2016 Postmortem

pinebox

(5,761 posts) Fri May 27, 2016, 11:14 AM May 2016

Game Over: EmailGate Just Crippled the Clinton Express [View all]

Yup yup!
Seriously, this thing isn't going to go away. Now now, Not ever.
Hillary specifically told staff never to bring it up or mention it. She and her staff refused to answer questions. Hillary knew it was wrong and knowingly did this and that is shown in her outright arrogance when she didn't ask permission because she would have been told "NO". On top of that, Hillary was fully aware that the rules had changed from when Secretary Powell was SOS, whose mission was to bring the State Department up to modern times with using email.

Folks, she is toast.

http://observer.com/2016/05/game-over-emailgate-just-crippled-the-clinton-express/

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Game Over: EmailGate Just Crippled the Clinton Express [View all] pinebox May 2016 OP

She's toast. lagomorph777 May 2016 #1

She will receive a full pardon from Obama if necessary. -nt- NorthCarolina May 2016 #221

Hillary Is Done! Get Out The Golden FORK! It's NOT Going To Be Pretty Here On Out... But IT Is... CorporatistNation May 2016 #222

How many times can she be toast? NCTraveler May 2016 #2

It's like all those predictions puffy socks May 2016 #37

Perhaps she's like Prometheus. Each day eagles nosh on her and the next morning she is regenerated. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #53

Lol were you in a coma in 2008? People were calling here toast, then, too. WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #62

Decades. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #67

She's never been president. She ran once. It didn't go well for her. Toast. She's not president. WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #80

When did I ever say she was President? NCTraveler May 2016 #112

She's only got nine lives ... KPN May 2016 #71

The proclamation that it's over for her... NCTraveler May 2016 #76

Comey is getting a 2nd crack at her. Very rare opportunity for him. He's a repub. yodermon May 2016 #86

No, he will pull no punches. NCTraveler May 2016 #114

“a highly improper pattern of deliberate misconduct.” yodermon May 2016 #182

When did I say I trusted him? NCTraveler May 2016 #183

I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. yodermon May 2016 #187

I do not "trust" him in quotation marks either. NCTraveler May 2016 #189

He's an Obama appointee. HooptieWagon May 2016 #162

I've been hearing it on this site for at least nine months BainsBane May 2016 #96

She can be bernt toast. NV Whino May 2016 #124

Lol. Now you are just mocking Sanders supporters. NCTraveler May 2016 #133

The Bernouts know this is their only hope. JoePhilly May 2016 #142

If so, our hopes are rising. ChairmanAgnostic May 2016 #165

Those hopes are about to hit a ceiling. JoePhilly May 2016 #186

Typical. Expectorated. And fitting, given the caliber of your candidate. ChairmanAgnostic May 2016 #214

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #3

Welcome to DU... SidDithers May 2016 #6

Welcome to reality, Sid. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #216

Oh look. The zombie was PPR'd again... SidDithers May 2016 #218

Oh, DU always is so real...especially with R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #237

Try again. Darb May 2016 #8

Wonder if Hill knows she's done. Who will tell her and when? yourpaljoey May 2016 #4

Nobody tells Hillary anything!! That is part of her problem. Hiraeth May 2016 #5

I think she still believes she will be President - how will she react when she finds out? yourpaljoey May 2016 #12

Hope there is plenty of Ativan on board. Hiraeth May 2016 #25

I wonder how poor Huma is going to break it to her... Bob41213 May 2016 #36

maybe she can be president of something else. Cobalt Violet May 2016 #68

Cell-block president ??? pdsimdars May 2016 #192

Naw, she'll get pardoned & be the President of Goldman Sachs... Yurovsky May 2016 #235

Time for an intervention? pdsimdars May 2016 #191

Cool story, bro. nt onehandle May 2016 #7

Yeah, real cool story. notadmblnd May 2016 #227

It's all over but the shouting One Black Sheep May 2016 #9

Cool story. But here is what is really going to happen. StevieM May 2016 #174

The only really accurate thing in that is your concluding sentence: leveymg May 2016 #204

for some reason this picture came to mind corkhead May 2016 #10

To a partisan maybe, Darb May 2016 #13

Have you seen her honestly ratings? Bob41213 May 2016 #23

You mean a "poll" of her honesty? Darb May 2016 #41

poll after poll, month after month, year after year. . . .it's her M O. pdsimdars May 2016 #194

