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2016 Postmortem

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Aerows

(39,961 posts)
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 01:10 AM Apr 2016

"We want something different!" ... Hillary. [View all]

"That's why we are going to vote for the same DNC candidates we've been voting for since 1992!"

You guys want Clinton as the nominee? You will probably get her. Do you think what you will get is going to be anything different than what you have already gotten?

The trouble is that the decision to do the same damn thing over and over again affects all of us. She doesn't even pay lip service to the idea of holding her feet to the fire. She mocked Sanders voters in a recent interview, effectively saying that she will not do anything to court the voters that support him.
You honestly believe she is the harbinger of change and will fight the tough battles against Republicans?

If you do, I don't want the hear it come November 2016.

I sure as HELL don't want to hear it a year into her presidency in the event that she is elected.

I hope Bernie hangs in there until the last possible second, because there are so many things up in the air right now, anything could happen.

I don't want to hear one person yell Nader or blame the Left. Hillary makes Al Gore look like an attractive and exciting candidate.

I voted for Gore in Florida - George Bush was not my fault. The very clear evidence of fraud stank to high heaven there. The very clear evidence of election fraud during this primary makes things look even worse for the GE.

Say it with a straight face - George Bush won fairly and squarely. There was no evidence of election fraud. You know what happens when you ignore the past and excuse, even gloat, about it because in the present time you believe it aids your candidate? We aren't anywhere near the GE yet.

Keep doing the same thing and keep on expecting a different result.

