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2016 Postmortem

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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:42 PM Feb 2016

The DNC Just Screwed Over Bernie Sanders and Spit in Voters’ Faces [View all]

http://usuncut.com/news/the-dnc-superdelegates-just-screwed-over-bernie-sanders-and-spit-in-the-faces-of-voters/

You may have heard of superdelegates before today, but you may not have realized how antithetical the idea is to democracy itself until now.

Bernie Sanders took 60% of the popular vote among the Democratic race on Tuesday, but because of the delegate process, Bernie Sanders will leave with a minimum of 13 delegates. At the same time, challenger Hillary Clinton (who lost by more than a 20-point margin among the electorate) walks aways with no fewer than 15....

To break it down, New Hampshire has 24 “pledged” delegates determined by the vote, of which Sanders won 13 and Clinton won 9. However, the state also put forward 8 “superdelegates,” who are insiders in the state’s Democratic party who are free to vote how they choose. Six of these are already pledged to Clinton, with the other two remaining undecided, meaning Sanders can, at best, tie with Clinton, despite his commanding lead....

Clinton and the DNC aggressively courted the Democratic establishment long before the primaries began, creating a bulwark against the actual democratic process by using Clinton’s deep connections within the political establishment to shore up superdelegates.


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Here ya go bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #1
Page not found -none Feb 2016 #4
Here is the petition. SoapBox Feb 2016 #42
Done Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #54
Thanks for the link. GoneOffShore Feb 2016 #60
91K now Fawke Em Feb 2016 #151
Thanks, SoapBox. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #87
Done Punkingal Feb 2016 #98
Done CentralMass Feb 2016 #106
Done and done. Stryder Feb 2016 #114
Done! n/t ebayfool Feb 2016 #120
Done narnian60 Feb 2016 #125
Done! beac Feb 2016 #143
Thanks, SoapBox! MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #152
Done Luciferous Feb 2016 #155
Thanks! RiverLover Feb 2016 #159
Done (nt) bigwillq Feb 2016 #193
Done Half-Century Man Feb 2016 #126
Signed and commented. Fawke Em Feb 2016 #150
For this alone, she deserves to lose. And I believe she will. Her ties ViseGrip Feb 2016 #2
More and more each day I hope she loses. I'm fed up with the DNC and "The Establishment." RKP5637 Feb 2016 #7
She hooked them up to her Donors in exchange for their vote! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #47
^^^That^^^ onecaliberal Feb 2016 #104
I just got my ballot in the mail today, can't wait to mail it back tomorrow with Bernie checked. RKP5637 Feb 2016 #145
LOL. riversedge Feb 2016 #80
When you get into the big leagues get ready for hardball. oasis Feb 2016 #165
Oh really. Did you feel the same way when Barack Obama collected the most super delegates? pnwmom Feb 2016 #86
After he won the popular vote? frylock Feb 2016 #88
No, before. He had enough super delegates to win before the primaries were over, no matter pnwmom Feb 2016 #177
Yes, super delegates undermine democracy and clearly do NOT reflect the will of the people. avaistheone1 Feb 2016 #171
I'm a Sanders voter, but, I find it appalling that some of you understand so little blm Feb 2016 #121
Some animals are more equal than others. bvar22 Feb 2016 #180
nope - we have a representative govt and representative aspect to primary process - blm Feb 2016 #181
non issue restorefreedom Feb 2016 #3
Not acording to these people Dragonfli Feb 2016 #18
clinging to scraps. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #20
I am sure they took donations from her Donors too, locking Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #48
The Echo Chamber! HubertHeaver Feb 2016 #55
Amazing to see supposed Democrats openly cheer the idea of overruling the People. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #66
That's what I was thinking. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #91
Their problem. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #59
The next time they're correct about anything will be the first time. frylock Feb 2016 #89
What a crock of crap! The voting system in the US totally sucks. No wonder many Americans don't give RKP5637 Feb 2016 #5
If she loses the popular vote and steals the primary, lob1 Feb 2016 #6
If that happens, people will NOT get over it & she will lose. She will never be president. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #14
Yep. lob1 Feb 2016 #19
Yep... DUbeornot2be Feb 2016 #39
She won't lose the popular vote. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #93
REAL Democrats make up all of 30% of the electorate. frylock Feb 2016 #94
Let that comfort you. BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #111
No, I'm not, and I'm not the one in need of comfort. frylock Feb 2016 #131
I have seen so-called "Independents" BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #168
Hey, good for you. frylock Feb 2016 #172
You think that you are insulting BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #173
Had he run as an independent Yhr Democratic Party would be toast in the General. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #105
