything Nov 2012 #24
83.7 Billions question everything Nov 2012 #23
Saves me alot Gargoyle22 Dec 2012 #25
It saves me a lot too Meshuga Dec 2012 #29
I Don't Have Kids; What Other Tax Break Iggy Dec 2012 #26
Would we be willing to eliminate the deduction for future mortgages? exboyfil Dec 2012 #27
It saves many of us a lot. Progressive dog Dec 2012 #30
Recalculate that with 7percent interest and pretend that you... peace13 Dec 2012 #31
I Didn't Even Look At The Numbers. Most Everybody Likes It. Taking It Away Is A Political LOSER DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2012 #32
Agreed Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #37
Don't think it is worth as much as folks think. But it's not going away. Everyone wants a loophole. Hoyt Dec 2012 #33
With mortgage interest at all time lows, it doesn't amount to a lot; however.... Texin Dec 2012 #34
good post taught_me_patience Dec 2012 #35
The answer to every tax question: It Depends Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #36
Since my home was foreclosed on, it doesn't save me ANYTHING. Bake Dec 2012 #39
Where's my renters deduction DAVEDCHICAGO Dec 2012 #41
If you rent you do not have to pay property taxes or carry insurance on the dwelling itself. djean111 Dec 2012 #43
I'M also paying a Premium to them to cover those items.. DAVEDCHICAGO Dec 2012 #48
No, sorry - you have no real skin in the game. djean111 Dec 2012 #49
read this DAVEDCHICAGO Dec 2012 #50
If your landlord doesn't get the deduction, your rent goes up. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #53
The interest deduction helps offset the lack of equity paid off in the opening years.. smorkingapple Dec 2012 #42
+100 Myrina Dec 2012 #46
I'm married too. qwlauren35 Dec 2012 #47
At today's interest rates, the deduction may not make that much difference for families JDPriestly Dec 2012 #51
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