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Amen! TM99 Apr 2016 #1
Well said. agracie Apr 2016 #2
Hillary will be picking the next 3/4 Supreme Court Justices. oasis Apr 2016 #3
Hillary Clinton said on national television Aerows Apr 2016 #8
Bernie also was a Johnny come lately on marriage equality (not gay marriage BTW) dsc Apr 2016 #50
Again, you are taking that completely out of context. Sparkly Apr 2016 #79
Excuse me but at this point it is awfully difficult to take Aerows Apr 2016 #80
Excuse me, but I feel the same way. Sparkly Apr 2016 #82
-_- Aerows Apr 2016 #83
You posted a video of a radio show or some nonsense. Listen to the question and the answer. Sparkly Apr 2016 #85
Yeah, that'll be payback time for Goldman Sachs. senz Apr 2016 #14
We know she'll pick the kind of judges which will meet with approval oasis Apr 2016 #37
Nonsense. She doesn't care about anyone's "approval" senz Apr 2016 #75
"She doesn't care" - "Her lawless behavior" Sparkly Apr 2016 #93
Because anyone who doesn't like sold-out corporatist one-percenters senz Apr 2016 #94
Anything that's rightwing is rightwing. Sparkly Apr 2016 #95
Ohhh, so any criticism of Hillary is "rightwing" senz May 2016 #96
Not what I said. Sparkly May 2016 #97
Wow. senz May 2016 #98
She did an interview today that I recommend you watch (video) BootinUp Apr 2016 #4
The thing with Clinton is that it Aerows Apr 2016 #5
"Senator sanders has been a passionate advocate for positions that HE cares deeply about" JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #6
Precisely my point. n/t Aerows Apr 2016 #7
TV interviews with any candidate rarely have the details you seem to be BootinUp Apr 2016 #10
Ultimately meaningless comment -- Hillary's positions in speeches/literature/debate are JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #12
That assertion is an opinion. And the voters are disagreeing with you in substantial BootinUp Apr 2016 #13
No, 55% of Dems agree pinebox Apr 2016 #42
the indies can vote dsc Apr 2016 #51
If a party wants a closed primary, fine. Let them pay for the election. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #53
unless there are no other issues on the ballot they aren't paying for the election anyway dsc Apr 2016 #55
I'll reiterate: Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #57
it is the state piggy backing on them dsc Apr 2016 #65
No it isn't. The state (that is, the public) foots the bill. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #67
You're assuming all those Hillary voters prefer progressive values. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #44
If we define progressive values as furthering the party platform BootinUp Apr 2016 #61
Well sure: if you create a properly-constructed tautology, then it's logically consistent. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #62
Running against Bernie forced Hillary's hand passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #69
"There are a lot of policy differences" BootinUp Apr 2016 #70
Wrong mindem Apr 2016 #52
Oh, puhleeze. JudyM Apr 2016 #76
Well said, Jon. senz Apr 2016 #15
But better than trump! akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #20
lol, that's ALL you can say for her. senz Apr 2016 #21
Prety much. She is a goldwater girl. She has no interest in the working class akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #23
I don't support evil, I support good: I'm for Bernie. senz Apr 2016 #24
I admire your loyalty! Enough said! akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #27
This is all so difficult, Senz. Punkingal Apr 2016 #49
If you give up now, you increase the probability of it. senz Apr 2016 #68
No way am I giving up. Punkingal Apr 2016 #71
Wasn't sure, but am glad to hear it. senz Apr 2016 #72
Well you certainly make me feel better. Punkingal Apr 2016 #84
Well thank you, Punkingal. senz Apr 2016 #89
She would do well to not speak about Bernie. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #86
FFS - Try a steam bath or something. nt BootinUp Apr 2016 #88
Maybe so. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #90
K&R Dragonfli Apr 2016 #9
Trump is different. Be careful what you wish for. Kablooie Apr 2016 #11
If you don't want trump, fight to get Bernie the nomination. senz Apr 2016 #16
he cant even beat hillary nt msongs Apr 2016 #18
A little Saturday morning.... Jack Bone Apr 2016 #17
Aerows, I understand where you are coming from. This year is worst than ever before. In 2008, you akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #19
If you don't want trump, fight to get Bernie the nomination. senz Apr 2016 #22
The odds are against Bernie. Social media feels he is too old akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #25
Agree with you oldandhappy Apr 2016 #28
You know, I kept wondering why the media was so much promoting Trump! akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #30
yes, totally manipulated. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #32
You are not well-informed. Millenials (social media) love him. senz Apr 2016 #29
I made a mistake with the first name. Gosh, you are being petty now! akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #31
Social media feels Bernie is too old? Is that why he crushes their polls? pinebox Apr 2016 #43
Keep doing the same thing and keep on expecting a different result. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #26
lurching like kerry. but no 'plan', just a lady card. pansypoo53219 Apr 2016 #33
Kerry would have been an excellent president and he ran karynnj Apr 2016 #38
Totally on point! nt Raine Apr 2016 #34
You supported the loser, Onlooker Apr 2016 #35
Not a very good one. Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #36
Yet she voted with Sanders > 93% of the time. randome Apr 2016 #40
Bingo. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #54
Votes made in anticipation of running for president senz Apr 2016 #73
No. She isn't. To hear you tell it, she is the anti-Christ. randome Apr 2016 #74
No, but fully aligned with powerful, destructive forces. senz Apr 2016 #81
K & R --- to be sure. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #39
Nader was to blame Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #41
That myth has been thoroughly debunked. Gore has all the blame riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #46
Again the math Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #47
You didn't bother to read the links I see riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #48
I did read the links Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #58
Over twice as many Dems voted for Bush. Nader voters weren't even close to offsetting that riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #63
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #45
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2016 #56
Haven't you noticed the single guiding principle of Hillary supporters? whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #59
She wants Status Quo Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #60
Picture of Hillary fighting hand to hand with Republican leaders. bahrbearian Apr 2016 #64
I'll raise you: Aerows Apr 2016 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author potisok Apr 2016 #77
This came to mind HDSam Apr 2016 #78
I don't think a lot of HRC supporters WANT a different result which is why they Hiraeth Apr 2016 #87
"Hillary Clinton, the U.S.'s Margaret Thatcher," a friend often says to me. emsimon33 Apr 2016 #91
There it is. Plain as fucking day. Excellent post. JEB Apr 2016 #92
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