2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

(47,209 posts) Mon May 2, 2016, 01:04 PM May 2016

Sanders quote: Often "a child has an old bitch of a teacher (and there are many of them)..... [View all]

"Often "a child has an old bitch of a teacher (and there are many of them) or pehaps (sic) he simply is not interested in school and would rather be doing other thing (sic)," Sanders wrote in his column, "Cancer, Disease and Society," for an alternative publication called The Vermont Freeman."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/29/politics/bernie-sanders-own-words/

That's pretty interesting, huh?

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Sanders quote: Often "a child has an old bitch of a teacher (and there are many of them)..... [View all] bettyellen May 2016 OP

It's how he made money since he couldn't hold down a regular job Sheepshank May 2016 #1

Couldn't, or didn't want to? I'm going with the latter. Maru Kitteh May 2016 #22

Oh, being a writer isn't a regular job? anigbrowl May 2016 #70

Did you read the part that said that he probably wasn't paid for his articles? CajunBlazer May 2016 #138

From 1969. Forty-seven years ago. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #2

Interesting that such a "liberal" could also be so very sexist. Not shocked you hear shit like bettyellen May 2016 #8

Couldn't find anything from the 1940's? TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #11

He was a grown ass man when spewing that foolish sexism. Spewing that sexism was his job. bettyellen May 2016 #12

Oh, please. You're looking unusually foolish. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #18

Comparing this to an unpaid parking ticket? SMH bettyellen May 2016 #23

Uh-oh. Another scolding from the teacher. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #26

So...you agree with his ideas about women "scolding". Wow, some people never grow up. bettyellen May 2016 #31

If the scolding fits, wear it. apcalc May 2016 #133

LOL. Nope. bettyellen May 2016 #134

So like Bernie, you hate teachers too? Maru Kitteh May 2016 #66

And little kittens, fuzzy ducklings, and ice cream. TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #100

The women's movement gaspee May 2016 #78

Could explain why legitimate wins- and legit voters are summarily dismissed... bettyellen May 2016 #79

One may imagine that should a Goldwater Girl label from 1964 be yet valid in 2016, this is as well. LanternWaste May 2016 #14

Funny how gaspee May 2016 #81

He doesn't change...remember that is the draw to him. Sheepshank May 2016 #55

The CNN article is fairly recent, and there are more recent quotes out there that have... George II May 2016 #181

Incidentally, that's a year AFTER Hillary Clinton was a "Goldwater Girl" that's been posted... George II May 2016 #184

At least he didn't support Goldwater nt firebrand80 May 2016 #3

This^^^ NWCorona May 2016 #4

Who knows what else he supported when he was SIXTEEN YEARS OLD? pnwmom May 2016 #10

Or Write the TPP or vote for Iraq Invaision or Ferd Berfel May 2016 #16

do you know what the military was like before don't ask don't tell? Buzz cook May 2016 #39

It didn't last very long did it? Ferd Berfel May 2016 #40

Huh? Buzz cook May 2016 #49

Exactly! This, the "flag burning" and abortion restriction issues brought up are ignorance bettyellen May 2016 #56

DURING the civil rights movement, no less! nt vintx May 2016 #61

2016 - 1969 = 47 AZ Mike May 2016 #5

LIES. Not anti-gay, but for civil unions as opposed to marriage. The Clintons had the first truly bettyellen May 2016 #7

It was anti-gay, period. Prism May 2016 #53

I do not believe for a moment that the Clintons are homophobic. They have done more to promote LGBT bettyellen May 2016 #161

Oh, so suddenly you don't care about social justice Prism May 2016 #174

Oh baloney. You do not represent the LGBT community's judgement on the Clintons. bettyellen May 2016 #177

But it supports his long history... scscholar May 2016 #151

Lol. AZ Mike May 2016 #152

Take this and writings on women's rape fantasies RandySF May 2016 #6

The only thing disturbing TheCowsCameHome May 2016 #9

He didn't write these things RandySF May 2016 #15

how about just saddened at the lenghts some of you will go to twist things? n/t Bodhi BloodWave May 2016 #41

