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2016 Postmortem

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libtodeath

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Fri Feb 12, 2016, 09:38 PM Feb 2016

Who whould FDR support? [View all]

During President Roosevelt's January 11, 1944 message to the Congress of the United States on the State of the Union, he said the following:[2]

It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.

This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.

As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.

We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.”[3] People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens. For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights
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Who whould FDR support? [View all] libtodeath Feb 2016 OP
FDR Would feel the Bern and so would Eleanor and Fala . orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #1
None of us will ever really know (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #2
Who is campaigning on his principles? libtodeath Feb 2016 #3
O'Malley? bigwillq Feb 2016 #6
Yep. A mystery wrapped in an enigma tk2kewl Feb 2016 #19
Right? I hate these. There's another one with MLK, and I hate that people ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #23
Silly Season! bigwillq Feb 2016 #30
... Allegedly. Agschmid Feb 2016 #36
Let me think I am bigwillq Feb 2016 #43
FDR of course, his last wishes were pretty much Democratic Socialism AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #4
Really he picked an obscure Sen. to be his VP..... Historic NY Feb 2016 #7
So I guess you think his economic bill of rights was a lie? libtodeath Feb 2016 #9
I just told you what he did.... Historic NY Feb 2016 #13
"but to challenge Congress to draft legislation to achieve these goals." libtodeath Feb 2016 #16
In 1945........... Historic NY Feb 2016 #32
Its FDR's own words, unless your saying that FDR was bullshitting, which I don't believe to be so AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #10
Stop trying to pretend that you are on the right side of the political divide AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #11
No you are I seen some more of your posts........ Historic NY Feb 2016 #14
Who whould FDR support? stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #5
LOL...Good one Armstead Feb 2016 #18
So would Jesus, Joseph, Moses, John the Baptist and MLK! leftofcool Feb 2016 #45
FDR would back Bernie. Hillary gets Kissinger. Broward Feb 2016 #8
That rather beggars the imagination hifiguy Feb 2016 #20
Wonderful post Carolina Feb 2016 #12
God, I feel old. He said that 50 days before I was born. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #15
This is a trick question, right? hifiguy Feb 2016 #17
Given his words it should not be but to some it seems to be. libtodeath Feb 2016 #21
The Democrat. George II Feb 2016 #22
I think it borders on self-aggrandizement to say the dead speak for you when they can't speak for upaloopa Feb 2016 #27
Yeah, its pretty amazing how many people who are no longer with us....... George II Feb 2016 #31
You mean Bernie don't you. The other one is a corporatist. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #38
Perhaps we should hold a seance and find out KingFlorez Feb 2016 #24
Hillary supposedly channeled Eleanor at one time libtodeath Feb 2016 #25
Dunno because he is dead. wildeyed Feb 2016 #26
Guess you think his own words mean nothing. libtodeath Feb 2016 #28
They are very nice. wildeyed Feb 2016 #29
I can see from his own words what he supported libtodeath Feb 2016 #33
What is shameful wildeyed Feb 2016 #34
Shameful is seeing FDR dispareged here because his policies and goals were actually liberal. libtodeath Feb 2016 #35
Discussing the legacy of historical wildeyed Feb 2016 #39
His legacy is what Bernie is standing for,not Hillary libtodeath Feb 2016 #41
No. wildeyed Feb 2016 #44
I put his legacy in the OP libtodeath Feb 2016 #48
It is not painful for me. wildeyed Feb 2016 #52
You put a partial legacy into your OP. Agschmid Feb 2016 #61
FDR's own words... Presidential Proclamation No. 2537 Agschmid Feb 2016 #37
Another slur against FDR,never said he was perfect in every way but his vision of economic justice libtodeath Feb 2016 #40
Facts and actual actions ARE NOT a slur. Agschmid Feb 2016 #42
When they can't defend their position, wildeyed Feb 2016 #47
You deny that FDR said what I put in the OP? libtodeath Feb 2016 #51
I dunno. wildeyed Feb 2016 #53
Bernie. Fans of FDR support Bernie. Its a natural affinity. RiverLover Feb 2016 #46
Thank you libtodeath Feb 2016 #49
No. wildeyed Feb 2016 #50
Sure,after you have spent how many posts libtodeath Feb 2016 #54
I am not attacking him. wildeyed Feb 2016 #55
Cool story. libtodeath Feb 2016 #57
Sure is, bro. wildeyed Feb 2016 #59
Here is a nonprofit org & its website which you clearly would benefit from perusing~ RiverLover Feb 2016 #56
She is not. wildeyed Feb 2016 #58
Wow. I have 3 books on the man & his photo on my freakin wall. Look at my profile. RiverLover Feb 2016 #60
No. wildeyed Feb 2016 #62
Not memes. Painfully obvious truths to anyone paying attention. RiverLover Feb 2016 #63
GAH! An MLK meme!!!!!! wildeyed Feb 2016 #64
Shallow. RiverLover Feb 2016 #65
mirror wildeyed Feb 2016 #72
The Four Freedoms speech. longship Feb 2016 #66
These sorts of posts are really silly mythology Feb 2016 #67
I really wish that people would remember FDR as he really was One of the 99 Feb 2016 #68
Nobody is trying to deify him libtodeath Feb 2016 #69
Not trying to tear him down One of the 99 Feb 2016 #70
I dont but his detractors suddenly seem to. libtodeath Feb 2016 #71
Did I post anything that was not the truth? One of the 99 Feb 2016 #74
Traditional New Deal progressives finally have a candidate... And that is what matters. tokenlib Feb 2016 #73
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