You can say that again (n/t) bread_and_roses Feb 2016 #113
If he ran as an independent then they would bitch about that. Really they are just pissed that GoneFishin Feb 2016 #153
Dude, this ain't the 1970's . that horse left the barn when 2banon Feb 2016 #140
I am no "dude" in any BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #169
uhh. pot meet kettle. 2banon Feb 2016 #170
Yep. And it will be time to tear it down. hifiguy Feb 2016 #123
It was the same thing 8 years ago corkhead Feb 2016 #8
God they are stupid.... so so so stupid NiteOwl1 Feb 2016 #9
I'm so fed up with her and the DNC! Someone someplace said, Bernie is the real thing, but RKP5637 Feb 2016 #13
Don't worry, she won't need the Superdelegates to secure the nomination n/t Godhumor Feb 2016 #10
All is well. frylock Feb 2016 #92
They can vote for whoever they want regardless who they are pledged to now. Concern troll. Pisces Feb 2016 #11
Concern troll who gave not one fuck about this for that past 25 years! bettyellen Feb 2016 #12
Truly bravenak Feb 2016 #162
It's Democratic Socialism in action. BKH70041 Feb 2016 #15
Wow, and that's funny to you Politicalboi Feb 2016 #21
Good BKH70041 Feb 2016 #23
THIS is our party - we are FDR Democrats. You DLCers are jwirr Feb 2016 #31
Well said. earthshine Feb 2016 #32
Yes Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #64
Prost! Well said! AllyCat Feb 2016 #130
+1000000 SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #133
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #44
Damn Old Codger Feb 2016 #49
I would have to question the intelligence of your statement. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #51
so you're doubling down on the hilarity of this situation, then? 0rganism Feb 2016 #53
You must be delusional lastone Feb 2016 #56
"Long term life"? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #78
I'd rather be a democratic socialist than a corporate whore. lob1 Feb 2016 #90
You go with that. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #95
Your Party is dying on the vine. frylock Feb 2016 #97
The will of the people be damned, eh? Plucketeer Feb 2016 #112
this is one of the most insulting and offensive posts I have seen on DU. grasswire Feb 2016 #147
Ever wonder where the conservative "Reagan Democrats" went? bvar22 Feb 2016 #182
Um, no. Democratic socialism is about fairness. JudyM Feb 2016 #22
This is why Hillary is losing. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #70
I never thought of it that way. The same thing happened in 2008. displacedtexan Feb 2016 #107
So why aren't you whining about independent voters having a say in the Democratic Party's Persondem Feb 2016 #16
They vote for their favorite candidate, which is a preview of their vote in the GE, so it's fair in JudyM Feb 2016 #24
Nice try at a rationalization. I don't buy it. nt Persondem Feb 2016 #35
I'm an independent who registered as a Dem dana_b Feb 2016 #27
I have no problem with that. So long as you are a registered Dem, then a democratic primary vote Persondem Feb 2016 #36
There was no need for you to register as a dem.. frylock Feb 2016 #103
I don't know where you get your information from, but ... aggiesal Feb 2016 #119
Thank you... Satch59 Feb 2016 #30
I have never been a registered Democrat Sophiegirl Feb 2016 #52
So why do you think you have the right to influence a group that you refuse to formally join? Persondem Feb 2016 #134
I don't refuse. Sophiegirl Feb 2016 #138
But you'll take their votes in the GE, right? frylock Feb 2016 #101
NEWSFLASH!! This is NOT the GE. NOT the same thing. Persondem Feb 2016 #135
So independents like myself have no say on who goes to the GE.. frylock Feb 2016 #136
Yes. If you want to dance, you should have to join the party. Persondem Feb 2016 #156
Well, tough shit. I live in a state with an open primary. frylock Feb 2016 #157
What a lovely democratic attitude. Cranky people stick together apparently. Persondem Feb 2016 #166
Are you fucking shitting me?! frylock Feb 2016 #167
Why do you think YOU have the right to influence an organization you do NOT belong to??!!! Persondem Feb 2016 #187
gooble gobble frylock Feb 2016 #189
And you know, you don't have to do any of that stuff to be a Democrat. All you have to do Persondem Feb 2016 #188
Desparately trying to retain the illusion of inevidability. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #17
pretty much it Go Vols Feb 2016 #33
Downticket races - including the superdelegates seeking re-election. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #41
Exactly. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #46
I heard on Thom Hartmann's show that Doitnow Feb 2016 #85
If The Democratic Party SDJay Feb 2016 #25
I'm feeling the same. OnionPatch Feb 2016 #164
Yay democracy! progressoid Feb 2016 #26
The really good news is that those "pledged" super-delegates jwirr Feb 2016 #28
The Super Delegate system should be ended. Eric J in MN Feb 2016 #29
I've Called Many Congress Critters And Said I Was Very Upset ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #34
I guess Sanders didn't read the rules Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #37
Don't you just hate it when you ask permission to have a revolution, and it is denied.? jtuck004 Feb 2016 #38
They are clueless idiots driving the party off a cliff. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #40
