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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:27 AM

18. irrelevant - Lincoln did not go to war over slavery, he "chose" to go war to "maintain" the Union

For decades we have supported and encouraged secession movements throughout the world:

Germany-Austria | Norway-Sweden | Russia-{Finland}-Ukraine-Latvia-Uzbekistan etc. | Yugoslavia-Croatia-Bosnia-etc.
Pakistan-Bangladesh | China-Taiwan | Vietnam | East Timor - West Timor ... and more

Yet many fail to see how hypocritical and undemocratic it is to deny US citizens our right to peaceful separation.

From another thread (and another DU member):

Lincoln once said that if it took keeping slavery in the south to save the Union, he'd do it. If it took freeing the slaves, he'd do it. If the status quo would keep the Union intact, he'd stick with the status quo.

Yes, he was morally opposed to it, but his concern was the Union, not slavery. Success at any cost.

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