2016 Postmortem

SalviaBlue

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33. Michelle and those she highlights in her article live in rarified air.

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:47 PM

Apr 2016

I do like her disclaimer: "evidence for this is entirely anecdotal. The people who came to hate each other over the Democratic primary are a small, unrepresentative group of political obsessives. Most people never talk about politics online..."

I don't give a shit what Maryna the curator and art advisor thinks about those she refers to as "progressive bros." She claims Hillary's "experience mirrors my experience." Wow! I don't know anyone who could claim that, and I am a 60 year old woman. I doubt very seriously she knows anything about me and mine.

I would like to point out that the majority of posters on this site has supported Bernie. However, a very small percentage of us have burned bridges or have EVER been overly rude. In fact, most have never said a disparaging word about Hillary. Yes, there are some, but a very small number given the number of pro-Bernie people there are on this site.

Skinner, the only thing Michelle's article gives me perspective on is how the NARRATIVE GETS HIJACKED by people who get paid to explain it to us.

I'm not buying it.

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The Democratic Primary Ruined My Friendship! [View all] Skinner Apr 2016 OP

Which is why I do not argue during primaries Uben Apr 2016 #1

K&R! JaneyVee Apr 2016 #2

What is particularly interesting about this from Michelle is that DURHAM D Apr 2016 #3

Imagine her surprise and shock, then.... Hekate Apr 2016 #167

Yes, I hope we all come to our senses soon. DCBob Apr 2016 #4

I think we need to understand that most voters MineralMan Apr 2016 #5

Yes, let's delegitimize them by clinging to the R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #11

Yah, OK then. MineralMan Apr 2016 #14

My pardon. Aparently you have run out of R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #20

Nope. I've run out of patience. MineralMan Apr 2016 #30

Or perhaps it is deeper than that? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #35

LOL. MineralMan Apr 2016 #37

I think you just lost a friend. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #113

Guess that's what is with the old adage about.............. nolabels Apr 2016 #322

Yep. It is. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #251

Perhaps he just doesn't care what you are on to. leftofcool Apr 2016 #45

Maybe, just maybe sharp_stick Apr 2016 #92

Yeah, it's DEEP all right!! MADem Apr 2016 #97

Or maybe he's just bored with you. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #107

He's just not that into you, perhaps Hekate Apr 2016 #177

Maybe, just maybe, Bernie supporters aren't just that into Hillary timmymoff Apr 2016 #181

To borrow a gif from M0rpheus, one of my fave DUers ever, some of these folks here have me like this Number23 Apr 2016 #201

That is hysterically funny, and an antidote to all the not-funny stuff! Hekate Apr 2016 #245

Perfect! sheshe2 Apr 2016 #501

Just one more example of the incivility of late--back in the day, even when we had heated MADem Apr 2016 #93

I love your gif! Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #153

I had a cat that looked JUST like that for 21 years. MADem Apr 2016 #176

Could it be that the differences between candidates was never this stark? That a true leader emerged snowy owl Apr 2016 #227

It was rough in 08. Really rough. MADem Apr 2016 #256

So you were for Clinton then? Or Obama? snowy owl Apr 2016 #265

Clinton--but I Got Over It. MADem Apr 2016 #291

you make great points in both posts, MADem! bettyellen Apr 2016 #396

Thanks! MADem Apr 2016 #400

Did you seriously Uponthegears Apr 2016 #403

Obama admits it. Did you "seriously" take a "news vacation" during that period of time? MADem Apr 2016 #407

I remember Uponthegears Apr 2016 #450

It's right in every article written about it. MADem Apr 2016 #480

Don't patronize Uponthegears Apr 2016 #483

I am an "Obama supporter" and I paid close attention to that race. MADem Apr 2016 #484

First Uponthegears Apr 2016 #495

You are spot on, MADem! brer cat Apr 2016 #344

Thanks, it's appreciated nonetheless! nt MADem Apr 2016 #401

Whatever you say. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #250

Skinner changed the five hides rule because it was clear that Sanders supporters NuclearDem Apr 2016 #17

I have seen lots of abuse on DU that skinner never seemed to care about R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #23

I like the five hide rule sharp_stick Apr 2016 #95

Once GDP closes, it will be. moriah Apr 2016 #311

I gotta say - I love your posts. vintx Apr 2016 #492

I really try. And if I can't... moriah Apr 2016 #512

Thank you for actually understanding. PyaarRevolution May 2016 #513

+1 QC Apr 2016 #354

Too bad GulfCoast66 Apr 2016 #456

The present establishment is beholden to the same $$$ R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #465

