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103. I have a more plausible theory than your conspiracy theory bullshit

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Sat Nov 10, 2012, 01:00 AM

Nov 2012

Rove actually believed his "unskewed" numbers.

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Here is my theory about Rove's peculiar "Ohio Moment" on Faux [View all] BlueStreak Nov 2012 OP

Good point, Husted saw it slipping away flamingdem Nov 2012 #1

Holy shit! loudsue Nov 2012 #37

Do you a link (or a title) for the specific article(s) you're talking about at freepress.org? kath Nov 2012 #43

Link Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #46

Here's another link brush Nov 2012 #53

thanks for that link. some really juicy stuff there. Whisp Nov 2012 #84

I dont think he said he was on the phone with husted. woolldog Nov 2012 #2

He said he was on the phone with Husted. robinlynne Nov 2012 #27

I don't think so. LisaL Nov 2012 #73

I remember clearly. It was an important moment. robinlynne Nov 2012 #82

Let's look at the video shall we? woolldog Nov 2012 #89

well. the other man says: Karl was jsut on the phone with somebody . Rove says; the secretary of st robinlynne Nov 2012 #98

It was funny how the percentage of vote counted for Ohio stayed so long at 65% MightyMopar Nov 2012 #3

We've seen this before on DU. loudsue Nov 2012 #38

Affirmative. n/t Ghost Dog Nov 2012 #49

He still did bad things. DCKit Nov 2012 #4

I have been thinking along a similar line grasswire Nov 2012 #5

Or the gap was bigger than they anticipated, so their suppression/stealing wasn't enough. pointsoflight Nov 2012 #12

I believe you just described the 2008 election, exactly. robinlynne Nov 2012 #29

+1 Scuba Nov 2012 #56

in 2008 Firebirds01 Nov 2012 #71

Obama won OH by a larger margin in 2008 than in 2012. LisaL Nov 2012 #77

Rove, Inc. will knee-cap him if that's the case. loudsue Nov 2012 #40

It's Rove who'll end up as a stinking bag of gas floating down the Cuyahoga. LuvLoogie Nov 2012 #41

Rats, sinking ships, SubgeniusHasSlack Nov 2012 #6

I agree. But I also think that "software patch" that Husted put in that loudsue Nov 2012 #7

If that patch was truly a tabulation-only thing, that suggests the game plan was BlueStreak Nov 2012 #16

This was way too close for comfort. Don't forget that the lasting consequences of 2000 and 2004 are BlueStreak Nov 2012 #23

They actually never published it. It was all of the news organizations together who paid the robinlynne Nov 2012 #30

I had heard that the NYT actually did have a short article on it BlueStreak Nov 2012 #64

I wish Kerry had counted every vote in 2004. "gone into battle", as it were. robinlynne Nov 2012 #86

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #99

BlueStreak, that's way too coherent. byronius Nov 2012 #45

I Personally Believe 1ProudAtheist Nov 2012 #39

That would be great! marlakay Nov 2012 #48

That's exactly what my husband and I said GCP Nov 2012 #57

Oh please, oh please, oh please let Husted turn squealer and see Karl go to jail for bribery. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #47

I'm wondering also how Husted felt about having THE Ohio vote-stealing expert, John Kerry, in his patrice Nov 2012 #8

Glad Kerry was there..thanks patrice Cha Nov 2012 #22

Me too! He's a Democratic treasure! nt patrice Nov 2012 #95

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #100

Kick politicasista Nov 2012 #101

I'm not going to speculate on the cause, but the vote total in OH is clearly wrong. pointsoflight Nov 2012 #9

Remember... today's numbers don't include provisionals and some ABs farmbo Nov 2012 #60

Very possible.. I don't trust any of them karmaqueen Nov 2012 #10

You give Rove way too much credit gravity Nov 2012 #11

+1 DrToast Nov 2012 #18

No. We aren't giving him "too much" credit. And the billionaires gave him $400 MILLION loudsue Nov 2012 #31

Much of that was from Adelson. And there was a very simple reason for that. BlueStreak Nov 2012 #66

BINGO! WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #72

maybe rmoney cut off husted's credit card too early? niyad Nov 2012 #13

That is a good one! Tumbulu Nov 2012 #15

Chilling... Hermes Daughter Nov 2012 #14

Somebody should be impounding some of those ESS tabulation machines with the "experimental" patch BlueStreak Nov 2012 #17

