2016 Postmortem

morningfog

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30. She will not win 10 of the 12.

Thu Feb 18, 2016, 04:21 PM

Feb 2016

Of course, you folks were telling us Bernie would not even make it to have his home state vote. THen we were told, he'd win only one state.

Now he is leading in many and national polls within 2.

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Sanders opens up leads in Alaska +14%; Maine +15%; Massachusetts +7%; Vermont +76% (WOW - 76%!) [View all] Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2016 #1

If you'd like to run with that, then we'll also be talking about Clinton not getting 100% in NY. nt jeff47 Feb 2016 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author MohRokTah Feb 2016 #10

Why aren't his numbers higher than ****86%***???? gcomeau Feb 2016 #16

Is Clinton hated in NY? jeff47 Feb 2016 #25

We have our reasons..... daleanime Feb 2016 #56

On Wall Street, no, she's much loved; elsewhere in NY, she's not nearly as popular. Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #57

he's had double digits in Alaska for over a month given the last polling. :D roguevalley Feb 2016 #66

My lifelong Dem, upper West Side dtr. calls her the carpetbagger.. Divernan Feb 2016 #67

Really? Never been to New York? aquart Feb 2016 #145

If only you could celebrate Bernie without the attacks of Hillary... randys1 Feb 2016 #103

It's nice of you to show up after he deleted his attack post. jeff47 Feb 2016 #134

Bernie Sanders Emerging In Some States JGug1 Feb 2016 #163

You do know how absurd that sounds... right? kenfrequed Feb 2016 #18

The post was self deleted,mhow silly was it? Nt Logical Feb 2016 #54

He was claiming it was awful Sanders wasn't polling at 100%. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #58

You can tell they are getting worried more every day! Nt Logical Feb 2016 #63

Bernie does poll at 100% Mnpaul Feb 2016 #142

86%? You sneer at 86%? ebayfool Feb 2016 #20

They don't make me angry anymore - they now only induce laughter. reformist2 Feb 2016 #38

And then cowardly delete the posts so others can't see how bad they look! ebayfool Feb 2016 #52

Interesting Sheepshank Feb 2016 #99

Dunno, I didn't see what was deleted. This one I did. n/t ebayfool Feb 2016 #101

So where does Senator Sanders live? George II Feb 2016 #75

Vermont. Where does Secretary Clinton live? frylock Feb 2016 #78

Vermont. Is there a point you wish to make? n/t ebayfool Feb 2016 #81

Point? "Vermont +76% (WOW - 76%!)" George II Feb 2016 #96

Yes - Sanders 86%; Clinton 10% = 76% lead ebayfool Feb 2016 #98

No, look again. You responded to me. George II Feb 2016 #108

I think we gots a 'chain of custody' reply problem! ebayfool Feb 2016 #141

Chances are it will be well over twice that cali Feb 2016 #118

He lives in Vermont were he has either been… tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #92

Sounds like my kind of candidate! Kittycat Feb 2016 #106

Where did Bill Clinton live? Helen Borg Feb 2016 #149

There are two big pieces of news in New York. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #28

I'm looking forward to Cuomo campaigning for her in NY. wavesofeuphoria Feb 2016 #122

Uh. New York votes blue in the presidential. aquart Feb 2016 #146

Clinton will be accused of fraud if Sanders doesn't make 100% KingFlorez Feb 2016 #33

Make sure you have plenty of food and water.... daleanime Feb 2016 #60

Thanks for the laughs!! reformist2 Feb 2016 #35

Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #43

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #2

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PPP's last NH poll: Clinton 47, Sanders 44. jeff47 Feb 2016 #6

Bingo! kenfrequed Feb 2016 #24

PPP ... Trajan Feb 2016 #112

Just as I suspected. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #117

I may need to pull that back ... Trajan Feb 2016 #121

It's fun to say it anyway. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #139

Hah ... Not as fun as nailing them for the real bought and paid for polling Trajan Feb 2016 #144

this alone should disequalife PPP Robbins Feb 2016 #29

Maybe their MOE was 25 points LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #158

Superdelegates do not count until the convention - sorry. jillan Feb 2016 #12

You can keep going with that if you like. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #15

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Pft we will know after Saturday's poll what percent of a chance Bernie has to win. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #26

Hill is UNELECTABLE. She is viewed as the most dishonest candidate in either party cali Feb 2016 #17

Sorry, but it's complete horseshit that she's more dishonest than Donald effing Trump. nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #42