I don't think he's indifferent Prism Apr 2016 #459

That's what I've seen since then... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #502

The last jury that I was one I decided to decline. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #509

Well, if the primaries are really over, no reason to not turn the timeouts back on. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #58

Excellent! NV Whino Apr 2016 #73

Yep Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #80

I'm guessing the 5 hide won't be turned back on until the primary is declared over which Skinner seaglass Apr 2016 #329

Maybe. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #339

Can't say I disagree. n/t seaglass Apr 2016 #346

I'd rather see the DU'ers who were abusing the jury system get more time to reflect. KittyWampus Apr 2016 #355

Take a pleasant stroll around some of the transparency pages in question Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #398

Yeah, those Clinton Cavers can't do that, you are right. cui bono Apr 2016 #434

Yeah and posters who ran up another 10 or more hides catnhatnh Apr 2016 #102

well, it seems it depends on their candidate of choice. Raster Apr 2016 #393

+10,000 nolawarlock Apr 2016 #114

Is that more Brock Dark Talk? Or are you just guessing? Either way, pretty lame. snowy owl Apr 2016 #225

Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Worst fail ever!! Scuba Apr 2016 #328

+1 Unicorn Apr 2016 #29

Wow ... that's one unhinged rant. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #50

No no no. "Unhinged" was January's talking point. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #59

Sorry, but "unhinged" is a perpetual state for some Sanders supporters. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #70

well I guess you told me! Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #143

Or he recognize the flaws in his jury system ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #117

It's funny that he only "sees the light" R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #253

Wow. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #273

Wow, Hilly people love to clutch at pearls inasmuch as it diverts drom the discussion. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #325

You seem obsessed with WillyT PaulaFarrell Apr 2016 #270

hahahahahahahahahahah! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #274

No, you're just obsessed PaulaFarrell Apr 2016 #297

You got me. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #301

You nailed it. So many people have given up voting. Independents make up the biggest group now. snowy owl Apr 2016 #222

the reason he has us "freed from time outs" is because that tiny minority is over represented here KittyWampus Apr 2016 #351

... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #356

I hope you are right! pandr32 Apr 2016 #39

You'll probably have to look in other MineralMan Apr 2016 #42

For a while pandr32 Apr 2016 #87

I would have to say that I am not surprised to see this from an owner admin. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #6

There's no purge. cwydro Apr 2016 #8

Seemingly camp weathervane loves to talk about it. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #15

I don't know who camp weathervane is, sorry. cwydro Apr 2016 #19

If you say so. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #24

One persons purge is another persons exodus. nt Snotcicles Apr 2016 #60

That earned you an Ignore. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #61

and smelling faintly of elderberries... Fairgo Apr 2016 #68

It is not a purge. musicblind Apr 2016 #130

There's lots of Hillbots on DU salivating for it to happen. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #262

You will of course, point us towards the relevant posts, yes? LanternWaste Apr 2016 #361

It allows them victim status. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #377

There won't be a purge. Codeine Apr 2016 #10

Will not declaring personality cult level support of the center-right R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #26

Its not an impending "purge" ....it's a personal self administered Enema by those wilfully violating pkdu Apr 2016 #40

However ya wanna spin it if ut majes you mite comfortable with the outcome. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #241

When the hell are the corporate loving conservatives going to start doing that? TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #324

People will also have to quit posting the truth about Hillary. Scuba Apr 2016 #330

There was a TOS when you signed up. Adrahil Apr 2016 #12

Ah, but the admins seem to jiggle that TOS R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #16

Then take it up with Skinner in ATA leftofcool Apr 2016 #48

DU is a forum, not a jail ... you can leave any time you want. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #52

classic Spiro Agnew mantra: "love it or leave it..." islandmkl Apr 2016 #77

Except DU is an internet forum, not a country. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #84

you seem a little obtuse... islandmkl Apr 2016 #380

Really--and there is that lovely "Discussionist" with no pesky "Support Democrats" TOS. MADem Apr 2016 #132

There are a lot of people from here who post at Discussionist. polly7 Apr 2016 #139

Not surprising that the right wing wouldn't mind Sanders. MADem Apr 2016 #205

Sanders is right wing now? nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #206

No. I said "the right wing wouldn't MIND him" because he's easy to beat. MADem Apr 2016 #211

lol. yeah ........ ok. polly7 Apr 2016 #213

It's not my fault that you jumped in while I was editing--there was almost no time between the MADem Apr 2016 #307

lmfao. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #418

Your silence and now your comments are all about denigration of Bernie. Why? snowy owl Apr 2016 #237

