2016 Postmortem

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts) Tue Jul 26, 2016, 08:40 AM Jul 2016

Russia's Apparent Attempt To Hijack the U.S. Presidential Election Is the Biggest Story of the Year [View all]

If you're not furious about this, you're either not paying attention or you're completely missing the point.
CHEZ PAZIENZA 8 HOURS AGO

Let's just skip right to the point here: There aren't enough hyperbolic adjectives to truly and properly express just how big a deal it is that Russia is almost certainly behind the hack of the Democratic National Committee and that the goal of that hack was likely to throw the presidential election for Donald Trump.

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/07/putin-hijacking-the-presidential-election-is-huge/

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Russia's Apparent Attempt To Hijack the U.S. Presidential Election Is the Biggest Story of the Year [View all] workinclasszero Jul 2016 OP

FWIW, snopes doesn't seem to think Russia's involvement has been substantiated. merrily Jul 2016 #1

Apparently the FBI thinks there is something to it workinclasszero Jul 2016 #2

Yes! And it ought to be investigated. treestar Jul 2016 #47

Two things: (1) "something to it" and "suspects" is not the same as "Russia did this." merrily Jul 2016 #54

Oh I think it can and will be. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #5

Did I say it would not be proven conclusively? Please see Reply 54. Thanks. merrily Jul 2016 #59

Snopes political coverage is garbage. Kim LaCapria retweets Glenn Greenwald of all people. DanTex Jul 2016 #6

Sorry but this is not political coverage. It's determining whether evidence exists. merrily Jul 2016 #7

Yes it is. She's getting her info from Glenn Greenwald, ignoring credible sources. DanTex Jul 2016 #8

And I'm not surprised that you go immediately to baseless assumptions and ad homs. merrily Jul 2016 #9

Not baseless, you posted a link to yourself talking about how great snopes political coverage is. DanTex Jul 2016 #10

Yes ad homs and baseless assumptions. The Daily Banter's use of "apparent" is not substantiation. merrily Jul 2016 #11

Does trying to play down Russia's meddling in our elections make you fell better that Bernie lost? DanTex Jul 2016 #13

More ad homs, no link to any substantiation, though. That's what I thought. merrily Jul 2016 #14

The link is in the OP. Did you even read it? I doubt it, you prefer the Greenwald spin. DanTex Jul 2016 #15

Again, "apparent" Russian involvement is not substantiation. merrily Jul 2016 #17

LOL. So you only read the title. Figures. Yes, Greenwald and LaCapria are more your speed. DanTex Jul 2016 #18

Clearly ad homs and baseless assumptions are your speed. I not only looked at the Banter article, I merrily Jul 2016 #21

Clearly actually reading beyond headlines is not part of your routine. DanTex Jul 2016 #22

Jaysu, "almost certainly" is not a flat statement that Russia is involved. What part of that escapes merrily Jul 2016 #26

No, for the supporting evidence you have to read further, and follow the links to the other DanTex Jul 2016 #27

Um, no supporting evidence is not the issue. The issue is a flat, unequivocal statement that Russia merrily Jul 2016 #28

You are absolutely right, merrily. There is no more than weak circumstancial evidence Ghost Dog Jul 2016 #31

That is not what I said, Ghost Dog. merrily Jul 2016 #55

Of course supporting evidence is the issue. DanTex Jul 2016 #33

Well done. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #48

LOL! He insults me repeatedly, but can't prove his claim. merrily Jul 2016 #58

Please see Reply 54. merrily Jul 2016 #56

That's a lot of bullshit you're shoveling there, DanTex! John Poet Jul 2016 #61

The credible sources are the emails themselves. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #29

The content of the emails is irrelevant to the question of who hacked them. DanTex Jul 2016 #34

Quite the opposite. It is about the message not the messenger. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #36

Russia is meddling in our elections. That's a huge deal. DanTex Jul 2016 #37

I stopped using scopes as a good source when they DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #20

Thanks, but that does not relate to this instance. merrily Jul 2016 #24

merely that snopes is not a "good source" that uses critical thinking. DLCWIdem Jul 2016 #46

Yes, I got your point. There may be some flies on me, but not a swarm. merrily Jul 2016 #51

matching code from know russian hacks BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #53

Please see Reply 54. Thanks. merrily Jul 2016 #57

Yes, the Russians hacked the DNC - There is no doubt about that UCmeNdc Jul 2016 #62

Not sure which part of the edit to Reply 1 and Reply 54 were unclear to you. merrily Jul 2016 #64

And word is that Trump's campaign is being bankrolled by Russian banks. nt Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #3

WORSE than Watergate TrishaJ Jul 2016 #12

And, wikileaks be all denying it.. lol Cha Jul 2016 #4

Another possibility duncang Jul 2016 #16

Hey... workinclasszero Jul 2016 #19

Apparency is never a big story and often a lie to cover a truth. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #23

How much do you want to bet that it's Putin's troll army fueling places like Reddit's r/The_Donald? backscatter712 Jul 2016 #25

I wouldn't doubt it workinclasszero Jul 2016 #32

I agree .... it seems that this is the conclusion of all security analysts in and out ..... etherealtruth Jul 2016 #30

American media is not paying sufficient attention, and if posts/links at DU are any indication.... Hekate Jul 2016 #35

"...neither is the American Left." workinclasszero Jul 2016 #38

I appreciate you and the other handful of DUers who are keeping this topic going here. Hekate Jul 2016 #39

That's cause they are always the thief workinclasszero Jul 2016 #40

In order for it to blow open the media MUST pay attention and stop chasing shiny objects... Hekate Jul 2016 #42

True workinclasszero Jul 2016 #43

But will FBI investigations come in time to stop Nixon's (sic) election? Especially since Comey... Hekate Jul 2016 #44

That's a good question workinclasszero Jul 2016 #45

Interesting isn't it? RonniePudding Jul 2016 #49

Ok, so how does this not make our party look incompetent.....?? Sivart Jul 2016 #41

Y'all can start telling me I was right any time now Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #50

K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jul 2016 #52

I think Black Lives Matter lovemydog Jul 2016 #60

A lot of people here completely missing the point. baldguy Jul 2016 #63