This shit again? Snippets taken out of fully literary context, granted poorly constructed. TheBlackAdder May 2016 #13

Lord have mercy, I'd hate to see what Aerows May 2016 #20

That is why you and me are not running for anything. HA. bettyellen May 2016 #33

You really don't remember article you wrote in your thirties? NCTraveler May 2016 #72

To be correct, if you're into that... dchill May 2016 #80

I believe his rape fantasy writings were in his thirties. nt. NCTraveler May 2016 #91

Is that a different horse... dchill May 2016 #92

No. I'm kind of partial to my horse. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #155

I know, right? Frustrating, isn't it? NurseJackie May 2016 #63

I don't see this as being any more relevant than Hillary being a "Goldwater Girl" when she was young gollygee May 2016 #17

Hillary referred to African Americans as Super Predators in much more recent history berni_mccoy May 2016 #19

No. She didn't. (eom) StevieM May 2016 #30

Talk to BLM... They haven't been calling her out on this for nothing. berni_mccoy May 2016 #46

Only if you think ultra violent drug dealing gang members are all black. And you'd be wrong. bettyellen May 2016 #36

Ask BLM what they think about it (as they've been calling her out on this) berni_mccoy May 2016 #47

Your post was inaccurate. The most violent drug gangs in NYC and LA were not POC.... bettyellen May 2016 #52

Not inaccurate. She was clearly referring to the AA community. And I've heard Hillary Fans berni_mccoy May 2016 #54

she should apologize because it is a shitty way to refer to ANY HUMAN being. but to equate blacks w bettyellen May 2016 #59

Only stupid bastard ass'd racist think Super Predators are exclusively black. Dumb ass'd racist too uponit7771 May 2016 #145

And yet, news media and popular culture- (which both Clinton's were very well aware of) loyalsister May 2016 #82

All of this ignores that their focus was increasing penalties for VIOLENT criminals only. bettyellen May 2016 #89

That what they told the CBC, who had reasonable concerns loyalsister May 2016 #98

All BLM thinks that? REALLY?! Some people will make any excuse after a pure racist rant uponit7771 May 2016 #144

This is false on its face, only stupid ass'd racist think blacks are super predators uponit7771 May 2016 #142

Desperation from Camp Weathervane. Scuba May 2016 #21

lol, in 1969 he used offensive language. Hillary is still using offensive language: Vattel May 2016 #24

It's not a word, it is an attitude. a very sexist, resentful and woman blaming attitude. bettyellen May 2016 #38

By that logic, in 2016 as opposed to 1969, Clinton has a very racist, resentful, immigrant blaming Vattel May 2016 #117

Is illegal immigrants a slur now? " Illegals" is, but II has a legal meaning.... bettyellen May 2016 #126

"Illegal immigrant" is offensive, and even Hillary has apologized for her use of that expression. Vattel May 2016 #136

Uppity people suck, don't they Hillary? lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #120

So you're trying to put today's connotation on a word used 47 years ago? hobbit709 May 2016 #25

that is not "a word"- it is a nasty attitude toward women in authority.... and quite telling he did bettyellen May 2016 #28

Where you at, my Canesfan? bettyellen May 2016 #27

Hello Canesfan May 2016 #32

I have the honor of your first post! bettyellen May 2016 #35

An honor indeed Canesfan May 2016 #42

And you have an avatar already! Well done! GD and GDP are the busiest.... and the AA and Lounge the bettyellen May 2016 #45

Hired another intern? U4ikLefty May 2016 #172

Yeah, my dozen years here were all an elaborate ruse to eventually get paid! How clever you are to bettyellen May 2016 #179

I sure did find the mail. Canesfan May 2016 #175

Writers.... CompanyFirstSergeant May 2016 #29

Reading this article makes it clear that there is plenty of difference between StevieM May 2016 #34

what kind of candidate defends a child rapist by sexulaizing a the victim - a 12 yr old girl? azurnoir May 2016 #37

Crickets from the fanclub on this, as per usual... n/t LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #86

Yeah, my kid had one of those basselope May 2016 #43

one of what? bettyellen May 2016 #75

" old bitch of a teacher" basselope May 2016 #150

Hippy punching and red baiting as Hillarians proudly march to rightwing tunes. n/t ieoeja May 2016 #44