Motives are transparent thanks to the glorious amnesty rules!!! Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #337

I am very PROUD of my transparency page--thanks for linking so I didn't have to. MADem Apr 2016 #409

wow you did get screwed on pretty much all of those hides dsc Apr 2016 #445

It doesn't show bullying. It shows the bully. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #490

Yes, the ones who hide innocuous comments. MADem Apr 2016 #494

Poor you. I guess that you believe that responding to you R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #496

"Denigration of Bernie?" Please. He is a POLITICIAN. MADem Apr 2016 #408

Yeah, too polite. Keep repeating that to yourself. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #243

There's a lot of stuff out there about the guy that hasn't been discussed here. MADem Apr 2016 #416

I can smell that cowpie that you dropped from here. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #417

No, you'll have to go to VT Digger or 7Days for that. MADem Apr 2016 #423

Nope, what you dropped stinks to high heaven R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #429

"Definately?" You sure? LOL! MADem Apr 2016 #440

Oh, you. You don't use a shovel...IMHO. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #464

There you go, talking about MEEE again. nt MADem Apr 2016 #479

If you like we could discuss your transparency page... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #481

Still talking about MEEEEE, are ya? MADem Apr 2016 #482

Of course you would be proud of that page! R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #485

If you would just stop talking about MEEEEEEE I wouldn't have to use the word. MADem Apr 2016 #487

Well, if you look at my transparancy page R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #489

because the Democrats supporting Clinton have been too polite to say much about it. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #444

those guys aren't polite like Team Hillary passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #443

Selective enforcement? nah, here? noway. nt Snotcicles Apr 2016 #64

silenced? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #120

Says newbie of 5 weeks with 6 hides riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #144

Yeah, and nearly all of them were bogus. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #148

Poor oppressed minority riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #155

Yeah, so can I. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #160

And again, nolawarlock Apr 2016 #161

Well, I went through the first three of your hides and only one of them seemed legit Number23 Apr 2016 #208

Strangely, it was skinner who wrote something to the effect R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #246

His big amnesty message a few weeks ago ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #279

I imagine Democrats and tolerant, like-minded people returning. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #124

Yes ablamj Apr 2016 #171

I can tell... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #194

Have you tried forming your own political website? I say this in the kindest way possible... Hekate Apr 2016 #170

If Skinner starts purging people who dislike-to-despise HRC, he'd have to slash almost all of DU. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #419

K & R Johnyawl Apr 2016 #7

Interesting. There was a similar article in the NYT Sunday. cwydro Apr 2016 #9

I have friends and family who are/were Sanders supporters. sufrommich Apr 2016 #13

Great post. Same here. cwydro Apr 2016 #21

I guess that is the meme of the day. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #27

It's no meme for me. cwydro Apr 2016 #32

So true. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #63

Yea, I agree. The article is bullshit... not real life. SalviaBlue Apr 2016 #397

That's pretty much my experience ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #121

Same here. musicblind Apr 2016 #134

Yes, no issues like that with my family either Dem2 Apr 2016 #152

Um yeah, my husband and son voted for Sanders in the primary. I have family members seaglass Apr 2016 #336

+1, the relative few are grinders though... they are very persistent uponit7771 Apr 2016 #373

Same here, including me. blm Apr 2016 #421

You know damn well that there are outsider elements here manipulating both sides. onehandle Apr 2016 #18

truth Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #315

I think those who argue the loudest lovemydog Apr 2016 #22

This isn't just some regular primary. We are fighting for the soul of our party. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #25

It's the gilded age all over again. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #31

Guilded? Guilds are like unions. Gilded is covered in gold. Hekate Apr 2016 #175

Thanks for the spell check. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #257

Nailed it! Scuba Apr 2016 #333

I'd rationalize accuracy as something else too were my candidate of choice dependent on it. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #363

Thanks Daniel & Rhett. I thought I'd stumbled into the HRC group. snowy owl Apr 2016 #242

So it's this bad after eight years of a Dem president? cwydro Apr 2016 #38

The ACA is failing. Insurance companies are pulling out of the exchanges. Hello. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #46

and our jobs are being shipped overseas or replaced by an H-1B visaholder. nt antigop Apr 2016 #78

That's a lot of newly insured that you simply blow off as if it's nothing. Dem2 Apr 2016 #98

Forced to buy it. But can they really afford what they have to pay? Armstead Apr 2016 #162

I am glad you are satisfied but I won't until all Americans are covered. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #184