Not according to polls cali Feb 2016 #47

oops, misread your post, didn't see the "is seen as "--apologies nt geek tragedy Feb 2016 #49

she's 'more honest than f*ing Trump' ... you do know how bad that sounds, right? roguevalley Feb 2016 #68

I agree with geek tragedy. greymouse Feb 2016 #79

Since... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #159

He's up in Arizona too. They reported it on the local news but I have not found the link - yet. jillan Feb 2016 #5

I'm not sure it makes any sense to still consider SheilaT Feb 2016 #7

Wow. CentralMass Feb 2016 #8

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #9

"But Clinton leads in 10 of the 12 states that vote on March 1....." brooklynite Feb 2016 #11

Clinton is dropping while Sanders is rising in those states, and Sanders has time to flip many more! Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #14

I think that the reason she leads until voting is because of the vast ocean of people who don't have roguevalley Feb 2016 #70

You've got mail! Kittycat Feb 2016 #110

I just showed my 9yo that Paulie Feb 2016 #130

Lol. I did the same! Kittycat Feb 2016 #131

I powered up my TI-99/4a circa 1983 a couple months ago Paulie Feb 2016 #132

+1 Kittycat Feb 2016 #133

You might enjoy this: beac Feb 2016 #156

Oh gawd, my 90 yr old parents still have AOL Oilwellian Feb 2016 #123

I convinced my 82 year old mother a few years ago to dump AOL. neverforget Feb 2016 #136

She will not win 10 of the 12. morningfog Feb 2016 #30

More like ignored KingFlorez Feb 2016 #31

PPP (a robo-call pollster that has about a 10% pro-Clinton in-house effect) polled only 12 of 14 Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #55

I can't say for certain, but I thought I read somewhere... mak3cats Feb 2016 #128

I have been assured by wiser minds that Bernie doesn't have the money to compete LondonReign2 Feb 2016 #160

So, I have a question . . Mike__M Feb 2016 #13

Heh...since hers is nonexistent, nope! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #44

Yes, at least as portable as the goal posts HRC is using. dchill Feb 2016 #157

ERHMAGHERD SEVENTY-SIX PERCENT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Tarc Feb 2016 #19

Sanders is winning his home 87% to 10%; Hillary was ahead just 47% to 42% in December in her home! Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #40

Well, obviously he's well-known in Vermont, so I'd say that huge swing must winter is coming Feb 2016 #53

FWIW - she has more of the VT superdelegates than he does. 4 to 2 with 3 uncommitted. :) Lucinda Feb 2016 #64

if she tries the super delegate route to circumvent the will of the people she will be very roguevalley Feb 2016 #72

Our primaries use a delegate system to determine our nominee. The one with the most wins. Lucinda Feb 2016 #84

super delegates were designed to end insurgent candidates. I have loathed the system since forever. roguevalley Feb 2016 #91

I pretty much agree. I think we could easily go one person one vote. I'm not sure that the reasons Lucinda Feb 2016 #94

I agree. secondwind Feb 2016 #93

How many did she have in 2008? frylock Feb 2016 #83

Buying lobbyists super delegates for the nomination, yeah sounds like a Hillary move. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #85

She isn't buying anyone. That whole attempt at a smear is beyond silly. Lucinda Feb 2016 #87

Un-democratic Steven.kelly9850 Feb 2016 #125

I've been in the party long enough to know... Oilwellian Feb 2016 #126

No truer words were ever spoken. urbuddha Feb 2016 #152

You're right, it shows that the more people know Bernie, the more they like him. corkhead Feb 2016 #107

If the Vermont numbers play out, Clinton leaves with NO delegates from that state. eom Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #21

Senators from Maine and Mass. have not yet endorsed either Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #23

The Maine senators are Independent and Republican. Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2016 #181

Senator King votes and caucuses with the Dems Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #182

Yes, that is true Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2016 #185

Great news. Go for the delegate shut out in Vermont! Hope he holds that 86% +. morningfog Feb 2016 #27

AK, ME care about hunting. I think Bernie's reasonable stance on hunting rifles is helping him there thereismore Feb 2016 #32

Clinton 10% Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #34

Why did you do that? PonyUp Feb 2016 #39

Why not? Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #41

Where are you getting some of those polls from as being close? book_worm Feb 2016 #36

I can't see Hillary not winning by 75% in Arkansas especially with the women. The women I knew in LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #114

where does the OP mention Arkansas? nt magical thyme Feb 2016 #127

He's down 2 points in Wisconsin. 45/43. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #37

Wisconsin is well within the margin of error with Clinton dropping like a rock as Sanders is soaring Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #46

I've been saying for a while now Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #45