That is hella photo! yourpaljoey May 2016 #16

Yeah puffy socks May 2016 #43

P E R F E C T !!! pdsimdars May 2016 #193

You should have given us a Pantload Alert on that one. Darb May 2016 #11

But mommy, _____ did it too. B Calm May 2016 #18

Please. Darb May 2016 #44

yeah...because no one would think to set up their own server Press Virginia May 2016 #57

You in her head too? Darb May 2016 #93

Who needs to be in her head? It's what happened. Press Virginia May 2016 #117

You know her intent? Darb May 2016 #123

yes. She put it in an e-mail. She was concerned about privacy. Press Virginia May 2016 #129

Says you, oh great and powerful swami. Darb May 2016 #134

No, she actually put it in an email. No "swami" needed. Schema Thing May 2016 #138

Ok, oh great and powerful. Now tell me, Darb May 2016 #140

No. Says the e-mail cited in the IG Report released on Tuesday. Press Virginia May 2016 #143

So you know her intent? Darb May 2016 #172

Does it change the fact that it exists? Nope Press Virginia May 2016 #185

In that astroturf thing of Brock, I wonder if people get paid for the NUMBER of comments pdsimdars May 2016 #197

Oh I'm done with him. I saw another one of these last night Press Virginia May 2016 #198

Plus, this one has a yellow button and I can see why passiveporcupine May 2016 #217

Here you go, perfect for you pdsimdars May 2016 #199

true - and it doesn't usually work for kids either -- not with me, not with my mom karynnj May 2016 #78

More partisan hackery. Darb May 2016 #88

So, saying that Kerry did the same before he was told it was illegal - when he did not is not smear? karynnj May 2016 #95

Another mind reader. Did you ever think that she might have been mistaken? Darb May 2016 #100

If she didn't know, she should not have made this accusation karynnj May 2016 #110

Accusation? Darb May 2016 #131

Kerry has dealt with the RW since 1971 - far longer than HRC nt karynnj May 2016 #136

Maybe. But I don't think to the same extent. Darb May 2016 #139

Hillary was a very obscure, very minor member of the watergate team - Kerry was front and center karynnj May 2016 #169

Ok, you win. Kerry has been badgered. Hillary hasn't? Darb May 2016 #177

What she intended to do was to avoid the legitimate scrutiny by the Congress and media karynnj May 2016 #184

Here's the problem with continuously saying she makes "Mistakes" Mother Of Four May 2016 #223

She doesn't want the inconvenience of carrying two devices XemaSab May 2016 #232

Even worse when blank is actually the lawless Bush junta. TheKentuckian May 2016 #233

4.....powell, rice, clinton, kerry Jack Bone May 2016 #20

Try again. Darb May 2016 #50

nope not SOS, but I did carry a TOP SECRET security clearance. Jack Bone May 2016 #79

She "could have"? Really? Darb May 2016 #85

secrecy....innit ironic? nt Jack Bone May 2016 #89

Not privacy? Darb May 2016 #103

there's no privacy for public officials...'specially doing public buisness! Jack Bone May 2016 #115

Is there something missing? Darb May 2016 #119

That's right, the wording should not be "may have", it should be "she did" notadmblnd May 2016 #231

When I worked for the gov't hollowdweller May 2016 #122

The government system is glacial when traveling the world 24/7? Darb May 2016 #135

In reality, HRC wants it to be also Powell, Rice, and Kerry karynnj May 2016 #55

Kerry came after. Albright was before it was integral, and quite frankly, Darb May 2016 #75

HRC apparently though Kerry relevant enough she lied about him karynnj May 2016 #91

That report means exactly jack squat. Darb May 2016 #97

sure..... jham123 May 2016 #141

A pass? The look forward coalition is now trying to blame liberals for a pass on the TheKentuckian May 2016 #236

thanx for clearing that up... Jack Bone May 2016 #83

Actually, it makes my case. Darb May 2016 #113

email is a "new" phenomena jham123 May 2016 #145

In a historical context, yes. Darb May 2016 #151

Historical? jham123 May 2016 #155

You are so smart. Maybe you should be President. Darb May 2016 #160

Not about me jham123 May 2016 #167

They all had private, unsecured servers? Matt_in_STL May 2016 #24

No, they used the RNC server, which is worse. Darb May 2016 #51

Which SOS used the RNC server? Matt_in_STL May 2016 #60

The entire Bush admin used the RNC server to keep their shit secret. Darb May 2016 #69