I wish someone would do just that, and that Anonymous would blow the whistle somehow loudsue Nov 2012 #32

Anonymous is setting up a secure, open source whistleblower site starroute Nov 2012 #75

Thanks, Starroute. Very interesting. n/t Hermes Daughter Nov 2012 #105

Here is a link to Anonymous warning Kkkarl Rove loudsue Nov 2012 #52

I had not seen that. It is very troubling that we have to depend on BlueStreak Nov 2012 #65

That's not Anon! Anon is a friend of mine and Coyotl Nov 2012 #88

the suit filed against Husted KT2000 Nov 2012 #19

I'd like to think so. Holder hardly inspires confidence. BlueStreak Nov 2012 #24

Wouldn't walk out in the middle of it..only after everything had Cha Nov 2012 #20

Or perhaps, it was simply a moment of incompetence and desperation caught live on TV... targetpractice Nov 2012 #21

I don't think so. BlueStreak Nov 2012 #25

Rehearsing the walk thesquanderer Nov 2012 #61

Even in the edited clips we see now, it is obvious Z_I_Peevey Nov 2012 #63

I think that is definitely plausible. And when Rove threw his tantrum, that was the opportunity BlueStreak Nov 2012 #67

Ill will is more likely than incompetence, IMHO. BlueStreak Nov 2012 #26

You are too kind. robinlynne Nov 2012 #33

That makes no sense. alittlelark Nov 2012 #42

The DOJ Now Needs To Put Husted On The Hot Seat... global1 Nov 2012 #28

From your lips to God's ears. loudsue Nov 2012 #34

Anything like that must start with a new AG BlueStreak Nov 2012 #68

Is There Any Indication That Holder Will Be Replaced In This Second Term?......nt global1 Nov 2012 #85

Yes. He is being asked directly if he is staying on and he has been hedging BlueStreak Nov 2012 #94

They lied...They cheated... but they couldn't steal! world wide wally Nov 2012 #35

Agreed. hifiguy Nov 2012 #36

Two Words..... Sedona Nov 2012 #55

Could software installed on the machines flip vote counts? UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #44

I usually don't subscribe too much to conspiracy theories, but this one....I do.... FrenchieCat Nov 2012 #50

I live in Ohio and it's happened before PossumSqueezins Nov 2012 #51

I just cannot imagine why on earth, with *everyone knowing about that software silvershadow Nov 2012 #54

Thank you, Bluestreak, for putting in words everything I've been thinking GCP Nov 2012 #58

That does seem plausible. DCBob Nov 2012 #59

There may be some truth in your analysis, albeit ... Coyotl Nov 2012 #62

Strategy may be set long in advance, but it has to play out in real time BlueStreak Nov 2012 #70

Rove is not some kind of Magician or Wizard or All-Powerful Overlord Coyotl Nov 2012 #74

Are you new to DU? Have you read all the thousands of hours of research on election theft loudsue Nov 2012 #81

No, not new to DU Coyotl Nov 2012 #87

Don't even pretend that you've done more research on election fraud than has been done on DU. loudsue Nov 2012 #91

Actually not true. Coyotl Nov 2012 #93

Wow! If that is what you think, then you are misinformed, and loudsue Nov 2012 #96

Wow! Couldn't find even one link, as I suspected. Coyotl Nov 2012 #97

I agree. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #69

Or, Rove was just the idiot he's always been. Lots of right-wingers threw tantrums that night. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #76

They just can't count. jeepnstein Nov 2012 #78

I think it's possible someone found a way to unhack the machines. It's also possible that Dem OregonBlue Nov 2012 #79

This is 9/11 missiles on planes shit right here. PLEASE STOP WITH THIS ABSOLUTE FUCKING NONSENSE!! smorkingapple Nov 2012 #80

Yeah, yeah. We're making it all up. Bunch of conspiracy theorists. loudsue Nov 2012 #83

I guess you haven't seen this? GCP Nov 2012 #90

Put me down as one of the people who believe that Ohio was stolen in 2004 LongTomH Nov 2012 #92

if they were to tamper with election they should be in jail Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #102

I have a more plausible theory than your conspiracy theory bullshit RomneyLies Nov 2012 #103

Rove can go away into a cave now Batt1eRatt1e Nov 2012 #104

That's what I thought might have been happening too. Texin Nov 2012 #106