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2016 Postmortem

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brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 01:01 PM Aug 2016

Wasserman Schultz poised to beat Sanders-backed challenger [View all]

Politico

Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s summer from hell has been a hand-wrapped gift to her Bernie Sanders-backed primary opponent. But even her critics say it would take a miracle for the longtime Miami congresswoman and persona non grata of the progressive left to lose her seat in the Aug. 30 election.

The fallout from the embarrassing Democratic National Committee email leak last month was swift and severe, costing Wasserman Schultz her chairmanship on the eve of the party's national convention after five years in that job. There’s quite a ways between that, however, and losing reelection: A fixture of South Florida politics for nearly a quarter-century, Wasserman Schultz remains the prohibitive favorite to beat Tim Canova and return to the House for a seventh term, according to recent polling and Florida political operatives.

“As much as I would like to say otherwise, I think his chances are pretty slim,” said Ben Pollara, a Democratic political consultant who once worked for Wasserman Schultz but is now a critic.

“I think on the basis of demographics, it doesn’t matter who the challenger is or what the issues are, barring something like an indictment, it’s her district,” he said. Pollara manages United for Care, a group backing the medical marijuana initiative that Wasserman Schultz has fought against.


Personally, I think too much of Canova's campaign, and the drive of his out-of-State contributors was her role as DNC Chair, which I don't think the average district voter cared about.
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Good! She'll be a much-needed, seasoned and experienced ally in congress. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #1
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There's no need for anyone who supports private prison subsidies, payday usury, Ken Burch Aug 2016 #64
The voters disagree. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #66
She's only eight points ahead in the poll that was just released, so the voters may NOT agree. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #68
Eight points is eight points. There's a reason she's winning. She knows what her constituents want. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #76
How do you know that DWS is worth saving? Ken Burch Aug 2016 #77
Later rinse repeat. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #81
It's a safe Democratic seat. And the voters there aren't drug war extremists Ken Burch Aug 2016 #83
Looks like you'll have to deal with being disappointed again. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #87
You've got nothing to be contemptuous about towards progressives. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #112
You guys flatter yourselves ... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #122
I'm afraid I agree. Senator Sanders' great contribution was to Hortensis Aug 2016 #192
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #159
In my opinion, she makes a convenient and "safe" punching bag... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #162
This message was self-deleted by its author John Poet Aug 2016 #163
Or, maybe they don't see or characterize things the same way that you do. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #164
I would not be surprised if she eventually replaces Pelosi or Hoyer in the House. MADem Aug 2016 #188
But, but, but ... she's not pure! :-P NurseJackie Aug 2016 #194
I totally agree. She's just like Paul Ryan hollowdweller Aug 2016 #216
it's never good to confuse religion with politics. Bill USA Aug 2016 #115
I didn't mean "saving" in that sense. n/t. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #140
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Awww... I love you too, Chascarrillo. :-P NurseJackie Aug 2016 #135
Gone too fast, I would have said something "sweet", too. Nice guy, eh? George II Aug 2016 #136
This is why they keep losing. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #139
Who do you mean by "they"? Ken Burch Aug 2016 #141
The Hillary haters. How are they helping? NurseJackie Aug 2016 #143
I'm not a Hillary hater or a Stein supporter. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #150
The effort made for that "tiny number" would be better spent ... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #160
By "us", I meant the people doing the persuading, not the Bobs. I'm not a Bob. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #174
Actually, I noted your odd and awkward wording and gave you the benefit of the doubt. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #177
We're in that spot now. We're in a stronger place than any Democratic ticket in decades Ken Burch Aug 2016 #200
Stop being logical Armstead Aug 2016 #169
Well, the one doing the "screaming" is Trump, himself. MADem Aug 2016 #189
You need to stop. KMOD Aug 2016 #144
I'm supporting her now. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #145
Are you? KMOD Aug 2016 #146
Absolutely. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #148