Oh, so it had nothing to do with what Hillary did. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #73

Pure partisan hackery. Darb May 2016 #107

When you've got nothing else, go personal. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #111

No, sorry, you are going with partisan hackery. Darb May 2016 #118

Partisan Hackery? jham123 May 2016 #150

Yes, partisan hackery at is bone-gnawing best. Darb May 2016 #157

WTH.... jham123 May 2016 #164

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #168

Hillary has done a fine...... jham123 May 2016 #176

Please don't be obtuse. Darb May 2016 #180

Now "I'm" the one being Obtuse?? jham123 May 2016 #181

No they didn't --- Rove and other people working on the 2006 election used the RNC karynnj May 2016 #102

If you say so. Darb May 2016 #108

Which one set up a server in their basement then claimed it had Press Virginia May 2016 #54

Uh, did she break the law? Or are you just getting the vapors? Darb May 2016 #61

We don't know yet. The FBI hasn't announce anything as of yet. What we DO KNOW Press Virginia May 2016 #72

More partisan hackery. Darb May 2016 #82

The IG specifically says there was no request by HRC to use a private server Press Virginia May 2016 #126

If you've got something to say, Darb May 2016 #144

I do.... jham123 May 2016 #153

Stay content in your ignorance Press Virginia May 2016 #154

Darb... Mother Of Four May 2016 #226

It's at a maximum...warning red. Surya Gayatri May 2016 #58

The report does not say that Kerry ignored protocols, it says that he FOLLOWED them karynnj May 2016 #63

EXACTLY! jham123 May 2016 #158

You know better than that. I know you do. merrily May 2016 #84

Oh, it's a pantload all right. Darb May 2016 #173

You know better than that. I know you do. merrily May 2016 #178

Y ah, and the rules never changed from Colin's time ChairmanAgnostic May 2016 #170

Better go back and READ what the rerport actually said, pdsimdars May 2016 #195

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #14

sez you? corkhead May 2016 #22

Hey! That poster just joined this morning to make sure everyone knew where they belonged. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #28

Says the guy with 5 posts! lol pinebox May 2016 #27

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #32

And now he is the poster with zero posts. Matt_in_STL May 2016 #38

lol yup. pinebox May 2016 #49

Remember John Schindler, the conservative talking head, retired NSA spook, JTFrog May 2016 #15

Not to mention the publication in question is owned by Donald Trump's son-in-law oberliner May 2016 #26

That poster has dumped enough conservative right wing propaganda onto DU to JTFrog May 2016 #35

Yep...toast... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #17

I'm gonna wait until the FBI actually says something. apnu May 2016 #19

I agree apnu. saidsimplesimon May 2016 #109

Damn, when GoT gives us life lessons... we should be worried. (nt) apnu May 2016 #116

The source of this is a newspaper published by Donald Trump's son-in-law oberliner May 2016 #21

Link? I looked into the source and couldn't find anything? pinebox May 2016 #29

It's the fucking disclaimer at the end of the article? Did you read the article you posted? JTFrog May 2016 #39

The NY Observer is owned by Jared Kushner... SidDithers May 2016 #40

not much room at the top of the pyramid for either side. Hiraeth May 2016 #30

Well, either her campaign and career are over... Orsino May 2016 #31

What happens if Hillary gets indicted after she's nominated? left-of-center2012 May 2016 #33

She'd be impeached. pinebox May 2016 #46

Nominated, not elected, was the question. Darb May 2016 #52

Um what? mythology May 2016 #90

He said after she was elected pinebox May 2016 #94

You can only be impeached for alleged crimes committed while in office. Cali_Democrat May 2016 #209

It's so yesteryear aspirant May 2016 #34

Better believe it!...nt SidDithers May 2016 #42

Condi Rice didn't use email, if this ig believes that i have some nice trump vitamins for him MattP May 2016 #45

Even if she's toast, Bernie won't be nominee dcbuckeye May 2016 #47

The DNC oligarchy has already proven they are out to lose this election B Calm May 2016 #56

Can you tell us how the GOP will destroy Bernie? pinebox May 2016 #65

How about a 10X daily loop of Bernie promising to raise taxes on the middle class redstateblues May 2016 #120

