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2016 Postmortem

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silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
Thu May 19, 2016, 03:43 PM May 2016

Why Clinton’s Claim Of Having 3 Million More Votes Than Sanders Is A Total Lie [View all]

Why Clinton’s Claim Of Having 3 Million More Votes Than Sanders Is A Total Lie

In an article posted to the New York Daily News, Activist and writer Shaun King made a startling revelation which could change the way we view the entire Democratic primary race.

Since the tide has turned in the direction of Hillary Clinton, the candidate has put much emphasis on her apparent lead in the popular vote. According to Hillary Clinton, she leads Sanders by more than 3 million votes nationwide. This is the number that we hear cited commonly at events and in corporate media. This number helps to give legitimacy to Clinton’s campaign in the face of Sanders’ populist message. Though Sanders may complain about how the system is rigged and wonder why Superdelegates aren’t more loyal to their constituency, Clinton has always had the power of the popular vote behind her.

But what King revealed in his groundbreaking article is that the 3 million vote advantage Clinton holds is a lie.

This is due to the fact that primary races don’t just feature voters going out and casting a ballot. Instead, several states opt to hold caucuses where a group of representatives vouch for their candidate. The candidate with the most representatives in the room wins in that district, and the candidate which wins the most districts is the winner of the state.

more: http://trofire.com/2016/05/19/hillary-clintons-claim-3-million-votes-sanders-lie/