I'm glad to see & appreciate the entire spectrum of people who are supporting HRC Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #151
Thanks. n/t. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #153
Not *directly* hostile, of course not. You're too smart for that. Well done, you! NurseJackie Aug 2016 #157
From a horrid little snake.... Armstead Aug 2016 #170
Winning is everything! Defeating the GOP is everything. GO TEAM GO!! NurseJackie Aug 2016 #172
Not even indirectly hostile. I don't have to support DWS to support HRC. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #176
It's 2016, not 1932. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #179
It's not "hate". It's legitimate disagreement on the issues. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #198
It's definitely "hate" ... an irrational fixation on a single high-profile symbolic target. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #203
You've said that when you've argued that voting against DWS hurts HRC somehow. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #205
You're no longer making sense. Take a break. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #206
Yeah but we might be at risk to lose the seat...we need that seat. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #209
It's a seat any Dem can win. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #212
so says you. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #213
The other point is this: Ken Burch Aug 2016 #214
I don't think DWS will serve in the cabinet. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #217
If not in the cabinet, she could be some sort of "czar"-or possibly chief of staff. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #218
I don't think so. she is a legislator and is interested in House leadership. nt. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #219
You wrote "coronated," which kind of exposes you as an HRC hater. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #187
I won't deny it. I supported Bernie in the primaries. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #199
NurseJackie is right, you ARE the fixated one. Fixated on spreading your Clinton hate. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #204
Strategic rather than emotional? Armstead Aug 2016 #168
We need strong Dems in congress. Nobody's perfect and you can't please everyone. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #171
I agree. skylucy Aug 2016 #126
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #158
Hillary and Obama both disagree with you. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #165
Good. lamp_shade Aug 2016 #2
Too bad. DWS is an embarrassment. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #3
If she does lose she can always go back to carrying water for payday lenders. nt Snotcicles Aug 2016 #4
And a shill for Republicans when it's expedient for her. n/t geardaddy Aug 2016 #57
Agreed. This is not a good look. eom Sorceress Aug 2016 #156
Good. It was sad to see people hate her because of the media's bias scscholar Aug 2016 #5
You are behind on your studies, Scholar. Wilms Aug 2016 #12
She is opposed because of her right-wing vies, not because of anything the media did. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #65
She is opposed because some think she caused Sanders to lose Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #117
Okay, Donald MadBadger Aug 2016 #222
I'm supporting Canova, with my money and time. Mika Aug 2016 #6
. Snotcicles Aug 2016 #7
+1 (nt) bekkilyn Aug 2016 #26
+1 VulgarPoet Aug 2016 #47
That is your right. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #118
I'm no great fan of BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #8
+1 KMOD Aug 2016 #11
Nice.. Grassy Knoll Aug 2016 #13
Thank You. His campaign was there for revenge. Not the heart of the District nor the misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #32
^^^ THIS ^^^ Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #53
More of Tim's donors in-state. It's not as though only out-of-state people had issues with DWS Ken Burch Aug 2016 #74
Link? Citation? Evidence? BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #79
It's been posted here before. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #84
I'll wait then, because I don't give credit for "I saw it around here somewhere." BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #95
Yet you give credit for the claim that Canova's campaign is an out-of-state anti-Florida Ken Burch Aug 2016 #100
I've done no such thing. And deflection won't change the fact that you made a false claim BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #106
I didn't make a false claim. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #110
"Most of Tim's money was in-state." Proven false by your own link. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #111
What matters is that Tim has more in-state donors than DWS. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #113
Again, deflection doesn't save you. What you claimed isn't true, verified by your own link. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #120
You're hairsplitting. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #123
Ken, you sound more like a demagogue than a progressive. LuvLoogie Aug 2016 #149
