2016 Postmortem

DCBob

(24,689 posts) Mon May 2, 2016, 12:15 PM May 2016

Bernie should get out now while the getting is good. [View all]

Seems to me Bernie's political clout is about a high as it going to be and will drop off significantly as he loses most of the remaining states. June 7 could be a real disaster if he loses NJ, NM and CA all on the same day. Winning the tiny delegate states of ND, SD, & MT will be seen as meaningless compared to those 3 big delegate states he will likely lose.

Bernie has more leverage now to negotiate something significant rather than waiting until he gets blown out June 7th. A smart politician would get out now and make the best deal he can get. If he waits, he might not even get a seat in the back of the room.

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Bernie should get out now while the getting is good. [View all] DCBob May 2016 OP

What are you talking about? Bernie has all of us, and we're not giving up. Avalux May 2016 #1

Sure.. but dont you want make the most of what Bernie has accomplished? DCBob May 2016 #4

Then she won't get much votes AgingAmerican May 2016 #6

Hillary is hiding her use of a phony "health care plan" to hide the WT0 war on public services Baobab May 2016 #29

I'm not sure if it was you, Baobab, who sent me a link to the GATS agreement, but someone PatrickforO May 2016 #57

They never had the votes for single payer in 2009 brush May 2016 #60

Sorry, but I'm gonna have to dispute your claim. Do you remember your history? When FDR was elected, PatrickforO May 2016 #63

No. There were never the votes for single payer in '09. brush May 2016 #66

Well, I hear what you're saying, but to me the 'real deal' is that PatrickforO May 2016 #85

You cannot forget lancer78 May 2016 #89

Yes. brush May 2016 #91

Almost a vote on single payer in 2009 and the author of that paper was organizing it BUT on August 9 Baobab May 2016 #64

Preaching to the choir here brush May 2016 #69

http://www.pnhpillinois.org/pipermail/activists_healthcareil.org/2009-August/000156.html <<< Read it Baobab May 2016 #71

The House was never going to decide it. brush May 2016 #74

Do you think Nick Skala's DEATH on August 9th was NATURAL? Baobab May 2016 #81

read my post from just now a bit down Baobab May 2016 #68

Trump is already beating her Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #76

No, it won't tonyt53 May 2016 #18

Bernie has doen nothing to wash money through down ticket dems. frylock May 2016 #35

Wow aren't you pretentious! Avalux May 2016 #43

This isnt about Bernie Baobab May 2016 #65

So what's the next move after Clinton clinches? brush May 2016 #59

If this was about him, maybe. Bernie has lots of faults, but profiting from his Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #2

Not "profiting".. but negotiating for a speaking spot or elevating his issues in the platform. DCBob May 2016 #10

If Hillary shuts him out of the convention, it would be much worse for her than him. aikoaiko May 2016 #42

Did you see the polling that just came out in California? DCBob May 2016 #44

Whether this ends with Bernie commanding 45% or 40% of delegates, his "leverage" is the same. aikoaiko May 2016 #82

See, I'm talking more significant if we are going Monty Hall. TheKentuckian May 2016 #80

Not so fast...front page msn.news. I know, it's "false" if it doesn't show HRC ahead, but still... libdem4life May 2016 #3

Rasmussen?? DCBob May 2016 #5

Surprised it took 4 minutes. I know, it's the Clinton Bubble. n/t libdem4life May 2016 #21

So in the "Bernie Bubble" Rasmussen is cool?? DCBob May 2016 #27

I linked to an article by the MSM. It punctures a sacred creed. libdem4life May 2016 #30

Rassmussen has always been off. Always. nt fun n serious May 2016 #7

10 minutes. Must be a slow internet connection. libdem4life May 2016 #22

You do know Rasmussen is a right-favoring site, right? brush May 2016 #61

Bernie isn't in it for political clout or money unlike some others. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #8

You dont get what I am saying.. DCBob May 2016 #12

Bernie doesn't want or need your crumbs. Live and Learn May 2016 #16

What you consider "crumbs"... others might consider vital or significant. DCBob May 2016 #19

'Others' meaning the establishment. They will be lucky to get any crumbs in the endgame. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #38

This is truly a disgustingly pathetic post. nt NorthCarolina May 2016 #9

Post removed Post removed May 2016 #11

You guys are funny! DCBob May 2016 #14

You're not. HERVEPA May 2016 #17

Take the source into account. frylock May 2016 #36

I've been saying that since NY. CrowCityDem May 2016 #13

Yep. If he goes for broke.. he's likely to go broke. DCBob May 2016 #15

Like a seat in the back of the room at the convention. tonyt53 May 2016 #20

Go Bernie liberal from boston May 2016 #28

Bullshit, Joe Lieberman actively campaigned for McShame including a prime time speaking spot at the TheKentuckian May 2016 #75

Not if all the people lancer78 May 2016 #90

You wish. Probably didn't see his Press Conference. libdem4life May 2016 #23

Ego and vanity and a quest for power can impair judgement. NurseJackie May 2016 #24

You noticed. 20 years and counting, an impeachment, now a libdem4life May 2016 #32

Take Hillary's vote for IWR and her use of a private mail server, for example. frylock May 2016 #37

Negotiate for what? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #25

Maybe get rid of the super delegates for the next election. DCBob May 2016 #46

This has never been about Bernie 99th_Monkey May 2016 #26

Lol, you hill fans sound more desperate daily. Nt Logical May 2016 #31

Oh Gosh! Just like Seinfeld:A Candidacy About Nothing SujiwanKenobee May 2016 #33

Get out before the Indictment Faerie arrives? frylock May 2016 #34

Why? He's got nothing to lose and everything to gain. Vinca May 2016 #39

He's got a lot to lose.. leverage. DCBob May 2016 #45

I think you're underestimating the zeal of his movement. Vinca May 2016 #49

The movement has zeal but the candidate is fading. DCBob May 2016 #50

I got plastered last night Skink May 2016 #62

False, he's losing more than just the primary now uponit7771 May 2016 #88

Will he raise a stink at the convention when he can't flip SDs? oasis May 2016 #40

Doesn't make sense. Your "now" is arbitrary... Orsino May 2016 #41

Bernie is starting to get blown away in California polls workinclasszero May 2016 #47

Could be. He has lost some of leverage already with that poll. DCBob May 2016 #48

What is the problem with Bernie staying in? Give it up. Skwmom May 2016 #51

Its a win-win situation. DCBob May 2016 #52

Hey, Bob! MrMickeysMom May 2016 #53

Hey Mom! DCBob May 2016 #56

You've defined the criteria by which you feel the Democrats can win.. MrMickeysMom May 2016 #73

Bernie should stay in the race 3hummingbirds May 2016 #84

You're hilarious Biaviians May 2016 #54

so, you agree with clinton oldandhappy May 2016 #55

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They'll brush him aside regardless of when he leaves Armstead May 2016 #67

You seem to think Bernie's Revolution is going to stop at some point. It's ongoing, my friend. Zen Democrat May 2016 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author TimPlo May 2016 #72

65% is not near enough. He would need something like 80% DCBob May 2016 #77

In 2008 I noticed that Hillary stuck around until the end Rosa Luxemburg May 2016 #78

It was much closer plus she had more supers than Obama. DCBob May 2016 #79

Yesterday I attended a California District 24 caucus with 300+ people to elect Bernie delegates Piedras May 2016 #83

I'll be sure to tell him. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #86

Thank you! DCBob May 2016 #92

Nope pat_k May 2016 #87