"Often "a child has an old bitch of a teacher (and there are many of them)" workinclasszero May 2016 #48

I think most teachers are pretty good and caring. book_worm May 2016 #50

Yes teachers doing their best in an imperfect system- it sucks to see them blamed for something that bettyellen May 2016 #65

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #51

God help us if the attitudes we had in a different time and at such a young age Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #57

If Hillary is not allowed to evolve- why should Bernie? bettyellen May 2016 #58

I know you arent talking to me Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #60

I'm just riffing on what you said. They are both imperfect candidates in my book. bettyellen May 2016 #62

It's refreshing to know someone tells the truth every so often. Vinca May 2016 #64

my oldest daughter had one of those and ya know what? azurnoir May 2016 #67

So- that makes sexist slurs okay all of a sudden? WOW. bettyellen May 2016 #69

everyone in the room who worked for the school system were women 2 were AA and 1 was Native American azurnoir May 2016 #85

that doesn't excuse the slur. bettyellen May 2016 #90

did you know or observe the teacher in question? She had retired by the time this conversation azurnoir May 2016 #99

would you defend the slur if it was racial- and tell me that an awful AA truly deserved it? bettyellen May 2016 #101

you seem to be the one smearing 2 AA women and a Native American women azurnoir May 2016 #104

smearing people for using sexist slurs? that is not how it works. they sullied themselves. bettyellen May 2016 #107

you seems to be screeching about it but go ahead smear PoC for speaking their minds azurnoir May 2016 #110

I'm super calm, but so sorry to get your blood boiling, LOL. Screeching my ass. bettyellen May 2016 #112

I'm enjoying this watching a Hillary supporter try to gain points by bashing Hillary's firewall azurnoir May 2016 #114

I will gladly, and calmly bash anyone who uses sexist slurs. Yes, indeed. bettyellen May 2016 #116

it's your call but a teacher who discourages learning based on a child's race azurnoir May 2016 #122

no one is "open game" for slurs among progressives. bettyellen May 2016 #123

we're talking about what women AA teachers said about a white teacher who discouraged AA children azurnoir May 2016 #124

A slur is a slur is a slur. Two wrongs do not make a right. You can hate the teacher without bettyellen May 2016 #127

so you compare 2 AA women to Palin and Coulter, because of what they said about a bigoted teacher? azurnoir May 2016 #146

Nope- I compared Palin and Coulter to the bigoted teacher. Slurs are ALWAYS bad. ALWAYS. bettyellen May 2016 #147

Not interesting at all nt Depaysement May 2016 #68

As a white male American in 1969 he was no doubt "of his time". Nye Bevan May 2016 #71

How is that offensive comapred to Hillary's bulshit: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #74

she tried to find something nice to say at a funeral. I hear she goes to weddings and events where bettyellen May 2016 #76

That was after the funeral, and it was not 'something nice to say' it was a vile misuse of Bluenorthwest May 2016 #84

It was in reference to the funeral. Your extreme outrage - and not towards Warren for bettyellen May 2016 #87

I note that your comments are all personal smears of me. Interesting choice, to distract from Bluenorthwest May 2016 #93

Noting your outrage is a smear? If I look at your posts about Warren will I find outrage that bettyellen May 2016 #96

This was so long ago, it was back when Hillary was a Goldwater girl. nt silvershadow May 2016 #77

I've not said anything negative about Bernie. cwydro May 2016 #83

Lol. That article was published KPN May 2016 #88

It is- they are both guilty of some thinking that looks archaic now. bettyellen May 2016 #97

Sanders' policy ideas remind me of the work of a ... Kang Colby May 2016 #94

It's NOT ok to use old sources against Bernie. But it IS ok to do the same against Hillary wyldwolf May 2016 #95

Wasn't this from back when Hillary was a proud Goldwater Republican? Attorney in Texas May 2016 #102

I think he was totally grown up at that point- not a teenager. A little old to still be resenting bettyellen May 2016 #103