It's what FDR would say. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #152
Lobbyists are cool now aye? think Aug 2016 #180
^^^This!!! DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #93
Canova never had a chance. People in the district essentially think of him as a 'carpetbagger.' onehandle Aug 2016 #9
This ... BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #15
As long ad she's no longer running anything Glamrock Aug 2016 #133
DWS gets more out of district money than Tim. Nobody in the district cares about Ken Burch Aug 2016 #73
Link? tammywammy Aug 2016 #82
Canova is famous for his out of district money and nothing more in the 23rd district. onehandle Aug 2016 #98
This has nothing to do with HRC. I'm supporting HRC in the fall. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #101
DWS is famous for refusing to support other local House Democratic candidates because of her GOP think Aug 2016 #105
It doesn't help. We have too many RWers in Fl. Mika Aug 2016 #130
Canova's been forced to beg for votes on "Ballots and Bullets" nutbag Joyce Kaufman's radio show. Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #10
Awesome. Glad to see her overcome the bitter and petty forces who malign her. nt BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #14
God forbid people who remember the values of the Democratic Party, reaffirmed by FDR and LBJ FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #24
Who do you mean by "Empress with no clothes?" BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #50
Why does any DUer support a proven corrupt Democrat who supports payday lenders? Integrity anyone? George Eliot Aug 2016 #72
You know LBJ was massively corrupt, right? okasha Aug 2016 #132
And he accomplished massively good things for our society and millions. That's the reality. FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #166
You just made my point. Thank you. okasha Aug 2016 #184
I don't know what point you think I am making for you; why don't you spell it out. FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #190
Yet Nixon was (probably inadvertently) the best environmental POTUS of all time. PufPuf23 Aug 2016 #207
Again, what point are you trying to make? FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #208
That would be people who wanted Democrats roody Aug 2016 #33
The 23rd is very friendly territory for her. Tatiana Aug 2016 #16
It was also never clear that Canova could carry the district Recursion Aug 2016 #21
In the South... yallerdawg Aug 2016 #22
I understand. I'm not saying DWS needs to hate all Republicans. Tatiana Aug 2016 #54
DWS and Ros-Lehtinen McKim Aug 2016 #39
That's good. Payday lenders need a voice in congress. progressoid Aug 2016 #17
Excellent Coolest Ranger Aug 2016 #18
Good Loki Aug 2016 #19
As it should be Cary Aug 2016 #20
To me DWS is Rahm Emmanuel in heels. Larkspur Aug 2016 #23
This is a great analogy. Tatiana Aug 2016 #25
Both of them The Wizard Aug 2016 #29
Why reference their religion. Would you say the same for a Christian or Muslim politician Fla Dem Aug 2016 #45
yes I would The Wizard Aug 2016 #195
Both are opposed for their actions. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #102
Opposed not just for their actions but also for their hubris and contempt of the Dem base Larkspur Aug 2016 #107
Canova's run was a long shot from the beginning. MineralMan Aug 2016 #27
I'm deeply saddened, indeed! The 'Rahm Emmanuel in heels' analogy upthread is spot on. Purveyor Aug 2016 #28
The new DU rules will continue to be in effect KMOD Aug 2016 #31
Guess I won't last long then as there is only so much worthy news to ignore. I never did 'group Purveyor Aug 2016 #34
If supporting Democrats on Democratic Underground presents an undue burden on you Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #75
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #92
Equating DU with the Nazis just reflects poorly on you. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #96
Here. Educate yourself. Purveyor Aug 2016 #99
Support Dems. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #35
Yup! KMOD Aug 2016 #38
I support the Dems that I can support. n/t Larkspur Aug 2016 #43
Support Dems who support democratic values - rather. n/t xocet Aug 2016 #69
Are people allowed to point out crappy Democrats, buttressed with facts? FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #167
My understanding is that criticism is allowed. KMOD Aug 2016 #173
Fair enough. Thank you. What is "ATA", just making sure. FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #181
Oh, I see... "Asking the Administrators" FighttheFuture Aug 2016 #182
There's a forum for it. KMOD Aug 2016 #183
"She helped elect the first woman President." Yeah, some "tarnished" legacy there... BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #52
and the first black President. KMOD Aug 2016 #59
Yes. Refusing to support Democratic House candidates in her area due to her personal relationships think Aug 2016 #60
Link to support this? Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #210
Hell to pay? Are you hoping to punish people here for being Hillary supporters? That's not happening bettyellen Aug 2016 #196
would or could one of DWS supporters here tiredtoo Aug 2016 #30
Good luck with that bonemachine Aug 2016 #78