State Education Ranking Shows Vermont #1, South Carolina Last SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #48

Just because you keep saying that over and over again doesn't make it true. blue neen Feb 2016 #138

In short: Hillary is toast! Helen Borg Feb 2016 #50

Don't be fooled angrychair Feb 2016 #51

Hillary seems to do the best in the old Confederate states. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #59

I think they are probably looking at results on how she did in 2008 against a black man. LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #115

I agree; the youth vote is crucial. n/t TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #119

I think the kids know that this is their shot at fixing some stuff. It is just so right that LiberalArkie Feb 2016 #120

Jury results, I was one of those who didn't comment. merrily Feb 2016 #154

I'm from the south, so I can speak from first hand experience. TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #170

K & R! SoapBox Feb 2016 #61

Too bad for Senator Sanders most of America looks nothing like any of those states. DCBob Feb 2016 #62

Forget something there..? pkdu Feb 2016 #65

Sanders looks strong in 5 of 14 Super Tuesday states. He looks strong in 4 of 6 states a week later, Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #69

"Looks Strong"...what does that actually mean? nt pkdu Feb 2016 #71

Winning. Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #77

Not according to 538 Politics , not even close, ....what source(s) are you using? pkdu Feb 2016 #88

The same way he "looked strong" before IW, NH, Nyan Feb 2016 #137

See post #88 pkdu Feb 2016 #147

on land line polls roguevalley Feb 2016 #74

Impressive, anything south of Springfield MA? George II Feb 2016 #73

The list of battleground states DOES grow because Hillary is free falling as Sanders' support grows Vote2016 Feb 2016 #89

.. mcar Feb 2016 #95

Go, Bernie GO!! AzDar Feb 2016 #76

I'm not real religious but Merryland Feb 2016 #80

Hillary is counting on winning the primary by winning states who have no intention... lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #82

Holy smokes! blackspade Feb 2016 #86

where are you getting your data from? lz103 Feb 2016 #90

The source links are embedded in the post. Click the state names for sources. PoliticalMalcontent Feb 2016 #100

Thank you!!! lz103 Feb 2016 #104

Sanders far outpaces Clinton in gen. election (RealClearPolitics) iwannaknow Feb 2016 #97

Awesome! trillion Feb 2016 #102

Sanders will win Indiana (prediction) INdemo Feb 2016 #105

WOW !! SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #109

We knew that Vermont was a given, but... I still like to see that difference. :) nt retrowire Feb 2016 #111

Forward! Charge those giants! Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #113

Kicked and recommended! Go, Bernie! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #116

Since New York is Clinton's "home state" jonestonesusa Feb 2016 #124

She is roundly detested in Upstate, which is heavy Republican registration. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #155

It is exciting and will get even better for Bernie. Duval Feb 2016 #129

I may have been wrong, he might win 5 or 6 states not just 2. n/t OhZone Feb 2016 #135

Alaska doesn't count...we have NO diversity Ken Burch Feb 2016 #140

This is getting more and more exciting. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #143

This post has 58206 views Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #148

Wow. 17,000 facebook likes and 75,000 views. How does that even happen? Vote2016 Feb 2016 #166

Is this like the most successful DU thread of all time or what? Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #169

Kick and R BeanMusical Feb 2016 #150

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #151

Vermont 86% ? Something wrong - I mean 'right' - with the machines. Not Joe Chi Minh Feb 2016 #153

I thought Bernie was unelectable? napnap Feb 2016 #161

Good job, America. Orsino Feb 2016 #162

AND Colorado! John Poet Feb 2016 #164

Some people dispute this poll, but Predictwise and the state-by-state Morning Consult cross-tabs Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #174

Those are small states, but still good news. lark Feb 2016 #165

The big states generally have proportional delegate allocation so a win in a big state is not a big Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #186

my hope is up too.... kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #167

This thread has over 76,000 views Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #168

Cool! Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #171

What happens if it gets 100,000? Will it roll back to 0 like an old odometer? Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #172

Good question. Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #173

It went over 100,000. Nothing broke! DU still running. Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #178

Good to know (I was getting curious how it would report) Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #179

kicking amborin Feb 2016 #175

Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Feb 2016 #176

Add Nevada (+2%) and Colorado to the list of states where Sanders has opened up a lead! Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #177

good news! nt kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #180

27,000 likes and 105,000 views. That's inconceivable (and, yes, I do know what that word means) Vote2016 Feb 2016 #183

lol Attorney in Texas Feb 2016 #184

Damn, how'd I miss this thread? K&R! SMC22307 Feb 2016 #187