As expected, a straw man answer Dem2 Apr 2016 #185

I work at a foodbank and with the homeless. I will show them your graph. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #193

I'm an optimist Dem2 Apr 2016 #197

It's tough to be optimistic when you see things getting worse every day. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #202

"If Clinton wins" ?? -- I guess you'll be overjoyed with President Trump? Dem2 Apr 2016 #214

But some here are working for the side that has put us where we are today. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #358

How can you keep trying? His answer, "I'm an optimist." That says it all & nothing at same time. snowy owl Apr 2016 #247

Good point. I think it's Authoritarian Adulation. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #359

That's it, you nailed it! Dem2 Apr 2016 #368

It's hard to remain an optimist when our economy keeps sliding backwards passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #448

I'm not buying it Dem2 Apr 2016 #449

I really think you do not understand the difference between covered and Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #209

This message was self-deleted by its author passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #437

They act like the ACA was a magic wand Lazy Daisy Apr 2016 #382

And after an initial burst of hope I see it slowly collapsing. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #387

No, it's succeeding. A single national insurance co dropped out that never was a major player anyway pnwmom May 2016 #518

ACA has done jack shit in reducing healthcare costs davidn3600 Apr 2016 #53

The ACA has also saved the life of my neice. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #88

Was she on medicaid? ACA did help medicaid patients - the very, very poor. snowy owl Apr 2016 #249

Millions of people on the ACA have also benefited, including my son. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #520

ACA Old Codger Apr 2016 #129

Reminds me of the post we had about a friend going to the ER for a broken arm that cost mega-bucks. Hekate Apr 2016 #180

I thought we all concluded the ACA was a good start? yallerdawg Apr 2016 #226

Hey, I'm one of those silly people who LOVE that ACA got passed and signed in any form at all! Hekate Apr 2016 #255

Well Kall Apr 2016 #316

Very good post. Kentonio Apr 2016 #320

So do I get your post as saying we should accept what we've got and shut up? rhett o rick Apr 2016 #467

Would that be by imperial fiat... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #469

+1. n/t pnwmom May 2016 #521

You might want to check with insurance companies about it being a huge gift mythology Apr 2016 #212

Well, isn't that the point. It isn't working whether because people can't afford or other snowy owl Apr 2016 #254

That points out the basic flaw in the ACA -- Private health insurance is a bad business model Armstead Apr 2016 #323

The ACA provided health care to me, a person with severe medical conditions. musicblind Apr 2016 #140

Thank you for letting us know. I hope the increased access helps you a whole lot. Hekate Apr 2016 #183

Anecdotal evidence is often the best a lazy mind can produce. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #364

Wrong. CBO numbers show it is slowing the rate of cost increases. We need to do more, but pnwmom May 2016 #519

Yes. It's still that bad for a lot of people! TDale313 Apr 2016 #56

You have to understand what the ACA does Prism Apr 2016 #461

+1.nt Snotcicles Apr 2016 #67

+1. The soul of the party is exactly right. Very few of the convos here are about who we like JudyM Apr 2016 #112

Sadly when we say we are fighting for a fair break for the 99% we get ridiculed. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #174

They said all this in '08. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #122

And you like that pattern? Barack_America Apr 2016 #126

Not at all ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #128

You've 800 posts and been here since march and you are telling us what's for? rhett o rick Apr 2016 #179

I am actually critical of corporate involvement in politics. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #189

You don't win if you have to sell your soul. Clinton wants to amass a huge fortune. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #195

Go right ahead. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #198

The lady doth protest too much, methinks. n/t xocet Apr 2016 #238

This message was self-deleted by its author nolawarlock Apr 2016 #240

you realize the Felicia nonsense ibegurpard Apr 2016 #298

:) nolawarlock Apr 2016 #303

Oh I guess you didn't ibegurpard Apr 2016 #312

:) nolawarlock Apr 2016 #313

+ 1000 And an inhabitable planet. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #204

The soul of the party was lost at the crossroads. zeemike Apr 2016 #458

I stick to talking Republican politics IRL... Barack_America Apr 2016 #28

Michelle and those she highlights in her article live in rarified air. SalviaBlue Apr 2016 #33

x10,000 one mature woman to another :) We have institutional memory. snowy owl Apr 2016 #261

It is a tradition of capitalism, say or do whatever you have to.......... nolabels Apr 2016 #331

This election has really sorted out the real progressives from pretenders kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #34

+ 1 nt. GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 #178

Nicely said coyote Apr 2016 #310

If anything good came out of it, at least we know for certain who the fakes are. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #427