They are bluffing - TBF Feb 2016 #43
If super delegates tip the scales, there's no chance Hillary will be president. Broward Feb 2016 #45
^This^ HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #100
One small fallacy... basselope Feb 2016 #50
There is nothing new about this system. Superdelegates are always on the inside Jackie Wilson Said Feb 2016 #57
If they keep pulling this crap state after state, the people will have none of it and will show up litlbilly Feb 2016 #58
EXCELLENT IDEA! warrprayer Feb 2016 #75
Same shit, different election. Supers were a big deal in 2008 as well. Initially anyway. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #61
Eventually they saw the light and fled Clinton for Obama. Vinca Feb 2016 #67
Bernie got 15, Hillary got 9 Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #62
Glad to see some rejoice over this UglyGreed Feb 2016 #63
all i can say is ellennelle Feb 2016 #65
how do we get those? KamaAina Feb 2016 #72
Signed. Bubzer Feb 2016 #68
Democracy has now officially become a joke. Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #69
ps ellennelle Feb 2016 #71
Nope. KamaAina Feb 2016 #73
Me too warrprayer Feb 2016 #79
I think they block anyone that doesn't jillan Feb 2016 #149
kick Pharaoh Feb 2016 #74
If the DNC uses superdelegates to thwart the will of the voters, I'll leave the party. backscatter712 Feb 2016 #76
signed stage left Feb 2016 #77
Do I detect an SC flag? KamaAina Feb 2016 #81
Yes, you do. stage left Feb 2016 #186
If I believed in a higher being... gcomeau Feb 2016 #82
Once the POTUS election is over, for better or worse, the Dem dae Feb 2016 #83
I don't know why they're including the superdelegates in these tallies Jarqui Feb 2016 #84
This present election mess PATRICK Feb 2016 #96
Not that bad. Superdelegates are professional pols. They will not vote against mikehiggins Feb 2016 #99
The Democratic Party leaders seem determined to drive Sanders voters out of the party Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #102
Too early Lazy Daisy Feb 2016 #108
Clinton and the DNC zentrum Feb 2016 #109
Yep, superdelegates are something brand new this year, specifically imposed to screw Sanders and Hoyt Feb 2016 #110
Please self delete PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #115
Uh, no. Maybe if more people went to the polls we could give Bernie an insurmountable majority. KamaAina Feb 2016 #116
If people feel they have no way to win PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #117
I sincerely hope that no one reading this would "fail to even try". KamaAina Feb 2016 #124
It's a RIGGED System and it will continue to be RIGGED Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #118
Is democratic to allow Independent voters to decide DEMOCRATIC business? Persondem Feb 2016 #190
Bernie more like the Dem Party BEfore THe CLinton's sold it to the Koch Bros Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #191
Yeah, she was a Goldwater girl for all of a few months in high school. If that's the level you Persondem Feb 2016 #192
SHe's still the goldwater girl Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #194
It's what they do best. They have rigged the party hifiguy Feb 2016 #122
Those delegates should be brought in line, instead of it being a backroom Deal , Expose them !!!! orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #127
Yep - all Bernie has going for him... dchill Feb 2016 #128
Super Delegates have been part of the process for YEARS shadowrider Feb 2016 #129
People accept unjust things for years. Slavery, homophobia, wage inequity.Then good people speak up. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #142
Agreed shadowrider Feb 2016 #144
Exactly. nt stevenleser Feb 2016 #146
There's a point to this kind of messaging and too many are falling for it. Chezboo Feb 2016 #132
Excellent article! warrprayer Feb 2016 #154
This kind of action is what makes a political revolution... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #137
To those on this thread who think it's perfectly OK for superdelegates to trump the people Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #139
Done. Current superdelegate process flies in the face of democracy. It is political cronyism. EndElectoral Feb 2016 #141
How many of these conspiracy theory threads are going to be posted? mythology Feb 2016 #148
Done, thanks for the link. williesgirl Feb 2016 #158
Jeez - this has been going on forever. It's not a devious plot by the Clintons. kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2016 #160
They Will Not a Stop A Wave Election. colsohlibgal Feb 2016 #161
how does this matter mgmaggiemg Feb 2016 #163
Don't Tread On We. nt Zorra Feb 2016 #174
Love that! nt bunnies Feb 2016 #175
Hillary may be starting on the 50 yard line but it will not matter any more than it did in 2008. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #176
Same setup was in place in 2008, HRC had many "pledged" super delegates bigbrother05 Feb 2016 #178
"Superdelegates" are UNPLEDGED delegates. MineralMan Feb 2016 #179
Seems that every time you turn around, something is rigged jimmydwight Feb 2016 #183
Don't fall for this scare tactic. rocktivity Feb 2016 #184
she loves looking like Bush Jr doesn't she PatrynXX Feb 2016 #185
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