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lalalu

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38. It is unbelievable how congress gets away with so much

Reply to HereSince1628 (Reply #29)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 07:43 PM

Nov 2012

for doing so little.

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There Is No Fiscal Cliff. [View all] lalalu Nov 2012 OP

calling this a "cliff" is more shock doctrine stuff an obvious attempt at getting a reduction in s.s leftyohiolib Nov 2012 #1

agree lalalu Nov 2012 #3

Wise advice. Thanks, lalalu. freshwest Nov 2012 #2

Voters did a great job on election day. lalalu Nov 2012 #5

It's hard, they're paid well to break the progressive momentum. freshwest Nov 2012 #9

Tax cuts for middle class will expire too gravity Nov 2012 #4

I'm with you part of the way customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #6

It will be difficult lalalu Nov 2012 #7

Maybe I didn't put some of that correctly customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #13

OK, I get what you are saying now. lalalu Nov 2012 #15

Regarding that credit rating drop: allrevvedup Nov 2012 #16

Yes, expiration of the Bush tax cuts customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #19

Debt ceiling is a separate issue. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #20

Legally, yes customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #22

Yes, they'll push us over the cliff, allrevvedup Nov 2012 #25

Again, they know that there's a lot of fat and waste in the defense budget customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #27

For what the current interest rates are on CD's SouthernDonkey Nov 2012 #28

Welcome to DU! customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #31

If you believe.... PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #60

I dont think interest rates will rise bossy22 Nov 2012 #11

How much further can they fall? customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #14

they can go lower bossy22 Nov 2012 #30

I suppose that they could asymptotically decline customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #32

Sequestration is a bit of a cliff ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #8

You are right but we need a shock wave. lalalu Nov 2012 #10

We thought the same thing prior to the Super Committee fiasco a few years back. ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #12

Yes it is stealth austerity either way. lalalu Nov 2012 #17

Oh, there will be a shock wave customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #18

Obama can restore funding cuts by executive order. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #21

I'm not sure that's correct customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #23

Let them call him a dictator. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #24

If it gets to that, they will customerserviceguy Nov 2012 #26

No he cannot ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #40

He can add a signing statement to emergency funding legislation allrevvedup Nov 2012 #41

Was there any attempt to use that money for anything? ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #57

The signing statement was orders of magnitude away from what it was claimed to be. Igel Nov 2012 #65

Its already having an impact. DCBob Nov 2012 #46

This congress has no character it creates a tiger trap for the economy and then skips around it HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #29

It is unbelievable how congress gets away with so much lalalu Nov 2012 #38

If only it weren't true... HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #39

Right now Obama is holding all the cards. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #33

Good points. lalalu Nov 2012 #37

It is a cliff for people who will lose unemployment benefits One of the 99 Nov 2012 #34

Federal extended unemployment benefits, but not state benefits. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #35

Signing statement on what? One of the 99 Nov 2012 #42

On other stopgap legislation, allrevvedup Nov 2012 #44

Most states don't have the money One of the 99 Nov 2012 #47

Do you live in a red state? allrevvedup Nov 2012 #49

The state I live in is irrelevant. One of the 99 Nov 2012 #53

I understand this would be tough. lalalu Nov 2012 #36

You understand it would be tough? One of the 99 Nov 2012 #43

I can't help what you think. lalalu Nov 2012 #45

You're the one making this about tax cuts. One of the 99 Nov 2012 #48

My principles? It is the principles of this country at stake and lalalu Nov 2012 #50

So the principles of this country One of the 99 Nov 2012 #52

Your attempt to make this about hungry children is pathetic. lalalu Nov 2012 #55

But that is what this is really about One of the 99 Nov 2012 #56

Hungry children and laid off workers are regular scare tactics lalalu Nov 2012 #61

You keep making this about tax cuts One of the 99 Nov 2012 #62

There is no fiscal cliff lalalu Nov 2012 #63

Yes there is One of the 99 Nov 2012 #64

Don't fall for the scare tactics. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #51

I hope you are right One of the 99 Nov 2012 #54

I think they'll make a deal. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #66

Bump in the Road.... PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #58

It will hurt but not end those programs and if people lalalu Nov 2012 #59