I love my family, friends, the planet. A candidate tepid or agnostic on climate change fucks us over riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #36

If people don't share my values, they are not my friends. It's that simple. antigop Apr 2016 #51

That is just unbelievably isolating. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #110

um, no, it's not. nt antigop Apr 2016 #115

Alrighty then. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #118

So having friends is more important than saving the planet, getting kids out of poverty, providing snowy owl Apr 2016 #267

Great premise nolawarlock Apr 2016 #268

Do you, now? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #108

I'm not a christian. riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #151

What are you talking about? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #154

And if it isn't clear that I'm not a Christian ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #158

Just now read your profile. LOL, if I'm ever in Salem.... Hekate Apr 2016 #187

haha cool! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #191

I used to live in Nawlins in the early 80's, climate change is gonna be a real drag there Fumesucker Apr 2016 #210

Heeeeeere we go ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #271

I've been through two hurricanes, nothing as heavy as Katrina Fumesucker Apr 2016 #431

And Hillary is for combating climate change. nolawarlock May 2016 #523

So you laugh when a compassionate candidate loses? That's sad. snowy owl Apr 2016 #269

Huh? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #272

Noted that so changed but you saw it too quickly. Like me, you're addicted. :) snowy owl Apr 2016 #277

Well there is that. :-D nolawarlock Apr 2016 #278

Nice try. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #41

And the Presidency is the least powerful branch of our government. randome Apr 2016 #43

Plus a thousand ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #47

Boom! sheshe2 Apr 2016 #103

Which is why Trump as President isn't really that big a deal Fumesucker Apr 2016 #216

Well, good point. But if the GOP has the Presidency AND Congress, they will be unstoppable. randome Apr 2016 #411

Rot starts at the top and seeps down. You need a good leader. snowy owl Apr 2016 #275

There are a whole bunch of people in the ME and Afghanistan who would say different PaulaFarrell Apr 2016 #284

Skinner, we've hung out together for thirteen years. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #44

Exactly. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #55

So true Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #89

The problem at DU is that passionate partisans are allowed to go to war in GD:P andym Apr 2016 #290

You're right in that primaries - save 2012, for obvious reasons - are always ugly as hell here. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #294

Very interesting post. artislife Apr 2016 #57

It absolutely cannot be said any more perfectly than you just said it. Every word. arcane1 Apr 2016 #62

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #69

well fucking said! zappaman Apr 2016 #228

Ya, and one of those hides. A Sanders supported jury, just as Joe stated. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #343

Wow. It's like you were Nelson Mandela. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #266

That must be one of those bullshit hides he was referring to Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #367

Oh snap! truebrit71 Apr 2016 #375

Free, Free Nelson JoePhilly... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #384

... Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #493

I saw the specials a long time ago. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #497

Every once in a while one post catches your eye, stark in its realness...authenticity. RiverLover Apr 2016 #71

Perfectly stated! Thank you. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #83

+1 Marr Apr 2016 #91

Agreed. It did not go unnoticed who was allowed to return with lots o hides. Not Bernie supporters corkhead Apr 2016 #111

Says you who attack new members here both as paid trolls and on personal levels... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #125

Nailed it. kiva Apr 2016 #133

Excellent post. 840high Apr 2016 #142

+ another one nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #168

+ a gazillion. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #196

Agree on all counts dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #259

Thank you for some much needed truth and clarity MissDeeds Apr 2016 #349

You don't beat around the bush, do you, Jeff? Zorra Apr 2016 #378

Its sad mcar Apr 2016 #49

The enemy is within. RiverLover Apr 2016 #79

+1000. Spot on. nt antigop Apr 2016 #94

Exactamundo Ned_Devine Apr 2016 #119

+ 1001 nt. GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 #223

I've read down this whole thread... ReRe Apr 2016 #234

Fuckin A! TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #332

Agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #371

Hillary is a big part of the "real threat" Doctor_J Apr 2016 #136

Suggestion, Sir: Go ahead and "call it", but reinstate the timeouts for those w/transparency showing Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #54

Gore/Bradley in 2000 had all of the same memes of people The Second Stone Apr 2016 #65

This campaign has tested my identity as a lifetime Dem. That never happened before. leveymg Apr 2016 #66

it's not a hard time to be a Democrat if... antigop Apr 2016 #74

+1000 nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #199

I have lost a friend. madaboutharry Apr 2016 #72

I have a practical, hopefully lucrative suggestion. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #75

How about "Democratic Underground" and "Third Way Underground?" senz Apr 2016 #203

