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2016 Postmortem

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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 08:41 AM Mar 2016

Green Party’s Stein Predicts DNC Will Sabotage Sanders, Try to Reabsorb Supporters [View all]

I am NOT advocating anyone vote Jill Stein or Green Party -- but you have to know they're likely right about this...DNC has done it before.

Physician Jill Stein, who is seeking the Green Party’s nomination for president in 2016, has called Bernie Sanders’ 2016 Democratic presidential campaign “wonderful” and stated that the Green Party “will not attack that campaign.”

However, she told RT on Saturday, “But unfortunately he is in a party that has a track record for basically sabotaging its rebels. It has done a good job of doing that in the past from Dennis Kucinich to Jesse Jackson to Howard Dean, whether they use a PR campaign like the ‘Dean’s scream’ to bring down the Dean candidacy. Also Jesse Jackson was sabotaged by a PR by the DNC. The Democratic Party has its ways of reigning people in if they try to rebel. The bottom line is that we are in political system in the U.S., which is funded by predatory banks and fossil fueled giants and war profiteers. So, we really need to reject that system, we say to reject the lesser evil so we can stand up and really fight for the greater good.”

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In a Monday interview on New England Public Radio, Stein said, “What’s been happening in the Democratic Party is you’ll have a good candidate who will run, but then the candidate gets reabsorbed and the campaign becomes reabsorbed back into the Democratic Party. So it’s kind of a fake left while the party becomes more corporatist, more militarist, and continues to march to the right.”

She called the grassroots movement that Sanders has tapped into a “rebellion” that “can’t simply be passed on to Hillary Clinton.”


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The socialists called this months ago. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #1
Thank you! It's the policies, not the man. My vote won't follow Bernie if he stumps for Hillary.nt PonyUp Mar 2016 #18
regardless which party wins, if its not Bernie, I see big problems ahead Baobab Mar 2016 #221
Nailed it Mbrow Mar 2016 #26
That's true. LWolf Mar 2016 #31
In marketing it is called "bait and switch" GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #59
Except, of course, that the DNC apparently has stopped doing college campus signup drives Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2016 #65
which would mean they don't have much faith in the switchability of younger voters GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #71
Great point creatives4innovation Mar 2016 #99
God, that's disgustig. I guess we're all demorethuglicans. snowy owl Mar 2016 #188
registration drives are organized locally by campaigns, for fucks sake. always were. bettyellen Mar 2016 #203
Democrats need to be in Geneva, to get public health care and education removed from Baobab Mar 2016 #141
This needs to be an OP, Baobob! I will Rec and Kick it! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #173
There is a really good book "Serving Whose Interests" by Jane Kelsey which is a history Baobab Mar 2016 #209
Nonsense. We have done it on a smaller scale and we can do it now. We'e richest nation bjobotts Mar 2016 #238
Bernie has been an outspoken opponent of 95% of bad policy Baobab Mar 2016 #213
Nothing opens peoples' minds as much as seeing that one example that shows what IS possible. GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #214
Bernie really grows on you. Baobab Mar 2016 #219
We would have to leave the WTO and dump all the other trade deals to have a government Baobab Mar 2016 #264
Absolutely and thank you! snowy owl Mar 2016 #187
So did I, and I'm a Clinton supporter anigbrowl Mar 2016 #224
"too short on political alliances to have a chance of success" is self-fulfilling prophecy. Maedhros Mar 2016 #228
Nope. Those are things you put in place before you announce your candidacy. anigbrowl Mar 2016 #230
The establishment is what got us into the mess we're in. Maedhros Mar 2016 #235
We will retake the senate.Things won';t be the same as now.We will take down corporate welfare bjobotts Mar 2016 #239
How about rw anti-abortion purity tests? That purity test is going nowhere, right? That Guy 888 Mar 2016 #244
the greens are the saboteurs. ... artyteacher Mar 2016 #2
Nader didn't give us Bush Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #10
