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southerncrone

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42. We didn't just shoot ourselves in the foot; we shot ourselves in the head.

Reply to Grown2Hate (Reply #39)

Thu Oct 25, 2012, 12:09 AM

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Lawrence, LAWRENCE! I love ya, man... but REALLY? [View all] Grown2Hate Oct 2012 OP

We need as many votes in the blue states to win a popular vote as well as electoral vote victory. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #1

You're right -- we seem to have been talking about this in terms of one OR the other -- gateley Oct 2012 #52

Yeah, again, another reason not to watch MSNBC except for Krystal Ball lol GranholmFan Oct 2012 #2

I had to turn it off, it made me so angry. drm604 Oct 2012 #3

I know that was the stupiedest thing he has ever done. What an ass. demgrrrll Oct 2012 #4

Who's signing his paycheck? Blue Owl Oct 2012 #5

I saw that too Politicalboi Oct 2012 #6

Agreed. It's not good to take the efforts of others with a free ride on their work. It's just plane patrice Oct 2012 #7

MSNBC is really doing everything they can to destroy the Democratic Party RomneyLies Oct 2012 #8

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing... BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #9

With friends like this, who needs enemies? LisaL Oct 2012 #10

Fuck third parties. They gave us Bush. nt onehandle Oct 2012 #11

Lawrence just showed the "537 Votes" from the Obama Campaign. It made me angry at the '00 election.. AaronMayorga Oct 2012 #16

After the horror of the Bush years, Dawson Leery Oct 2012 #17

To be fair, he did say you'd be crazy to do so in a battleground state, citing Nader in FL in Grown2Hate Oct 2012 #19

Exactly. LisaL Oct 2012 #23

That doesn't matter. You NEVER see 3rd party out doing the actual grunt work of patrice Oct 2012 #33

Agree, however they don't even care about the votes, they just want some financial support. n/t FSogol Oct 2012 #46

It's frustrating; they think being more or less right is all that it takes & if they work with patrice Oct 2012 #47

Just let the popular vote go to a Republican loser in the Electorial College. gordianot Oct 2012 #12

Bad Idea! Lawrence should retract that statement. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #13

The Green Party is being built from the ground up see this list LiberalElite Oct 2012 #14

Impressive. I'd say that's a good start. It will take YEARS to get viability in statewide/national Grown2Hate Oct 2012 #18

Democrats are better hrmjustin Oct 2012 #20

Democrats ARE better. When it comes to the nuts and bolts of how things happen. Green is out in lala patrice Oct 2012 #34

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unless we have instant runoff voting, third parties are pointless and self-defeating Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #27

He said what? ffr Oct 2012 #15

Yeah, hasn't he heard about that whole Popular Vote thing..and the Cha Oct 2012 #21

Contact MSNBC > Lawrence ODonnell page link: patrice Oct 2012 #24

It worked. I sent in a complaint. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #28

Rachel upset me too katmondoo Oct 2012 #25

Let's HOPE they're trying to motivate us to get our asses out and vote? (at least Rachel... don't Grown2Hate Oct 2012 #30

What good does it do to build up a third party, even in a 'safe' state? Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #26

Agreed! ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #29

This is what we get from the few Democrats on Cable News? Unreal Thrill Oct 2012 #31

Dumb Dumb Dumb. nevergiveup Oct 2012 #32

+1 nsd Oct 2012 #37

Plus, the third party candidates are a joke, a waste of a vote n/t flamingdem Oct 2012 #35

It's actually BAD for 3rd parties. We agree with their platforms, but they themselves are parasites patrice Oct 2012 #38

There is ONE exception to this. southerncrone Oct 2012 #36

Absolutely right. TN screwed the pooch on that one. :( NT Grown2Hate Oct 2012 #39

We didn't just shoot ourselves in the foot; we shot ourselves in the head. southerncrone Oct 2012 #42

Sometimes a buffoon with a nice name can win the primary. LisaL Oct 2012 #43

Yes, of course. LisaL Oct 2012 #40

I don't even agree with this. drm604 Oct 2012 #44

In some local races there is no democrat running. LisaL Oct 2012 #48

In that case of course you can't vote Democrat and have to choose the best candidate that is running drm604 Oct 2012 #49

He is completely unacceptable. southerncrone Oct 2012 #50

Keep in mind he's not a Democrat, he's a practical European socialist or whatever. tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #41

I was reminded of the time Keith Olberman said, he never voted in elections FSogol Oct 2012 #45

I watch LO sporadically. Can't take the nightly Rush clips. What's that all about? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #51

LO reversed himself on Friday's show ffr Oct 2012 #53

I knew he'd do that! flamingdem Oct 2012 #55

He is not stupid! defacto7 Oct 2012 #54

Ultimately pulled the trigger for President Obama. I'll take it. :) NT Grown2Hate Oct 2012 #56