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dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
21. I think you're missing something
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 05:31 AM
Apr 2016

What you're describing is exactly what got us in this mess, and how we never break free from it.

I think we're on a long slide towards corporate fascism and irreversible environmental destruction while greedy people fill their pockets working with and enabling those who are destructively plundering.

The operating analogy, to me, is a rip tide. The corporate flow is extremely powerful and controlling both parties. The Republican party, most of it anyway, is fine with this, go with the flow, it's free enterprise and will lift all boats. Truth is, only those in yachts are ok, the rest of us are sink or swim.

Members of the Democratic Party who don't like the whole slide into endless wars and environmental destruction, to me, are swimmers caught in the rip tide, and fighting against it to swim back to shore. They're losing this fight, but they're being pulled out to sea a little slower than those who don't fight the tide.

The way to beat a riptide is to stop fighting it, instead swimming sideways, essentially changing the entire context of the struggle so that you are swimming in a different context. Once you swim sideways far enough to escape the rip, everything is possible again, you have escaped the tractor beam of fascism and your efforts will propel you the direction you are trying to go.

I think we have to define, absolutely no compromise, that we're working, politically, in contexts that refuse corporate money. We can work on our party to be that context, to me that is great work but probably futile. We can work in other ways too, to create new vehicles for ending this riptide. Those are the interesting things happening right now. Vote however you want, but I'd advise looking into other ways to change things rather than just slowing down the corporate fascist rip-tide.

Mr Sulu??? Is that you????? MADem Apr 2016 #1
I didn't catch that, but I LOVE George Takei! Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #6
I suppose we are going to see a lot of boilerplate posts like this on DU. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #2
I can't speak for them, but I do not doubt they exist; in GREAT numbers. Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #4
I'm a veteran voter of the veteran voters. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #7
I am a big fan of Thom Hartmann AND Seymour Hersh. Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #10
I don't even trust her to nominate a liberal to the Supreme court. Unicorn Apr 2016 #9
K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #3
The math ---> Petrushka Apr 2016 #5
Your decision is yours but if you vote for her and she wins you WILL share a responsibility for what Live and Learn Apr 2016 #8
I happen to think that I'm voting for the "brakes" more so than if I voted for Trump Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #11
Who said anything about voting for Trump? Live and Learn Apr 2016 #14
YESSSSSSSSSSS Bohunk68 Apr 2016 #28
If Sanders does not win or run as a third party candidate dr60omg Apr 2016 #53
The problem with "the lesser of two evils thing" thucythucy Apr 2016 #54
Why do "Bernie" supporters suddenly need to post this? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #12
Don't eat your own, hon. moriah Apr 2016 #15
It is not that, I have posted on my vote for Hillary too. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #16
Okay, sorry if I offended you. moriah Apr 2016 #17
I thought he seemed a little fake... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #18
He's been here since 2004, if you didn't look at his profile. moriah Apr 2016 #19
That has nothing to do with it. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #20
I again apologize if it seemed like I was accusing you of anything. moriah Apr 2016 #23
Thanks for the post. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #24
Surely that last line is sarcasm, right? moriah Apr 2016 #26
Did you watch the video I linked though? northernsouthern Apr 2016 #34
If there is a way to see my oldest posts, I was never a Hillary supporter. I supported Obama in 08. Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #35
Thanks to HRC... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #45
I can see what you mean. And I hope I didn't come across that way. I only want to correct Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #67
You weren't vote shaming... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #71
I truly am sorry you have felt dismissed and ignored by DU and the party. moriah Apr 2016 #13
I don't think it was you? Something someone wrote yesterday about "sexist Bernie Bros" Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #39
That one wasn't me, but my statement stands... moriah Apr 2016 #41
Hugs. :) I did see your defense. I appreciated it! NT Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #44
I think you're missing something dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #21
This. Nt Joob Apr 2016 #22
Would you include a strong effort to get ranked choice voting in the US... moriah Apr 2016 #25
Frankly, I don't disagree with the sentiment. My problem is, what is my choice then if Bernie can't Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #36
Thanks dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #42
Hobson's Choice Democracy My Good Babushka Apr 2016 #27
You, dear sir/madam, are one of the esteemed adults in the primary playroom... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #29
love your Obama gif :) azurnoir Apr 2016 #47
Wow! Another one! Almost looks orchestrated! djean111 Apr 2016 #30
^^^^THIS^^^^ Dawgs Apr 2016 #31
Orchestrated? LoL I was drunk and hadn't been on DU in days. I wasn't aware of "all of these Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #37
As someone else pointed out - you posted the same exact OP in February. djean111 Apr 2016 #50
So... I'm orchestrating with myself? And the REAL long con is that I "posed" as Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #58
Now you are just inept and boring. 'bye! djean111 Apr 2016 #62
So boring that you're still responding? Inept, maybe. haha Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #65
Personally I think that: beedle Apr 2016 #32
Nicely said.. Fumesucker Apr 2016 #38
Excellent post dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #43
Thank you fantastic post azurnoir Apr 2016 #46
Lesser of two evils is a rationale. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #33
True. But, it's still the lesser of two evils. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #40
Hillary needs 'Bernie' supporters like you azurnoir Apr 2016 #48
you're such a Bernie supporter-you posted the same thing last February azurnoir Apr 2016 #49
OOH, ya got me! LOL Did you READ it? It's a pretty clear articulation of why Bernie Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #61
I'd say prepare to be thrown under the bus, but I see I am late to the party. Squinch Apr 2016 #51
You have to live with yourself tularetom Apr 2016 #52
Posted the same exact crap in February. n/t djean111 Apr 2016 #55
Right. Both UNITY posts. Both VEHEMENTLY supporting Bernie, and articulating WHY, Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #57
Done! djean111 Apr 2016 #64
what makes you think shanti Apr 2016 #69
Common sense? Here's the thing: Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #70
Your correct -- Except I thinks we also need to keep pushing to change direction and put on the gas Armstead Apr 2016 #56
100% agree. And, again (and I LOVE that I have to use this caveat every time), I Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #60
Cool story bro. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #59
Do you interpret this as if I will write Hillary in, even if Bernie wins the Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #63
I have donated about the same PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #66
Thank you, and I apologize that it even came across that way. If I could make the OP title Grown2Hate Apr 2016 #68
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