+1 million. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #15
+2 million lame54 Mar 2016 #202
Didn't Scalia give us Bush? Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #212
They stole the election Mendocino Mar 2016 #217
Hell yes...and the rest of the Felonius Five noiretextatique Mar 2016 #253
.... bigwillq Mar 2016 #25
Tell yourself that. Adrahil Mar 2016 #40
If the current head of the Florida Democratic Party hadn't helped Jeb Bush purge the rolls. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #61
Learned something new, thanks artislife Mar 2016 #122
There were some really good posts here on DU during the Bush Admin Hydra Mar 2016 #216
Very good post. +1 BeanMusical Mar 2016 #147
Much applause for your post, Fuddnik! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #176
Rationalizations, not answers, are hiding in the elementary arithimetic HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #66
You might want to rethink that Perogie Mar 2016 #81
So its gets easier to leave the Presidential Box empty on the ballot and vote all D down ticket. DhhD Mar 2016 #101
The Nader-haters give them a pass noiretextatique Mar 2016 #254
If 200,000 Democrats had not voted for Bush in FL TM99 Mar 2016 #116
Well, not exactly... let's face it, Jeb! stealing the election for Big Bro that did it. Stolen is FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #160
Well, you don't have to yada yada me. TM99 Mar 2016 #167
sorry... not intending any disrespect! Modified the post. FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #185
Tensions are high today TM99 Mar 2016 #186
pretty sure I said it correctly Perogie Mar 2016 #174
I never responded to you but another poster. TM99 Mar 2016 #175
Bullshit. Maybe if thousands of Democrats in Florida hadn't voted for Bush... progressoid Mar 2016 #191
if gore ran a better campaign... lame54 Mar 2016 #204
see post #61 below. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #63
It's amazing how everyone who seems to blame Nader for 2000 Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #88
I partially agree. Yes, Bush stole the election, but Nader made it much easier. nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #95
Nader didn't do jack shit. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #114
And, remember what Pat Buchanan said about his votes in FLA? KoKo Mar 2016 #135
No...purging 80k eligible voters made it easier noiretextatique Mar 2016 #256
Yeah, it's easier to blame Nader than admit your candidate's campaign was stillborn Mufaddal Mar 2016 #125
It is disgusting really noiretextatique Mar 2016 #255
Thank you for that RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #87
+1 mmonk Mar 2016 #131
+1 n/t Triana Mar 2016 #155
Thank you! +100 Duppers Mar 2016 #179
Don't forget Sandy O'Conner's sell out. The fix was in. May they all rot in hell. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #241
Bull-fucking-shit. blackspade Mar 2016 #13
Exactly! Jeb! could not steal it definitively enough (not for lack of trying) so FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #161
Jeb! could not steal it definitively enough AlbertCat Mar 2016 #205
+1000 the goal of democrats against democracy noiretextatique Mar 2016 #258
No, I think they are the Igor to the republican's Frankenstein. KitSileya Mar 2016 #14
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #69
And Perot gave us Bill Clinton. eom zalinda Mar 2016 #166
Yes, so they knew how advantageous third party candidates are KitSileya Mar 2016 #168
It's not Democrats that you have to worry about zalinda Mar 2016 #234
Why do people keep repeating a Republican meme on a Democratic board? A Simple Game Mar 2016 #16
Nader helped Bush... artyteacher Mar 2016 #28
Gore's poorly run campaign gave Bush more votes than Nader ever could have. A Simple Game Mar 2016 #44
Doesn't excuse Nader or the Greens ... sorry eom artyteacher Mar 2016 #46
Then maybe you could start a petition to ban third parties or something. Maybe make it illegal A Simple Game Mar 2016 #54
I'll humor your conspiracy theory. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #218
If the Democrats want the votes of the left they should pursue leftist policies. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #107
You mean to add that moves to further away to the right with each passing year. nt artislife Mar 2016 #124
158 million people didn't vote for Gore and you want to blame Nader. Blame the hubris of the DLC rhett o rick Mar 2016 #242
80k voters purged in Florida helped Bush noiretextatique Mar 2016 #259
Fuck Nader sellitman Mar 2016 #64
Excellent reply and it keeps life simpler and easier to ignore what is a complicated scenario. n/t A Simple Game Mar 2016 #70
Thank you! And imagine how much less damage there would have been to the environment Tanuki Mar 2016 #74
Betcha some of these purity trolls are placed sellitman Mar 2016 #98
Live and learn Perogie Mar 2016 #77
How many of those "Democrats" NewJeffCT Mar 2016 #112
speculation Perogie Mar 2016 #177
Urban legend. PDittie Mar 2016 #103
But it is y'all that are rewriting history. TM99 Mar 2016 #119
+1000 noiretextatique Mar 2016 #260
They are pissed at the truth. TM99 Mar 2016 #261
I've noticed that... noiretextatique Mar 2016 #262
Well, it would take more mental TM99 Mar 2016 #263
all true lapfog_1 Mar 2016 #76
Yes, the final recount showed that Gore won. senz Mar 2016 #142
Green party is generally anti-war you know FreedomRain Mar 2016 #20
hard to claim that when they help the pro war GOP. eom artyteacher Mar 2016 #29
And the GOP helps the Green Party! Over and over again, they have financed Greens Tanuki Mar 2016 #78
Sorry go look at the facts again. Mbrow Mar 2016 #32
13% of Democrats voted for Bush. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #43
Yep. nt artislife Mar 2016 #129
Wasn't Nader's fault that the Democrats nyabingi Mar 2016 #47
One could also argue ejbr Mar 2016 #62
And Did Nader Give Us a Bush Second Term? gordyfl Mar 2016 #67
9/11 and fear gave us "4 more years" - n/t lapfog_1 Mar 2016 #80
People need to retire that kind thinking NWCorona Mar 2016 #75
Like it or not there are more than two parties in this DEMOCRACY. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #79
That bullshit again? Ignore list for you. Gene Debs Mar 2016 #90
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #196
Oh good fucking grief. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #91
Gore was his own worst enemy pinebox Mar 2016 #102
Agree 100% DAMANgoldberg Mar 2016 #158
Which Green Party senators voted for the wars? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #105
We got Bill because of Perot. nt artislife Mar 2016 #121
The death of a million or so Iraqis Kall Mar 2016 #151
The butterfly ballot cost Gore at least 2800 votes, possibly 3200 Turn CO Blue Mar 2016 #159
We have heard your talking point a million times. That doesn't make it true. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #165
If you teach art, you should know better than that. pangaia Mar 2016 #181
What about all the Jewish people that voted for anti-semitic Buchanon? Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #193
That is the short story. The longer story is it was the death of a thousand cuts! mrdmk Mar 2016 #200
NADER DID NOT GIVE US BUSH*!!! Raster Mar 2016 #220
Good fucking hell TransitJohn Mar 2016 #243
Nah that would be New Democrats, pining for "Republicans We Can Work With" That Guy 888 Mar 2016 #245
Spot on 4dsc Mar 2016 #3
I appreciate her unbiased analysis nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #4
Spot on. nt VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #5
Yep. Bad strategy. mmonk Mar 2016 #6
They won't be absorbing me Doctor_J Mar 2016 #7
Me neither. Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #11
Me either n/t MissDeeds Mar 2016 #73
me either. I am now an Independent. I am no longer a Democrat. If a Democrat wants my liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #83
Every day I'm finding it harder and harder to Svafa Mar 2016 #118
I'm with you! TheUndecider Mar 2016 #146
Thoughts CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #8
I'm new AhhMass Mar 2016 #39
I've only been here about a week and almost didn't join because of that loyalty clause you highlight BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #85
Don't say it once the nominee is selected Kittycat Mar 2016 #94
Jack pine radicals is where the cool kids are JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #150
You're allowed to say it until the nominee is selected and the primary is over Oilwellian Mar 2016 #100
Wow AhhMass Mar 2016 #152
Well said! john978 Mar 2016 #41
I wish I could rec this post a hundred times. bunnies Mar 2016 #149
The DNC's problem is that Hillary represents a lot that the revolution is against. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #9
True - this isn't revolution vs. revolution-lite demwing Mar 2016 #17
I know what side I'm on but then I've been a radical all of my life! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #23
That's what makes me concerned about a Hillary nomination... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #68
you forgot corporatist rule. RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #93
How could I forget that? demwing Mar 2016 #96
Good luck with that. n/t tazkcmo Mar 2016 #12
Green Party knows a little something about sabotage. oasis Mar 2016 #19
Gee, it would be awful if that ever happened. Orsino Mar 2016 #21
From what I read, Thespian2 Mar 2016 #22
Well, the trade deals will make them all symbolic only Baobab Mar 2016 #222
Jill Stein is wicked smart. It's good to have choices in life. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #24
... bigwillq Mar 2016 #27
So it’s kind of a fake left while the party becomes more corporatist, more militarist, and continues UglyGreed Mar 2016 #30
I'll vote for the candidate that most closely aligns with my goals and values pengu Mar 2016 #33
Seriously. That's what GWB brought us. Kittycat Mar 2016 #97
I'm against The Traveler Mar 2016 #163
I think you have me confused Kittycat Mar 2016 #171
Jill Stein talking to RT... SidDithers Mar 2016 #34
Who else are they going to talk to? randome Mar 2016 #36
No one else will listen to the Green Party. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #51
They aren't Libertarians. Libertarians have a party. mmonk Mar 2016 #144
I already cast my ballot for Bernie Not Sure Mar 2016 #35
Not unexpected loyalsister Mar 2016 #37
Sanders represents the Federation, Clinton is the Borg Android3.14 Mar 2016 #38
The Borg? Sounds Swedish. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #52
Heheh GreenPartyVoter Mar 2016 #89
Finally! Someone who gets it Android3.14 Mar 2016 #106
This message was self-deleted by its author coyote Mar 2016 #42
How completely odd that a third party candidate would be trying to create an issue in the Democratic PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #45
The Democrats and Clinton created this issue Armstead Mar 2016 #117
There is no sabotage. The Sanders campaign is losing quite well on their own. In fact the only still_one Mar 2016 #48
Dont count your chickens padfun Mar 2016 #180
no, I don't assume any winner, but the Jill Stein OP predicting sabotage by just throwing out shit still_one Mar 2016 #198
As will I. It's too important of an election padfun Mar 2016 #210
The Democratic primary with both Bernie and Hillary is going to go to the end. The California still_one Mar 2016 #215
She must be a genius or have a crystal ball or something. freedom fighter jh Mar 2016 #49
The DNC is sabotaging itself, but the tonedeaf leadership doesn't realize it. marmar Mar 2016 #50
I think the DNC knows what it is doing. Beowulf Mar 2016 #86
+1000. Thoughtful, knowledgable, interesting analysis. senz Mar 2016 #154
Thank you! Beowulf Mar 2016 #157
They have focused on the battle with no thought to the war. nt artislife Mar 2016 #134
I won't be reabsorbed. Just think - I have asked many many times why it is okay for djean111 Mar 2016 #53
Ain't that the truth! Fuddnik Mar 2016 #123
And the DNC still expects me to give them money! What a farce this all is! n/t djean111 Mar 2016 #128
Why is it OK for DWS to openly support HRC? Isn't DWS supposed to neutral? Raster Mar 2016 #236
Judging by her past actions, I almost expect Disaster Debbie to endorse her "friend" Rubio any day. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #246
The pro-corporate, right-leaning Democrats nyabingi Mar 2016 #55
it's like we are just High-Absorbancy Diapers...well...maybe they have loaded us up islandmkl Mar 2016 #56
They will try. Fearless Mar 2016 #57
I cannot ejbr Mar 2016 #58
Stein's opinion is about as relevant to the party as Trump's is, i.e. not at all Tarc Mar 2016 #60
You can dismiss her, but not the base of voters that simply don't support Hillary Kittycat Mar 2016 #104
+1 Historic NY Mar 2016 #127
It can't be passed on to Her - LiberalElite Mar 2016 #72
The really sad thing is EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #82
I agree. I can't simply be passed on to Hillary Clinton. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #84
Geez, Guys . . . Gamecock Lefty Mar 2016 #92
Jill's commenting on exactly that point: i.e. why she doesn’t join Bernie's campaign .. 99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #109
You sound as though you don't know who Stein is pinebox Mar 2016 #110
If Hillary fans want a woman President so bad, Fuddnik Mar 2016 #132
Very good question, Fuddnik! ccinamon Mar 2016 #145
How can the DNC sabotage Sanders' campaign? George II Mar 2016 #108
Agreed...I also will not be passed on. SoapBox Mar 2016 #111
I voted for Jill Stein in 2012 and suffered no particular inconvenience in doing so. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #113
Philosophically I understand voting the candidate with views closest to one own. TheUndecider Mar 2016 #153
The Green Party and Nader are absolutely correct on many of the issues Armstead Mar 2016 #115
Isn't that the purpose of the Green Party Historic NY Mar 2016 #130
You totally missed the point Armstead Mar 2016 #136
Two words for you on Nader... Historic NY Mar 2016 #138
You have a nice day yourself Armstead Mar 2016 #140
You know what is the largest group of voters in the US right now? Independents nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #169
And I'll be one again, right after the Florida General Primary in August. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #247
Well said, Armstead! ccinamon Mar 2016 #148
My vote for Bernie is non-transferable. I am voting for his policies. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #120
+1. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #126
Lifting the Veil. Time to see this again. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #133
Mother Earth says: Adapt to change, or become extinct. And the DINOS are not evolved enough to Zorra Mar 2016 #137
I get it...Bernie Sanders is about to crash? brooklynite Mar 2016 #156
Looks like Bernie is about to Part the Waters. The RED Sea where all the DINOS have ended up! DhhD Mar 2016 #197
Absorb this! whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #139
She is right -- ccinamon Mar 2016 #143
Cut It Out - Get in line SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #162
TPP, Climate Change, Endless Wars.................. jalan48 Mar 2016 #164
THE DNC is toast Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #182
My gosh, was there any doubt? nichomachus Mar 2016 #170
Stein may be right Wibly Mar 2016 #172
Many, if not the majority, of Bernie supporters will not vote for Hillary. They will sit out of the Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #178
The Democratic Party is leaving me, not the other way around. Ikonoklast Mar 2016 #183
The DNC and Clinton think our vote doesn't have to be EARNED. arcane1 Mar 2016 #184
Fuck no. They act like it's owed. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #248
Bernie or Bust pledge a sign that support can move to the green party socialistforpeople Mar 2016 #189
Jill Stein is a smart lady PoliticalMalcontent Mar 2016 #190
After Capehart & Civil Rights swiftboating tblue Mar 2016 #192
The Green Party is a joke. RBInMaine Mar 2016 #194
So people can stop blaming Nader for whatever then I guess Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #232
The Green Party will essentially stand down if Sanders gets the nomination and try to help him Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #195
So you want another Bush Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #229
Uhhhhhh.... Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #233
You want a Bush in a skirt. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #249
If that's true the DNC will be in for a rude surprise. pa28 Mar 2016 #199
not attack the campaign?... lame54 Mar 2016 #201
They may absorb my vote just this once to avoid a Trump or Cruz. retrowire Mar 2016 #206
This Green Party Member Feels The Bern corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #207
K&R yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #208
Ah yes, "Monstrum in erroris" ... the ol' 'scheming monster' meme...LOL! Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 #211
Comparing Clinton to a paper towel tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #223
She lost last time shenmue Mar 2016 #225
"Reabsorb"? bvf Mar 2016 #226
She is undoubtably right on that. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #227
Oh, you mean Jill "I'd prefer Romney win" Stein? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2016 #231
She Is Likely Correct colsohlibgal Mar 2016 #237
The "Green" Party also told us Bush = Gore. The tens of thousands of dead Iraqis might not agree. NNadir Mar 2016 #240
Yah, everyone know that US "progressives" love to be kicked around. delrem Mar 2016 #250
And why exactly do I care what the party of Nader 2000 has to say about anything? McCamy Taylor Mar 2016 #251
You seem to be convinced that the only reason that Hillary has not already been awarded the djean111 Mar 2016 #252
It was blatant yesterday with Billy and his BULLhorn. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #257
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