2016 Postmortem

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts) Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:29 AM Jun 2016

Surprise: Bernie Sanders's Youth Revolution Loved Rallies More Than Actually Voting [View all]

Sanders energized the youth vote in a way that allowed him to dominate that voting bloc. The problem is, that voting bloc failed him when the time came to cast a ballot.
CHEZ PAZIENZA

This won't be about Bernie Sanders, per se. Bernie Sanders seems to be positioning himself to do the right thing in the coming weeks. What this means is that it's time to strike a conciliatory tone in the name of forging a unified front of decent Americans aimed at ensuring that Donald Trump and the morally bankrupt party sanctioning his quest for the White House do not succeed.

No, this will be about what it's been about almost since the beginning of Sanders's improbable rise: his rabid disciples.

Specifically, his supposed army of youthful revolutionaries; the political neophytes who formed a cult of personality around Sanders knowing little about how politics actually work; the people who still threaten to "burn it all down" because they didn't get their way; the meme-warriors who've spent the past 48 hours lashing out at those who've endorsed Hillary Clinton, including their former progressive hero Elizabeth Warren; the kids who insist their lack of presence in the general election, the result of their candidate not winning, will doom any Democratic effort.

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/06/sanders-youth-vote-didnt-show/

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Surprise: Bernie Sanders's Youth Revolution Loved Rallies More Than Actually Voting [View all] workinclasszero Jun 2016 OP

I remember there was much angst when Bernie fans saw that the poll data from younger voters ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #1

They would change the data to make it work for them. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #70

Who would have guessed THAT would happen? brooklynite Jun 2016 #2

Talk about sore winners... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #3

Stating facts = Bashing? workinclasszero Jun 2016 #6

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #8

Its a historical fact workinclasszero Jun 2016 #13

Quote: Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #33

+10000 AntiBank Jun 2016 #37

yep Sancho Jun 2016 #81

And there it is! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #89

Mature voters don't base their voting decisons on whether or not some anonymous person ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #31

In my view, on this case stating facts IS bashing. pangaia Jun 2016 #28

WELL-fucking-stated! Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #47

There is a lot of that here. pangaia Jun 2016 #50

I think in any election, it is important to examine what worked, and what didn't work. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #54

Autopsy is easy metroins Jun 2016 #58

In this case, and many, many, many others, pangaia Jun 2016 #59

OK, when should this examination happen? Perhaps doing it now is insensitive uponit7771 Jun 2016 #103

Apparently? grossproffit Jun 2016 #7

The convention's a month away... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #9

Post primary analysis is not bashing Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #21

The OP is NOT a Senator Sanders supporter... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #48

So only Sanders' supporters can do post primary analysis? LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #71

No, you missed the entire point... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #73

It is not bashing. It is providing historical information and what to expect. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #34

No, it's ABSOLUTELY bashing and VERY detrimental to Secretary Clinton's candidacy. Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #51

If anyone is driving votes away it is you making accusations. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #68

Highest unfavorability ratings for a Dem candidate in the last 50 years... Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #72

You are the one pushing this nonsense. And again the unfavorability ratings are in large LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #75

Her unfavorables are hers alone, NOT anything to do with Senator Sanders. Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #78

How does the OP bash SBS? lunamagica Jun 2016 #76

"How does the OP basn SBS?" Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #80

Typo. I fixed it. Forgive me? lunamagica Jun 2016 #84

Of course! Thank you for the clarification! Cooley Hurd Jun 2016 #85

This about his young supporters, not about bashing Sanders. Beacool Jun 2016 #97

With time your anger over your side winning will abide. Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #4

I said from the very beginning of this race frazzled Jun 2016 #5

The rallies were a poor attempt at generating a bandwagon effect. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #10

"But it's just that—optics—not a voter ID or get-out-the-vote strategy." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #15

Except of course in the 20+ States he carried, such as my State of Oregon. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #11

But let's look at those states frazzled Jun 2016 #23

My thoughts rickford66 Jun 2016 #12

She isn't trying to persuade anyone. She is calling for unity leftofcool Jun 2016 #14

I've always voted Democratic. rickford66 Jun 2016 #19

I don't know about unicorns MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #16

I guess you never really listened to him. rickford66 Jun 2016 #20

And what if the poster did? CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #38

I'm sure it's... tonedevil Jun 2016 #53

It's been there CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #60

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #67

Of course CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #69

Thanks for your... tonedevil Jun 2016 #74

I honestly tried MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #57

Apparently you really didn't listen. rickford66 Jun 2016 #87

Apparently you don't know if I tried or not MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #91

"not a peep on how to pay for it" rickford66 Jun 2016 #94

substance??? Clinton supporters mostly refuse to debate issues AntiBank Jun 2016 #41

Ok then Sanders supporters are mostly divorced from reality MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #61

apples and oranges, I am positing behaviour, which is AntiBank Jun 2016 #65

From the comments: I thought this was thoughtful auntpurl Jun 2016 #17

And that's the difference with the tea party allusions that were made in some senses Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #24

I always found it a little odd that a group of people who largely insisted they weren't Democrats TwilightZone Jun 2016 #62

Strawman Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #98

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #18

Goodness gracious. In_The_Wind Jun 2016 #22

Why should anyone care what we (young people) think if we don't vote? forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #43

Lol. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #25

yep - that was pretty obvious DrDan Jun 2016 #26

I have personal experience with this sad fact. JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #27

Crazy ain't it? workinclasszero Jun 2016 #30

Young voters aren't exactly welcomed to the polls.. Barack_America Jun 2016 #35

No JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #63

The Rally's weren't predominantly young people AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #29

Enough of the harsh post mortems geek tragedy Jun 2016 #32

It appears the goal is to drive people AWAY from her AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #36

They aren't going to vote then either. RB TexLa Jun 2016 #44

The election fraud won't be papered over by lame attempts to explain it away with implausible GoneFishin Jun 2016 #39

So why hasn't Bernie filed a legal complaint about this massive rampant cheating? workinclasszero Jun 2016 #40

just think objectively for a second what a conspiracy of this scale would involve drray23 Jun 2016 #102

more dismissive bashing of Sanders supporters. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #42

People are discussing the problem of young people failing to vote on a discussion board workinclasszero Jun 2016 #45

yeah, that's the spirit I was talking about. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #46

The inability to accept insightful analysis and criticism prevents improvement and growth Yavin4 Jun 2016 #52

How many were involved when the rules were drawn up? very few: Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #93

And rallies don't answer any of your points. Yavin4 Jun 2016 #95

I don't think 13M people attended Bernie Sanders rallies... tom-servo Jun 2016 #49

K&R....nt Henhouse Jun 2016 #55

A very important detail is that many who attended rallies were not of voting age. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #56

"went as a large group to many of the Bernie events" brooklynite Jun 2016 #64

So it looks like they won't be voting for trump Whimsey Jun 2016 #66

The Daily Banter ??????? Must be some rag from somewhere. libdem4life Jun 2016 #77

Nothing good ever comes out of rallies RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #79

All those rallies were the product of decades of not as flashy organizing and consciousness-raising forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #88

If you don't see a connection between this ... RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #90

Divisive. GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #82

It's bogus to imply that people who went to the rallies didn't vote. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #83

Stunning analysis: Bernie lost because not enough people voted for him. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #86

+1 (NT) Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #99

Jealousy and cognitive dissonance AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #92

Interesting..... Beacool Jun 2016 #96

CA turnout was less than predicted because AP declared HRC the winner the night before. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #100

Yeah, keep believing that. Beacool Jun 2016 #104

When college let out for the summer, the air went out of his balloon too. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #101