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Response to Welcome_hubby (Original post)

Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:21 PM

14. Not necessarily

In order to rig an election without it being detected, someone would have to rig each machine by only a very small amount to avoid any suspicious results, such as Romney significantly overperforming in Cuyahoga county. If the state went for Romney in a way that was inconsistent with pre-election polls and was out of whack with the national trend, it would raise suspicion. But it is possible to rig the machines to give just a little bit of a bump to a candidate without being detected.

The good news is, it does show that the amount that machine rigging can effect an election is minimal and would only make a difference in a very close election. On the other hand, Obama winning Ohio does not mean that the machines were not rigged at all. His margin there is surprisingly narrow compared to pre-election polls and compared to how other states that looked more competitive broke.

For example, the pre-election RCP average in New Hampshire was Obama +2, and he won by 5.8. In Iowa, the RCP average was O+2.4 and he won by 5.6. In neighboring Pennsylvania, the average was O+3.8 and he won by 5.2. Virginia was O+0.3 before the election; Obama won by 3. Nationally, Obama was +0.7 and his lead right now looks to be about 2.6.

In Ohio, by contrast, Obama won by 1.9% compared to a 2.9% lead in the RCP average.

Doesn't that seem a little odd? There are plenty of other plausible explanations, but I think it is definitely possible that there was some tampering that inflated Romney's numbers a little bit there and would have pushed him over the edge if the vote had been closer.

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