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20. Wouldn't walk out in the middle of it..only after everything had

Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:26 AM

Nov 2012

been done that possibly could be done to suppress and flip votes to romney. When that obviously wasn't producing desired results and it was OVER for rmoney in OHIO..then it was time to go. and, 10pm, you say? That's an early night.

Your analysis makes sense, BlueStreak.. will we ever know for certain what went down in Ohio in 2012 when Obama Won even though Karl Rove was dead set certain that mitt would emerge the winner?

What happened in 2004? Karl Rove on the horn with Ken Blackwell..and it all went a lot more smoothly? Dunno

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Here is my theory about Rove's peculiar "Ohio Moment" on Faux [View all] BlueStreak Nov 2012 OP

Good point, Husted saw it slipping away flamingdem Nov 2012 #1

Holy shit! loudsue Nov 2012 #37

Do you a link (or a title) for the specific article(s) you're talking about at freepress.org? kath Nov 2012 #43

Link Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #46

Here's another link brush Nov 2012 #53

thanks for that link. some really juicy stuff there. Whisp Nov 2012 #84

I dont think he said he was on the phone with husted. woolldog Nov 2012 #2

He said he was on the phone with Husted. robinlynne Nov 2012 #27

I don't think so. LisaL Nov 2012 #73

I remember clearly. It was an important moment. robinlynne Nov 2012 #82

Let's look at the video shall we? woolldog Nov 2012 #89

well. the other man says: Karl was jsut on the phone with somebody . Rove says; the secretary of st robinlynne Nov 2012 #98

It was funny how the percentage of vote counted for Ohio stayed so long at 65% MightyMopar Nov 2012 #3

We've seen this before on DU. loudsue Nov 2012 #38

Affirmative. n/t Ghost Dog Nov 2012 #49

He still did bad things. DCKit Nov 2012 #4

I have been thinking along a similar line grasswire Nov 2012 #5

Or the gap was bigger than they anticipated, so their suppression/stealing wasn't enough. pointsoflight Nov 2012 #12

I believe you just described the 2008 election, exactly. robinlynne Nov 2012 #29

+1 Scuba Nov 2012 #56

in 2008 Firebirds01 Nov 2012 #71

Obama won OH by a larger margin in 2008 than in 2012. LisaL Nov 2012 #77

Rove, Inc. will knee-cap him if that's the case. loudsue Nov 2012 #40

It's Rove who'll end up as a stinking bag of gas floating down the Cuyahoga. LuvLoogie Nov 2012 #41

Rats, sinking ships, SubgeniusHasSlack Nov 2012 #6

I agree. But I also think that "software patch" that Husted put in that loudsue Nov 2012 #7

If that patch was truly a tabulation-only thing, that suggests the game plan was BlueStreak Nov 2012 #16

This was way too close for comfort. Don't forget that the lasting consequences of 2000 and 2004 are BlueStreak Nov 2012 #23

They actually never published it. It was all of the news organizations together who paid the robinlynne Nov 2012 #30

I had heard that the NYT actually did have a short article on it BlueStreak Nov 2012 #64

I wish Kerry had counted every vote in 2004. "gone into battle", as it were. robinlynne Nov 2012 #86

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #99

BlueStreak, that's way too coherent. byronius Nov 2012 #45

I Personally Believe 1ProudAtheist Nov 2012 #39

That would be great! marlakay Nov 2012 #48

That's exactly what my husband and I said GCP Nov 2012 #57

Oh please, oh please, oh please let Husted turn squealer and see Karl go to jail for bribery. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #47

I'm wondering also how Husted felt about having THE Ohio vote-stealing expert, John Kerry, in his patrice Nov 2012 #8

Glad Kerry was there..thanks patrice Cha Nov 2012 #22

Me too! He's a Democratic treasure! nt patrice Nov 2012 #95

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #100

Kick politicasista Nov 2012 #101

I'm not going to speculate on the cause, but the vote total in OH is clearly wrong. pointsoflight Nov 2012 #9

Remember... today's numbers don't include provisionals and some ABs farmbo Nov 2012 #60

Very possible.. I don't trust any of them karmaqueen Nov 2012 #10

You give Rove way too much credit gravity Nov 2012 #11

+1 DrToast Nov 2012 #18

No. We aren't giving him "too much" credit. And the billionaires gave him $400 MILLION loudsue Nov 2012 #31

Much of that was from Adelson. And there was a very simple reason for that. BlueStreak Nov 2012 #66