Good. I love DWS! nt LexVegas Aug 2016 #37
She is a solid loyal Dem vote for the House. Our Dem President will need it. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #40
Here's a heart breaker for you: "Democrats torn between party, GOP friends" think Aug 2016 #46
She's a strong voice on gun issues, lapucelle Aug 2016 #56
Didn't she tho! That convention ran like a well oiled machine. misterhighwasted Aug 2016 #61
Her gun stance doesn't outweigh her Republican views on trade, the drug war, payday usury Ken Burch Aug 2016 #71
I think she represents her area well. People try to bully her and it pisses me off bravenak Aug 2016 #131
+ a million! eom BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #155
Pay Day Lenders & TPP, CAFTA, NAFTA turbinetree Aug 2016 #41
Tim has more FL donors & $ than DWS Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #42
I forgot a donation link, Donate to Democratic Underground for Tim Canova FL-23 HERE Omaha Steve Aug 2016 #49
The sooner the Democratic party dumps DWS and her ilk the better off this country will be. Scalded Nun Aug 2016 #44
I support her, and I'm not the least bit ashamed. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #55
She opposes Medical Marijuana despite representing the most pro MM part of the state. Ridiculous. RAFisher Aug 2016 #48
Good for Debbie. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2016 #51
It was already a very tough race. It became dead in the water when Bernie latched on to it. SaschaHM Aug 2016 #58
She's only eight points ahead in the poll that was just release. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #70
I could do a nitpicking negative rundown about Bernie, but I'm not going to refight the primary. SaschaHM Aug 2016 #88
IF she's under 50% in that poll, her district may NOT like her anymore. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #89
Yeah, they would have acted like adults during the DNC and not have latched on to... SaschaHM Aug 2016 #94
I've said nothing personally hostile to you. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #97
Too bad. We need less like DWS and more like Canova in congress. nt Gore1FL Aug 2016 #62
Most of Canova's donations were in-state...DWS had MORE out-of-state donations. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #63
The latest poll showed her only eight points ahead. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #67
Good for her, I dont think her seat was in question, she worked hard to reelect President Obama Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #80
She's a convenient punching-bag. Just a proxy for the lingering Hillary Haters ... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #85
Yes she will. Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #86
This has nothing to do with HRC. DWS fights for the rich instead of the people. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #114
They get the candidate they prefer ... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #121
It's a close race. You may be the one who needs to cope. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #124
I'm not emotionally invested. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #125
Yeah, right. Ken Burch Aug 2016 #128
No ... It's my contempt for Hillary haters who use NurseJackie Aug 2016 #129
That is the truth. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #119
I hope Payday Debbie crashes and burns. white_wolf Aug 2016 #90
Anyone who does not support the brady bill fun n serious Aug 2016 #186
Canova is an asshole attacking DWS as not a true friend of Israel because she voted for the Iran seaglass Aug 2016 #91
He is a Likud puppy. Glad she is leading. nt glennward Aug 2016 #154
Maybe Canova will pull a Lieberman after the primary. rateyes Aug 2016 #103
She's Gone In January SoCalMusicLover Aug 2016 #104
Good. baldguy Aug 2016 #108
It appears Tad Devine and co have left Canova's campaign. seaglass Aug 2016 #109
She was treated unfairly and scapegoated. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #116
Her district knows how well she serves in Congress and will probably vote for her again. Sunlei Aug 2016 #127
Sorry to hear this dflprincess Aug 2016 #137
Voters elect the reps they like GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #142
By progressive I mean someone who identifies dflprincess Aug 2016 #197
The district went two to one for Clinton, no? bluedye33139 Aug 2016 #138
Yes, it is traditionally very blue and very liberal obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #191
K&R Jamaal510 Aug 2016 #147
That's too bad bigwillq Aug 2016 #161
Well, I don't want her back as DNC chair, but she seems to be working for her constituents auntpurl Aug 2016 #175
Good for Debbie Wasserman Schultz. stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #178
I have never delved deep into DWS voting record but... fun n serious Aug 2016 #185
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #202
Okay. Rex Aug 2016 #193
ImWithHerII oasis Aug 2016 #201
Leaked Emails Show DNC Staffers Keeping Close Eye on Tim Canova's Rise G_j Aug 2016 #211
A big who cares. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #215
Obliviously G_j Aug 2016 #220
It is in Florida Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #221
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