It wouldn't be nearly as interesting. Preaching to each other would get old fast. snowy owl Apr 2016 #287

Okay, I'll have to admit I enjoy a little verbal fisticuffs myself, but around here senz Apr 2016 #309

If Hillary gets the nod at the convention, TOS would require IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #353

I am a Progressive supporting HRC. You want an Ideologue Underground KittyWampus Apr 2016 #362

Project much? Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #468

WOW... Now I Really Feel I'm In The Wrong Place! ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #76

Yep Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #96

Appeal to his financial side and join me in asking him for a new site *Progressive Underground* JimDandy Apr 2016 #163

That might threaten his wife's future employment. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #186

His development of the Discussionist website for Republicans did not JimDandy Apr 2016 #220

Setting up a site that directly challenges a Hillary presidency that would likely Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #224

Actually, I DOUBT I Would Get Any Reaction OR Perhaps A ChiciB1 Apr 2016 #436

I admit this primary brought out the worst in me. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author Marr Apr 2016 #82

I've found, to my horror, that some "committed progressives" are all too willing to MADem Apr 2016 #85

You aren't kidding! nolawarlock Apr 2016 #137

Agree. lovemydog Apr 2016 #239

Paranoia strikes. Into your lives it will creep. And it has. snowy owl Apr 2016 #289

'deep' lovemydog Apr 2016 #386

Reality. snowy owl Apr 2016 #394

+1000 nt brer cat Apr 2016 #345

Thanks for the anti-Bernie supporter hit piece, Skinner. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #86

Did you read the article? It was balanced fairly between both Sanders and Clinton supporters. n/t musicblind Apr 2016 #157

Yes I did read it and no it isn't "balanced" aikoaiko Apr 2016 #164

I voted for Bernie n/t musicblind Apr 2016 #207

IIRC you're happy to vote for HRC in the election. You're a HRC supporter now. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #319

If she makes it to the general, of course I will support her. I support the democratic party. musicblind Apr 2016 #441

Either way Skinner's article in the OP is still heavily weighted against Bernie's supporters. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #446

It said Progressive Bros. musicblind May 2016 #515

It's interesring in the exerpt that was displayed. Very telling. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #276

I can see the argument that he picked a bias excerpt. musicblind Apr 2016 #442

The intent, on the part of the OP poster, is very telling. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #463

I've seen this mentioned a couple of times. musicblind May 2016 #514

Read. R. Daneel Olivaw May 2016 #516

That's why that poster thought it was unfair, because it wasn't biased towards Bernie stevenleser Apr 2016 #451

It's time, skinner! NV Whino Apr 2016 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author TekGryphon Apr 2016 #100

"Progressive Bros" 2banon Apr 2016 #99

Thanks for letting me know I am a misogynist. I hadn't realized. corkhead Apr 2016 #101

This is something I had always reserved for Republicans postatomic Apr 2016 #104

Are you saying that you are unaware of any specific lies that Hillary has told? Doctor_J Apr 2016 #141

Please re-read what I wrote postatomic Apr 2016 #145

If anyone actually ends a real friendship over a political candidate ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #105

My whole family and my friends are all for Bernie, so that was not a problem for us. JimDandy Apr 2016 #106

Those damn progressives! mhatrw Apr 2016 #109

It's not Progressives. It's Ideologues. People who are intolerant KittyWampus Apr 2016 #365

Skinner, would you put up a Progressive Underground site for the JimDandy Apr 2016 #116

If he doesn't, RiverLover Apr 2016 #123

Can't see sigs on my mobile. If it's JPR, I think they are great JimDandy Apr 2016 #138

Why would you want Skinner running such a site? dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #264

why not just go to jackpine radicals? A poster suggested that for me . . . or will I be hidden now? snowy owl Apr 2016 #295

Yes dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #305

There will be a big change at JP soon. We are moving to a more user friendly software. Autumn Apr 2016 #432

Thanks for that news, Autumn! dreamnightwind Apr 2016 #435

That's really good to hear Autumn, passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #452

I had the devils own time getting used to that software and I still only reply. Autumn Apr 2016 #457

Good to know, thanks. zeemike Apr 2016 #460

Or maybe you could just learn to understand people who aren't like you. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #131

Transparent Hubris: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #334

All that proves ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #390

Oh please, those were some nasty ass comments and they are there to see courtesty Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #439

I can see them myself just fine. nolawarlock May 2016 #522

Why all the anti-Bernie graphics? Mean spirited? Kind of in-your-face isn't it? snowy owl Apr 2016 #389