BINGO! WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #72

maybe rmoney cut off husted's credit card too early? niyad Nov 2012 #13

That is a good one! Tumbulu Nov 2012 #15

Chilling... Hermes Daughter Nov 2012 #14

Somebody should be impounding some of those ESS tabulation machines with the "experimental" patch BlueStreak Nov 2012 #17

I wish someone would do just that, and that Anonymous would blow the whistle somehow loudsue Nov 2012 #32

Anonymous is setting up a secure, open source whistleblower site starroute Nov 2012 #75

Thanks, Starroute. Very interesting. n/t Hermes Daughter Nov 2012 #105

Here is a link to Anonymous warning Kkkarl Rove loudsue Nov 2012 #52

I had not seen that. It is very troubling that we have to depend on BlueStreak Nov 2012 #65

That's not Anon! Anon is a friend of mine and Coyotl Nov 2012 #88

the suit filed against Husted KT2000 Nov 2012 #19

I'd like to think so. Holder hardly inspires confidence. BlueStreak Nov 2012 #24

Wouldn't walk out in the middle of it..only after everything had Cha Nov 2012 #20

Or perhaps, it was simply a moment of incompetence and desperation caught live on TV... targetpractice Nov 2012 #21

I don't think so. BlueStreak Nov 2012 #25

Rehearsing the walk thesquanderer Nov 2012 #61

Even in the edited clips we see now, it is obvious Z_I_Peevey Nov 2012 #63

I think that is definitely plausible. And when Rove threw his tantrum, that was the opportunity BlueStreak Nov 2012 #67

Ill will is more likely than incompetence, IMHO. BlueStreak Nov 2012 #26

You are too kind. robinlynne Nov 2012 #33

That makes no sense. alittlelark Nov 2012 #42

The DOJ Now Needs To Put Husted On The Hot Seat... global1 Nov 2012 #28

From your lips to God's ears. loudsue Nov 2012 #34

Anything like that must start with a new AG BlueStreak Nov 2012 #68

Is There Any Indication That Holder Will Be Replaced In This Second Term?......nt global1 Nov 2012 #85

Yes. He is being asked directly if he is staying on and he has been hedging BlueStreak Nov 2012 #94

They lied...They cheated... but they couldn't steal! world wide wally Nov 2012 #35

Agreed. hifiguy Nov 2012 #36

Two Words..... Sedona Nov 2012 #55

Could software installed on the machines flip vote counts? UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #44

I usually don't subscribe too much to conspiracy theories, but this one....I do.... FrenchieCat Nov 2012 #50

I live in Ohio and it's happened before PossumSqueezins Nov 2012 #51

I just cannot imagine why on earth, with *everyone knowing about that software silvershadow Nov 2012 #54

Thank you, Bluestreak, for putting in words everything I've been thinking GCP Nov 2012 #58

That does seem plausible. DCBob Nov 2012 #59

There may be some truth in your analysis, albeit ... Coyotl Nov 2012 #62

Strategy may be set long in advance, but it has to play out in real time BlueStreak Nov 2012 #70

Rove is not some kind of Magician or Wizard or All-Powerful Overlord Coyotl Nov 2012 #74

Are you new to DU? Have you read all the thousands of hours of research on election theft loudsue Nov 2012 #81

No, not new to DU Coyotl Nov 2012 #87

Don't even pretend that you've done more research on election fraud than has been done on DU. loudsue Nov 2012 #91

Actually not true. Coyotl Nov 2012 #93

Wow! If that is what you think, then you are misinformed, and loudsue Nov 2012 #96

Wow! Couldn't find even one link, as I suspected. Coyotl Nov 2012 #97

I agree. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #69

Or, Rove was just the idiot he's always been. Lots of right-wingers threw tantrums that night. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #76

They just can't count. jeepnstein Nov 2012 #78

I think it's possible someone found a way to unhack the machines. It's also possible that Dem OregonBlue Nov 2012 #79

This is 9/11 missiles on planes shit right here. PLEASE STOP WITH THIS ABSOLUTE FUCKING NONSENSE!! smorkingapple Nov 2012 #80

Yeah, yeah. We're making it all up. Bunch of conspiracy theorists. loudsue Nov 2012 #83

I guess you haven't seen this? GCP Nov 2012 #90

Put me down as one of the people who believe that Ohio was stolen in 2004 LongTomH Nov 2012 #92

if they were to tamper with election they should be in jail Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2012 #102

I have a more plausible theory than your conspiracy theory bullshit RomneyLies Nov 2012 #103

Rove can go away into a cave now Batt1eRatt1e Nov 2012 #104

That's what I thought might have been happening too. Texin Nov 2012 #106