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2016 Postmortem

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ericson00

(2,707 posts)
Thu Feb 11, 2016, 01:05 PM Feb 2016

Stop Bernie-Splaining to Black Voters [View all]

Well said

I cannot tell you the number of people who have commented to me on social media that they don’t understand this support. “Don’t black folks understand that Bernie best represents their interests?” the argument generally goes. But from there, it can lead to a comparison between Sanders and the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.; to an assertion that Sanders is the Barack Obama that we really wanted and needed; to an exasperated “black people are voting against their interests” stance.

If only black people knew more, understood better, where the candidates stood — now and over their lifetimes — they would make a better choice, the right choice. The level of condescension in these comments is staggering.

Sanders is a solid candidate and his integrity and earnestness are admirable, but that can get lost in the noise of advocacy.

Tucked among all this Bernie-splaining by some supporters, it appears to me, is a not-so-subtle, not-so-innocuous savior syndrome and paternalistic patronage that I find so grossly offensive that it boggles the mind that such language should emanate from the mouths — or keyboards — of supposed progressives.
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Amen! Boomer Feb 2016 #1
I think what you refer to as Bernie-splaining casperthegm Feb 2016 #2
Context is all Boomer Feb 2016 #7
People supporting candidates button hole people. Armstead Feb 2016 #12
I'm curious. Has anybody button-holed you specifically? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #13
I see what you're saying casperthegm Feb 2016 #14
You miss the point hack89 Feb 2016 #11
I'd be willing to accept that... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #29
Perhaps the issue is a lot more complex than that? hack89 Feb 2016 #33
And Hillary has? How? notadmblnd Feb 2016 #55
Go ask POC - they are the ones that overwhelmingly support her hack89 Feb 2016 #56
I don't know any people of color who support HRC notadmblnd Feb 2016 #57
So all the polls that say otherwise are falsified? hack89 Feb 2016 #58
No, I said what I said. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #59
Ok. I know a bunch that do. nt hack89 Feb 2016 #60
Good, they'll cancel each others votes out at the polls then. notadmblnd Feb 2016 #61
I agree casperthegm Feb 2016 #34
I think a lot of it depends on context and tone mythology Feb 2016 #32
Personally I think the whole conversation is idiotic and racist. KentuckyWoman Feb 2016 #3
^ Yes Mike__M Feb 2016 #54
Some of us get this. I didn't always get this, but I do now. However, thereismore Feb 2016 #4
It's not that difficult. Boomer Feb 2016 #17
That's all good and reasonable, except this: thereismore Feb 2016 #27
I would remove the last paragraph. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #41
I changed it a bit. So far, I have not received any response from the original poster. thereismore Feb 2016 #48
Considering the manner in which this topic is currently being used by many on du.... NCTraveler Feb 2016 #50
Thank you! thereismore Feb 2016 #51
Golly gee, E. Do you think "structural racism" is a mystery? mikehiggins Feb 2016 #5
I disagree. It's just another way to stifle discussion. Armstead Feb 2016 #21
Stop Hillary splaining to Black voters AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #6
So are you are saying that you are close minded when it comes to Bernie Sanders ? CentralMass Feb 2016 #8
Who are these Bernie supporters that you believe are splaining to you and POC? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #9
I'm assuming you have missed the many posts here saying that mythology Feb 2016 #35
I was asking ericson00 a question. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2016 #37
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #10
Shhhhh! Don't talk about Bernie's accomplishments. Nobody needs to know. jillan Feb 2016 #15
White people aren't informerd about Bernie either. He is not a Name Brand Armstead Feb 2016 #16
What has Hillary ever done for the black community? Action, not just talk? /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #18
People of voting age are grown ups. If they want to vote against their own interests then I am cool GoneFishin Feb 2016 #19
I there a special place in hell for them? Or do only Clinton supporters get to claim that? Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #20
Charles Blow needs to stop Hillarysplaining the bullshit that.. 99Forever Feb 2016 #22
There's a lot of that posted around here farleftlib Feb 2016 #36
You can't possibly be this dense Boomer Feb 2016 #23
I have to say there has been an uptick in OPs and replies that match this. artislife Feb 2016 #24
How about this? mikehiggins Feb 2016 #28
Yes! artislife Feb 2016 #31
My husband is Puerto Rican. I'm Irish... one_voice Feb 2016 #46
I only have one brother left artislife Feb 2016 #53
I'm sorry about your parents & brother. one_voice Feb 2016 #63
K&R mcar Feb 2016 #25
There is a great deal of confusion why apologies for past bad acts are carrying more weight jeff47 Feb 2016 #26
They've already tried the "Jew" thing. eom mikehiggins Feb 2016 #30
Bernie's team and supporters are entitled to campaign for him. Get over it. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #38
Oh yeah because introducing yourself to people who don't know you is splaining. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #39
I would like some of the AA voters Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #40
But Hill-Splaining is perfectly OK? hobbit709 Feb 2016 #42
Of the blows i respect curtis SwampG8r Feb 2016 #43
Not sure what that is... cyberswede Feb 2016 #44
No one needed to "Bernie-Spain" to me. Nedsdag Feb 2016 #45
Right, because we have nothing in common. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2016 #47
ericson00, nice of you to drop this post and then desert from the conversation. Can you get back to thereismore Feb 2016 #49
I was busy, but I'm back ericson00 Feb 2016 #62
Nobody should be patronizing, insulting, overly presumptive, or condescending. TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #52
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