Is that so? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #392

Yes, we can't have any difference of opinions. RandySF Apr 2016 #219

Perhaps it is because some individuals are made up entirely of invective and snark: Bluenorthwest Apr 2016 #338

Another splinter group? lovemydog Apr 2016 #244

Why not go to Discussionist? All bets are off over there, and you can muster your MADem Apr 2016 #263

Seems like a good destination for conservatives. You all can discuss the evils of "free stuff", TheKentuckian Apr 2016 #340

We never get answers when we bring up those issues. snowy owl Apr 2016 #391

It's a free for all over there--all bets are off. Uber-left/Ultra-right, it's all good in that yard. MADem Apr 2016 #415

Why don't you start your own site? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #410

Well, Skinner... Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #127

As opposed to "the treatment" Clinton supporters have dished out. JimDandy Apr 2016 #146

Drop in the bucket. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #150

It's been a whole bucket brigade of them. JimDandy Apr 2016 #169

"right-leaning Dems" Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #172

Absolutely serious. There is a clear fracture line in the Dem party now and on DU JimDandy Apr 2016 #218

Good reply. Totally accurate. Right-leaning and passive-aggressive. A lot of that in HRC grps. snowy owl Apr 2016 #299

Really, how do you know us here? Loki Apr 2016 #335

You have a legacy to be proud of. I'm looking at here and now and that's what I see. snowy owl Apr 2016 #388

I'm not a purity test Democrat, never have been and Loki Apr 2016 #399

You either didn't read Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #376

Absolutely unproductive. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #374

If you lost a friendship over the primary I need to know your definition of "friendship" UMTerp01 Apr 2016 #135

Exactly. This is ridiculous. jillan Apr 2016 #159

me, too snowy owl Apr 2016 #300

K&R Jeffersons Ghost Apr 2016 #147

"The people who came to hate each other over the Democratic primary are a small... herding cats Apr 2016 #149

Some people need to grow up. I have friends that are Trump supporters. Friendship is jillan Apr 2016 #156

Agreed totally. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #165

There's hope yet. Thank you Skinner. Hekate Apr 2016 #166

In the first sentence I can tell this BS supporter doesn't know what he's talking about .. who knew? Cha Apr 2016 #173

I have never lost a friend over politics. Beacool Apr 2016 #182

Me either. One of my closest friends is a Republican. A Log Cabin Republican at that. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #188

I can't imagine being a Republican and having to choose between "Lucifer" Cruz and Trump the buffoon Beacool Apr 2016 #190

I've been trying to convince him to change his party affiliation to unaffiliated before the Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #200

Yeah, at that age it would be a huge change. Beacool Apr 2016 #230

Beacool, just on the light side, you are right Even you and that guy akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #229

Thank you. Beacool Apr 2016 #232

See, we can all come together after the primaries is over to support the candidate that we like! akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #248

That's great. Beacool Apr 2016 #413

NO !! GoLeft2004 Apr 2016 #233

Your life, your choice of friends. Beacool Apr 2016 #414

K & R. I've tried to take some solace in noticing that most of the truly belligerent feces-throwers Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #192

Think 1912! andym Apr 2016 #215

Taft was never a progressive Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2016 #412

Disagree. Taft was clearly progressive, but more conservative than the other two. andym May 2016 #524

Just as some people should not be allowed near sharp objects RandySF Apr 2016 #217

"Left" vs. "Liberal" Sparkly Apr 2016 #221

"Progressive" not "left" Another passive-aggressive put down. snowy owl Apr 2016 #395

The DemocraticUnderground ruined my friendship ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #231

I expected zero tolerance, too. yallerdawg Apr 2016 #235

I'm new so I may get trashed for agreeing ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #236

But skinner didn't stand by and do nothing. He opened the gates for the HRC supporters R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #280

Skinner acknowlged ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #281

Bingo again. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #286

And that 15% for Hillary or other were all helpless victims. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #288

What does any of that ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #292

Oh, perhaps bigotry on the part of those who aren't in the majority on DU R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #326

That person you're responding towas a victim of the jury system to the point they got a timeout once Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #370

I know. But thanks for being obvious, captain R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #385

Hey, listen ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #425

Let's start at the beginning with your logical fallacy. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #430

I am suggesting the bleedin' obvious ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #433

Cry me a fu@king river...seriously. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #462

Your cried for river would be full of your own red herrings. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #472

Whatever that word salad means... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #474

Yup. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #476

What poor victims you all are. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #477

See my #498 below. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #505

Sorry, steve, but I am just not that into you R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #511

