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mzteaze

(448 posts)
7. You Never Know...
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:55 PM
Oct 2012

I have a friend who is a Republican...who lives in the South. Yet, his feeling are that Obamacare is illegal (that people can't be forced to pay for insurance regardless of the SCOTUS ruling) and that he shouldn't have to pay for other people's medical needs. Maybe a bit illogical but fair enough.

Until you consider, a few factors: he works in an at-will job that should be civil service and that his father is evidently a veteran of modest means. Currently, his father faces losing benefits because of family assets and they don't have enough to cover his needs without sufficient Medicare or his VA coverage. Now, to talk about voting against your own interests, the Rep state governor has already rejected Federal funds for Medicare/Medicaid as a ploy to make Obama look bad, but it's also a poor state. Guess who get caught in the middle of state's the decision to cut quite a bit of the program down?

So I asked him one day, why would you vote for someone that wants to dismantle the program in the way that Romney & Ryan advocate. He says that we need a small government and medical costs are expensive. My response is Ok but if that happens, you will have to pay MORE out of pocket because there are less programs out such as VA, Medicare/Medicaid, etc. His response was that we can handle it and the states will take on more. At this point, I'm thinking WTF? But asked, you do realize that if federal funding goes, many states will cut or eliminate the programs to meet their own budgets, so what do you think happens then? At this point, he didn't want to continue the conversation so changed the subject.

But he still wants to vote for Romney cuz Obama "has been horrible." So you never know...

This has been on my mind all day sunnystarr Oct 2012 #1
Hope you get better---and hope Medicare is still there for you. McCamy Taylor Oct 2012 #3
People forget that Medicare keeps parents out of poverty and alive. SharonAnn Oct 2012 #20
The "stupid" in this country is pretty widespread, I think. Plus, much of the RKP5637 Oct 2012 #2
My daughter-in-laws grandparents are on medicare. They are voting for Romney because southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #6
People with attitudes such as theirs, for whatever their reason, are holding this nation RKP5637 Oct 2012 #9
Thanks you are speaking for me also. You can't change stupid no matter how hard you try. southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #16
That is excellent!!! Ron White has a good skit on Stupid, yep, you just can't fix stupid. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2012 #21
Really true. I am at the point I don't even try to talk to them because they believe facts southernyankeebelle Oct 2012 #22
This whole election seems like an illusion sandyshoes17 Oct 2012 #4
The Obama campaign barely mentioned it. This is IB+MHO the biggest ***-up in this campaign BlueStreak Oct 2012 #5
I didn't know 40-55 years old LukeFL Oct 2012 #12
My point exactly. You don't understand. MILLIONS don't understand. BlueStreak Oct 2012 #13
You Never Know... mzteaze Oct 2012 #7
Let me put it to you this way RegieRocker Oct 2012 #8
They dont, so dont believe the bullshit...nt and-justice-for-all Oct 2012 #10
Has Romney flat out said he will abolish it? LukeFL Oct 2012 #11
Yes. He said it in the second debate and Obama didn't challenge it at all. BlueStreak Oct 2012 #14
Wording a question differently can get as much as a 50+ point shift in public opinion ShadowLiberal Oct 2012 #15
Obama has a good campaign, if I'm correct our PACS are suffering LeftInTX Oct 2012 #17
It's going to cost seniors some $600 if Romney trashes ACA flamingdem Oct 2012 #18
In the minds of the mushy undecided/swayable middle of the electorate... Silent3 Oct 2012 #19
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