So if this was 47 years ago, how long ago did Hillary advocate for discrimination against LGBT equal Attorney in Texas May 2016 #106

both Clintons advocated for incremental changes that have helped bring us to where we are now.... bettyellen May 2016 #132

Don't lie. He didn't express resentment women for doing their jobs. Vattel May 2016 #125

Mistreating? No - boys who did not feel like being taught are not being mistreated by bettyellen May 2016 #130

No, that was his other example. The "old bitch" reference was to cases where even if the child Vattel May 2016 #141

that i snot what the quote says? bettyellen May 2016 #149

yes, it is Vattel May 2016 #157

How is that less sexist? bettyellen May 2016 #158

nevermind Vattel May 2016 #159

it isn't- it simply gives no reason for slurring many women educators so harshly. bettyellen May 2016 #160

No, not interesting. shireen May 2016 #105

this is denigrating hard working women as b*tches. not exploring the politics of sexuality. bettyellen May 2016 #109

you're totally taking these writings out of context shireen May 2016 #113

And if he were referring to a male professional he might have used a terms like "bastard" Armstead May 2016 #118

asshole would be a better choice than a slur. BTW, what are female bastards called? bettyellen May 2016 #121

I guess you're unfamiliar with the Clintons' colorful use of language in private Armstead May 2016 #108

I'm real familiar with how much RW rumors are suddenly the truth for some here. bettyellen May 2016 #111

I've seen examples of it...at least from Bill Armstead May 2016 #115

I don't have a problem with her having a "temper" or using dirty words.... bettyellen May 2016 #119

I had one in 3rd grade. Ilsa May 2016 #128

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #129

From July 2nd, 2015 Bernie Sanders said .... Jackilope May 2016 #131

how did congress address this "toxic testing"? Bernie voted for it, so I guess he was lying to you? bettyellen May 2016 #148

How many innocents died in Iraq, Libya, and Honduras because of this comment? Karmadillo May 2016 #135

got it- sexism is not enough of a problem- for YOU. your priorities should be everyones. bettyellen May 2016 #139

You're a poor mind reader, but if you're this worked up about a several decades old Karmadillo May 2016 #140

no, it is part of a pattern - of avoiding "identity politics" to attack RW assholes into the fold... bettyellen May 2016 #143

In 1969, artislife May 2016 #137

Why post this? flobee1 May 2016 #153

Sanders is very much in till the convention, apparently. I doubt Hillary will feel the need to go bettyellen May 2016 #154

Ya. He really doesn't like women, especially if there is any kind of authority. The B. Nt seabeyond May 2016 #156

Vermont has not sent a single congressperson or senator to Washington in US history Maru Kitteh May 2016 #180

Was this before or after he chained himself to a black woman Tiggeroshii May 2016 #162

His civil rights protests - in whatever form, were in college only so this would be years later..... bettyellen May 2016 #166

Bernie sucks. That is all. nt BreakfastClub May 2016 #163

One of the many reasons my union didn't endorse him. Starry Messenger May 2016 #164

Ridiculous. The term has more than one meaning. Live and Learn May 2016 #165

he was calling female teachers "b*tches" - why pretend he was talking about things? You don't even bettyellen May 2016 #167

Not at all. If that were the case he would have said so. Live and Learn May 2016 #169

Nope, it is sexist to refer to people as a b*tch. What a cheesy desperate bit of spin. LOL bettyellen May 2016 #178

No need to go there. moriah May 2016 #168

I went to high school in the 1980s Eric J in MN May 2016 #170

Was Bernie bad? Shall we bring him to heel? U4ikLefty May 2016 #171

And this is on CNN ... nolawarlock May 2016 #173

What bullshit. Article trots out and mischaracterizes that old essay too. pat_k May 2016 #176

He's still evolving on womens issues. nt LexVegas May 2016 #182

A woman who had no career except for writing crock of shit stuff like this would never be considered bettyellen May 2016 #185

The longer Bernie refuses to accept reality the more weird shit we are bound to learn nt BootinUp May 2016 #183

Good GOD the desperation wafting off this thread CrawlingChaos May 2016 #186

Obvious ally? What has he DONE besides cosign other peoples legislation? When has he ever stuck his bettyellen May 2016 #187