Nope, and you created a straw man in your attempt to accuse Nance of using a logical fallacy stevenleser Apr 2016 #471

Wow, what brain power it took fir you to say no. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #473

Nope, it's simple try responding to what folks actually say. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #475

I did, my poor 9x hidden friend. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #478

See my #498 below. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #504

See the door, steve. I don't care. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2016 #510

Straw man. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #470

Go take a taxpayer provided chill pill ibegurpard Apr 2016 #283

You DO realize you're wasting your time - right? NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #285

yes ibegurpard Apr 2016 #293

I happen to be "sitting in a country" ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #302

name them? ibegurpard Apr 2016 #304

Yes, Hillary Clinton ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #306

I almost lost my coffee Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #372

Thank you, Nance. brer cat Apr 2016 #347

You will be ok Mr. Skinner, you run this place and honestly, akbacchus_BC Apr 2016 #252

Youth Culture Killed My Dog Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #258

On the contrary, this primary has restored lost friendships with many of my RW family members tularetom Apr 2016 #260

I can relate to this. coyote Apr 2016 #314

That Hillary -- she's a uniter, she is! Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #381

commiserating w/ RW nutjobs is a good thing now, eh? Not for long buddy. bettyellen Apr 2016 #500

It's actually been quite cathartic ibegurpard Apr 2016 #282

The problem at DU is that passionate partisans are allowed to go to war in GD:P andym Apr 2016 #296

What a read. Two things: task analyzers and relational bloggers; if graphics matter, HRC most rude snowy owl Apr 2016 #308

Agreed Joob Apr 2016 #317

I've seen plenty of anti-hillary sig items ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #422

It really isn't JUST her record we fear. Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #318

You are far too generous in labeling this as losing friends Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #321

Exactly. Puglover Apr 2016 #342

It's a dog's life ainn't it? Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #348

Actually when you Puglover Apr 2016 #360

If you supported Clinton, you are no progressive pengu Apr 2016 #327

Clinton and Sanders are not similar, they are opposites. Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #341

You are describing "institutional memory." Now that I'm older, I see how fast it can be lost. snowy owl Apr 2016 #404

Afraid people are the problem. raouldukelives Apr 2016 #350

I've read this and many other articles in the same vein DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #352

From what I've seen lately justiceischeap Apr 2016 #402

Is it just a label for you? Don't you care that your party has moved so far right? snowy owl Apr 2016 #405

It's cause and effect justiceischeap Apr 2016 #420

The Goddess Pose ... ?! omg. hilarious Hiraeth Apr 2016 #357

Hard to imagine that happening in real life. stone space Apr 2016 #366

K&R Thank you for sharing. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2016 #369

It's a good essay on "why to avoid Facebook". JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #379

The stakes are only getting higher with each passing election. Orsino Apr 2016 #383

Takes time to wind down. Teams represent principles and values. It is intense. Shouldn't it be? snowy owl Apr 2016 #406

How disappointed would you be if 1/4 of your Democrat friends gave up and decided to support Kasich? Attorney in Texas Apr 2016 #424

And Hillary won't care - as long as she gets your vote demwing Apr 2016 #426

I'm sure you and your "Democrat" friends... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #428

Oh, so it IS your sandbox. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #454

Well when people get so low as to question nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #438

Well, that went well. /nt yardwork Apr 2016 #447

And the nasty craziness is turned on you for no good reason. stevenleser Apr 2016 #453

who by and large left the realm of remotely rational discourse passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #455

With Sanders supporters controlling juries that's the equivalent of two hides stevenleser Apr 2016 #466

What I find most amusing here passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #486

What I find most amusing and goes a long way to proving my point is that stevenleser Apr 2016 #498

Yep, and they are the first to cry "censorship" if something nasty gets hidden- but alert stalk bettyellen Apr 2016 #499

And the irony is, in order for a Sanders supporter to get something hidden, at least two stevenleser Apr 2016 #506

Shows how little you know, but then it's what I expect from you. passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #507

Oh I know and I expected you to try to use those very excuses. stevenleser Apr 2016 #508

Oh I see passiveporcupine May 2016 #517

One of my friends voted for Clinton in the primary, and it shocked me when she told Zorra Apr 2016 #488

None of my friendships have been ruined. LWolf Apr 2016 #491

Are there really any friendships in politics? JonathanRackham Apr 2016 #503

Skinner—One ends up realizing…it was not truly ‘friendship.’ CobaltBlue May 2016 #525

• ALSO • Michelle Goldberg is a sellout. (No sympathy.) CobaltBlue May 2016 #526