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2016 Postmortem

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agnostic102

(198 posts)
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 04:51 PM Sep 2016

Jill stein at 4 percent in polls is going to kill us [View all]

Especially in close states like Virginia, North Carolina, Maine, New Hampshire, Colorado, Iowa, Ohio.

The truth is 90 percent of the votes jill stein is getting would automatically go to clinton if she wasnt in the race. For example in michigan a poll came out with clinton in a 3 point lead. Basically within a statistical tie. Jill is getting 4 percent of the vote! if you take her votes and add them to clinton even in this close pull it would put michigan out of play.

This coupled with trump voters turning out for him we could have a close election of just 1 or 2 points in critical states. If we automatically give up 4 points to stein we might lose these states like Colorado and Nevada etc.. We have to find a way to get jill stien out of this race. After the Mr. Khan incident hillary had moved into a solid 6-8 lead in many of these states so even losing a few points to jill would not have made a difference. In a very close election they can make all the defference.

I dont understand someone who claims to be a progressive like Jill stein can be okay with literally being responsible with putting trump in the white house. i truly cant comprehend this.

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When you get near election day Jill Stein will be probably get 0.5% votes MyNameIsKhan Sep 2016 #1
i truely agnostic102 Sep 2016 #5
The polls are out right wacky at this time MyNameIsKhan Sep 2016 #12
"Hillary campaign in disarray" zappaman Sep 2016 #39
Lol, trolls be trolling tonight Sugarcoated Sep 2016 #56
.5% is .5% too much... Jill Stein needs to get out of the race NOW. Every vote counts, as Gore found out. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2016 #18
Nader, same party, got almost 3%. So I"m not so sure. n/t pnwmom Sep 2016 #26
Stein is no Nader. joshcryer Sep 2016 #37
Stein, like Nader, is a 4 year cicada that only appears every four years. guillaumeb Sep 2016 #2
I disagree Glamrock Sep 2016 #3
Indeed, like 2012, they vote for purity. joshcryer Sep 2016 #38
Congrats on 900 posts! bigwillq Sep 2016 #40
Unremarkable Glamrock Sep 2016 #48
She won't get 4% in the GE VMA131Marine Sep 2016 #4
There is not a lot you can do about idealistic voters... unitedwethrive Sep 2016 #6
Best point made all week ! nt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2016 #63
Curious Uponthegears Sep 2016 #7
Johnson is as rightwing as the come, in terms of his economic policies. pnwmom Sep 2016 #29
As are the "moderate" GOPers Uponthegears Sep 2016 #32
Wrong. Moderate GOP people, Susan Collins for example, don't want to end Medicare or Social Security pnwmom Sep 2016 #49
And how many "Susan Collins" GOPers do you figure there are? Uponthegears Sep 2016 #58
Jeb Bush and many other top GOP don't want to end Medicare or Social Security pnwmom Sep 2016 #59
You keep ignoring the fact Uponthegears Sep 2016 #61
"We had hoped to attract by trashing 'The Left' during the primaries'. FUCK THAT BS 'MEME' emulatorloo Sep 2016 #41
Whatever Uponthegears Sep 2016 #45
And you believe that was a co-ordinated effort by "we"? emulatorloo Sep 2016 #46
Thank you for that explanation Uponthegears Sep 2016 #51
I handled first post badly, I was aiming my frustration at the idea emulatorloo Sep 2016 #64
Stein and Johnson will combine for 3% of the vote Charles Bukowski Sep 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2016 #19
Actually it's Gary Johnson who is taking the most votes from Clinton. This was reported on MSNBC politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #9
This! NWCorona Sep 2016 #16
I wonder if those are liberals/Democrats mythology Sep 2016 #24
No she isn't, and those who would vote for her, would not vote for Hillary anyway still_one Sep 2016 #10
Oh, btw Uponthegears Sep 2016 #11
It's Johnson who taking away votes jimw81 Sep 2016 #13
Thats very true but the Green Party just makes a better patsy tralala Sep 2016 #22
No, they wouldn't automatically go to Clinton Bradical79 Sep 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #15
Jil Stein is not even on ballot in NC- she didn't meet the qualifications wishstar Sep 2016 #17
Jill Stein won't get .5% of the vote alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #20
She was just making a fool of herself on Fox. She was nervous, inconsistent, and stumbling all over anneboleyn Sep 2016 #25
Only the hardest core of embittered lefties will vote for her alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #33
"Jill stein at 4 percent in polls is going to kill us" NCTraveler Sep 2016 #21
People are allowed to vote for whomever they wish. Agschmid Sep 2016 #23
They're also Charles Bukowski Sep 2016 #31
She's Ralph Nader in drag as far as I'm concerned Rocknrule Sep 2016 #27
I just want it to be over........ a kennedy Sep 2016 #28
Realclear politics has a great graph which shows the impact of a 4 way race Kilgore Sep 2016 #30
She is a kook. wisteria Sep 2016 #34
A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for trump Gothmog Sep 2016 #35
That is not true TSIAS Sep 2016 #44
I strongly disagree with your analysis and conclusions Gothmog Sep 2016 #57
Some people are still angry with Hillary marlakay Sep 2016 #36
Given that their anger at HRC was mostly based on false Internet memes, I just keep SMH emulatorloo Sep 2016 #42
There are ALWAYS third party candidates TSIAS Sep 2016 #43
Stein and Johnson likely have little impact on the GE bigwillq Sep 2016 #47
Stein's a Putinite so she knows exactly what she's doing RonniePudding Sep 2016 #50
That's dosg poop. Jill Stein showed at 2% in the last polls I saw, and that's probably high. napi21 Sep 2016 #52
Democracy Sucks. CBGLuthier Sep 2016 #53
Every analysis points to Johnson as Hillary's problem. Stop focusing on Stein! Arazi Sep 2016 #54
Jill Stein knows she cannot win, and realizes the only thing she will still_one Sep 2016 #55
Clinton will win NH. Stein's impact here will be non-existent. n/t NHDEMFORLIFE Sep 2016 #60
I'm not a Green, but people shouldn't be attacked for running third parties. Kentonio Sep 2016 #62
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