Go for it. pinebox May 2016 #130

Bernie's the only one who can win it. What have you been smoking. pdsimdars May 2016 #200

Ok. zappaman May 2016 #48

Meh. Nothing will happen to her over it - not legally anyway . . . Triana May 2016 #59

+1 great post! B Calm May 2016 #66

Not the same. Watch this please. pinebox May 2016 #81

Tx for the info. Triana May 2016 #101

Welcome :) It's a helluva interview pinebox May 2016 #104

Wierd SwampG8r May 2016 #219

Even weirder SwampG8r May 2016 #220

Bizzaro world pinebox May 2016 #225

Hillary is the only SOS who had a private server. merrily May 2016 #106

Do you know the difference between a SERVER and an email ACCOUNT? pdsimdars May 2016 #203

Your sanctimonious, patronizing condencension is unnecessary Triana May 2016 #212

It was neither sanctimonious or patronizing. YOUR post indicated that you conflated them. pdsimdars May 2016 #238

Disclosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, the publisher of Observer Media. kwassa May 2016 #64

Wish I'd known that to begin with. Ugh. pinebox May 2016 #74

Well there you go. Triana May 2016 #121

I don't believe it but could you imagine if this egomaniac took down the entire country because she WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #70

Kickin' for the truth! Faux pas May 2016 #77

Unrec. Spreading Trump propaganda from Observer.com FSogol May 2016 #87

Thanks for the kick :) pinebox May 2016 #92

Your propaganda has a best if used by date of 6/14/16. Enjoy! FSogol May 2016 #98

I think you perhaps meant "your"? pinebox May 2016 #99

What happens then? We will no longer be allowed to scrutinize candidates? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #127

Yeah, only republicans will be able to scrutinize "our" candidate mindwalker_i May 2016 #159

Yep. Trump is well known for his gentle, courteous, demeanor. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #161

Oh man, you almost owed me a keyboard for that one! mindwalker_i May 2016 #171

pinebox, now come on buddy, get real, here's what I mean pdsimdars May 2016 #206

lemme see. Is this version #1348 or #1349 of the email saga that was supposed to sink Hillary? Sheepshank May 2016 #105

The train wreck was caused by an overloaded baggage car. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #125

good one Throd May 2016 #137

brilliant again pdsimdars May 2016 #205

"If you're winning and you know it then your face will surely show it" ucrdem May 2016 #128

Donald Trump's son in laws newspaper leftynyc May 2016 #132

Ask yourself that question and BNR & then we'll talk. pinebox May 2016 #148

Cherrypick? leftynyc May 2016 #163

Yes you're cherry picking. pinebox May 2016 #207

Linking to a Trump family member website is cheaper than sending donations directly to Trump ... JoePhilly May 2016 #146

LOL!!!! Beacool May 2016 #147

I tend to breathe a lot, air is good pinebox May 2016 #149

Please, some of you folks are just too funny. Beacool May 2016 #152

Straws? You mean that thing called "Meanwhile in the real world..." pinebox May 2016 #156

If there's an indictment, then I'll worry. Beacool May 2016 #166

Question is - when will the FBI findings of their criminal investigation be revealed? EndElectoral May 2016 #175

Right. That's why I don't understand the Clinton's supporters la-dee-daah attidute on this. yodermon May 2016 #188

Nice try... TeacherB87 May 2016 #179

Weak on national security is okay. B Calm May 2016 #190

Apparently to some. EndElectoral May 2016 #196

come on, it's only the presidency of the United States of America Cobalt Violet May 2016 #202

You forgot to put the "sarcasm" smiley in your message. pdsimdars May 2016 #208

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. pinebox May 2016 #210

couldn' resist Demsrule86 May 2016 #201

Here you want more sources? pinebox May 2016 #211

I believe the word you are looking for is "penis" notadmblnd May 2016 #230

She campaigned being strong on national security, what a joke! B Calm May 2016 #213

INSANE post. RBInMaine May 2016 #215

Ya, so insane that it holds water. pinebox May 2016 #224

Do you goofballs ever consider who wrote the bullcrap you keep slinging? bullimiami May 2016 #228

Is it hard to read replies to see this was discussed already? pinebox May 2016 #229

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein May 2016 #234

Me too. That would be the perfect timing for that bomb. I hope the FBI doesn't time it like that pdsimdars May 2016 #240

Deja vu loyalsister May 2016 #239