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In regular math it's 3 million. In #berniemath, who knows. YouDig May 2016 #1
You didn't even read the article now, did you...yeah you didn't...you are right.. insta8er May 2016 #10
I already saw the movie. YouDig May 2016 #11
Ah, ok sorry that explains everything...no reason to think yourself. Getting your "news" dished out insta8er May 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author panader0 May 2016 #39
Washington was a caucus. The turnout is low. YouDig May 2016 #43
Washington State's presidential primary is May 24 pokerfan May 2016 #72
Well in Washington state Andy823 May 2016 #73
Thats a great movie! workinclasszero May 2016 #69
that one above is paid by the post... lakeguy May 2016 #25
America can only get the truth from pro Bernie sources. Got It. oasis May 2016 #34
There's no need to read it..The OP title says it all... asuhornets May 2016 #41
If I were a Bernie supporter Arneoker May 2016 #120
Remember, April Showers Bring May Flowers tomm2thumbs May 2016 #91
This is Bernie math - 3 million voters are 3 million votes - how disgusting and stupid. MariaThinks May 2016 #18
In Bernie math thats minus 3 million votes for Hillary workinclasszero May 2016 #68
The OP was posted at 2:43 PM. bvar22 May 2016 #70
You think this is the first time I've seen #berniemath? YouDig May 2016 #71
Remember, April Showers Bring May Flowers tomm2thumbs May 2016 #89
The vote total doesn't take into account griffi94 May 2016 #2
Also the negative votes of Hillary voters that deep in their heart want Bernie but don't know it yet YouDig May 2016 #4
OK... quickesst May 2016 #20
It also doesn't take into account Arneoker May 2016 #122
None of those states would be worth 3 million votes or more KingFlorez May 2016 #3
Yup. Agschmid May 2016 #7
I'll add that Washington has it's non-binding primary next week KingFlorez May 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #31
Neither does already once rejected democratic politicians in GEs notadmblnd May 2016 #62
Blocked KingFlorez May 2016 #66
Blocked. I don't have time for delusional Hillbots. nt silvershadow May 2016 #83
I musta hit a nerve with that one. notadmblnd May 2016 #110
Bye snort May 2016 #133
Adding caucus state totals does not significantly cut into Clinton's lead onenote May 2016 #95
More Fuzzy Math Meteor Man May 2016 #104
I guess voter purges is a sure thing to win an election... Bohemianwriter May 2016 #119
Yes, when fuzzy math doesn't work, try lying Arneoker May 2016 #124
Really? Bohemianwriter May 2016 #128
Finished last in debate class? onenote May 2016 #129
Project much? Bohemianwriter May 2016 #130
Lots and lots and lots of words onenote May 2016 #134
Apparently, Hilary supporters have problems reading... Bohemianwriter May 2016 #139
I guess Bernie would prefer that all his voters who tweeted their votes be counted also Txbluedog May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #32
Weak tea coming from another newbie MattP May 2016 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #58
Well when your only point of contention is someone sign up date... Agschmid May 2016 #61
Maybe they were a lurker, and is that the only argument you can come up with? Arneoker May 2016 #125
OK, maybe it's only 2.8 Million. Then, again, maybe the demographics in a lot of those states Hoyt May 2016 #6
Those white an rural states don't equal 3 million. Sanders supporters are trying everything to . . . brush May 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #33
Hate? What hate?!!! PeaceNikki May 2016 #42
dismiss then PaulaFarrell May 2016 #64
While I don't think the relatively small number of caucus goers will make a dent in the numbers... eastwestdem May 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #35
Youre new yourself everybody starts somewhere MattP May 2016 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #59
sorry but he/she has been here nearly a year PaulaFarrell May 2016 #65
Why does it matter anyways? Hav May 2016 #111
It's because there is a suspicion some are paid trolls PaulaFarrell May 2016 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #142
Apparently you are too Arneoker May 2016 #126
You may want to edit your stats... sheshe2 May 2016 #141
HRC only counts the votes that HRC counts. dchill May 2016 #9
They all count griffi94 May 2016 #17
well no not millions and millions PaulaFarrell May 2016 #67
I am sick and tired of the Sanders campaign pointing out FACTS! pdsimdars May 2016 #48
+1. silvershadow May 2016 #84
is any of this going to matter in the GE? oldandhappy May 2016 #13
Everything coming from Hillary's campaign turns out to be a lie AgingAmerican May 2016 #14
Only when their lips are moving. HooptieWagon May 2016 #23
got links to hillary clinton saying any of those things? nt msongs May 2016 #40
Her CAMPAIGN surrogates certainly did. HooptieWagon May 2016 #44
and the all time classic . . dodging sniper fire pdsimdars May 2016 #49
Yeah, math is a corporate shill !!! uponit7771 May 2016 #50
Pretty much madokie May 2016 #131
So you're counting as votes...those who didn't...vote? randome May 2016 #15
Calm down Corporate666 May 2016 #21
800 million?! LOL! randome May 2016 #57
It was horseshit the first time she said FlatBaroque May 2016 #22
Interesting Ferd Berfel May 2016 #24
So, 3m lead in actual votes cast = lie. "Sanders is ahead" with no basis in reality = truth. TwilightZone May 2016 #26
3m lead + 1 FBI investigation = too close to call until she is exonerated. She hasn't been. silvershadow May 2016 #27
Here you go... pkdu May 2016 #28
Even Sanders doesn't dispute this. He always claims in his speeches that he has 9 million votes lunamagica May 2016 #29
Thank you. For some reason they like to scream it from the rooftops like it means something. nt silvershadow May 2016 #30
Thanks for letting us know that in a democracy Arneoker May 2016 #127
K & R AzDar May 2016 #36
Thank you! nt silvershadow May 2016 #37
oh look shaun king bragging about the most un-democratic form of elections nt msongs May 2016 #38
Bernie Math PeaceNikki May 2016 #45
And these kind of things are the crucial facts pdsimdars May 2016 #46
+1 silvershadow May 2016 #47
Let's see what happens in the Washington primary Txbluedog May 2016 #51
Washington ISUGRADIA May 2016 #74
Can you blame them? Who in their right minds counts votes by caucuses?...Nevermind. nt silvershadow May 2016 #85
+1 GreatGazoo May 2016 #132
Lol...try as they might the results are what they are beachbumbob May 2016 #52
He will do just as he as succinctly and professionally stated he would do. Finish this primary so silvershadow May 2016 #54
It's not a secret, and it doesn't change the fact that 3 million more people have voted for her. CrowCityDem May 2016 #53
Yes, Clinton is winning the popular vote — by a wide margin Gothmog May 2016 #60
The popular vote doesn't win primaries. The delegates choose, and many are not bound silvershadow May 2016 #86
Then the premise of your own thread is wrong Gothmog May 2016 #90
You might take that up with the author, then, if you are unsatisfied with what I have presented. nt silvershadow May 2016 #93
Actually GM Uponthegears May 2016 #103
The Broletariate does bs math, believes in Loch Ness monster The Second Stone May 2016 #63
"The Broletariate" workinclasszero May 2016 #75
I'm totally stealing that. Gomez163 May 2016 #77
IKR? workinclasszero May 2016 #78
Good one Comrades! redstateblues May 2016 #81
Bros of the world, slack-off! The Second Stone May 2016 #96
"Bros of the world, slack-off!" workinclasszero May 2016 #102
Benghazi! Benghazi! The FBI will prove the secret email server The Second Stone May 2016 #106
The contempt... Bohemianwriter May 2016 #123
Because math has a Hillary bias. Gomez163 May 2016 #76
THAT's the Big Lie everybody is talking about. Octafish May 2016 #79
Thank you. nt silvershadow May 2016 #87
That is very true. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #94
Oh geez puffy socks May 2016 #80
The point of this is to try and minimize the perception of Sanders' support. Maedhros May 2016 #82
Exactly. This whole primary has been a stage-managed event straight out of Corporate PR vs. silvershadow May 2016 #88
But what the wise (yeah right) Shaun King fails to factor in beaglelover May 2016 #92
Do you even bother to apply critical thinking to the articles you link to? onenote May 2016 #97
Do you ever give any critical thinking to supporting a candidate under current FBI silvershadow May 2016 #98
So I guess the answer to my question is no, you don't. onenote May 2016 #99
Read it however you will. Your non-answer and snide original remark tell me all I need to know. nt silvershadow May 2016 #100
and your posting of articles that can't be defended by you tells me everything I need to know. onenote May 2016 #107
One only needs to silvershadow May 2016 #108
The real world doesn't think that Bernie should get credit for 71 percent of 7 million onenote May 2016 #113
Oh? Aren't those the rules we agreed on? nt silvershadow May 2016 #114
I don't know what rules you play by. onenote May 2016 #115
You are just kidding right? The_Casual_Observer May 2016 #101
Another astute and probative commentary by The_Casual_Observer FlatBaroque May 2016 #137
I was hoping it was adjusting based on the exit polls. /nt trudyco May 2016 #105
No, it's not. MineralMan May 2016 #109
K&R CentralMass May 2016 #112
More Bernie Math. In the real world it's 3 million more. Lil Missy May 2016 #117
What makes me wonder... Bohemianwriter May 2016 #118
More delusional conspiracy theories. RBInMaine May 2016 #121
Shaun King, #2 Sanders shill (as no one can top HA Goodman) Tarc May 2016 #135
OK..thanks for letting us know... asuhornets May 2016 #136
Lies. Clinton business as usual. 99Forever May 2016 #138
I love your signature line! :D nt silvershadow May 2016 #140
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