2016 Postmortem

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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84. This goes a long way in explaining the great divide between...

Wed Feb 10, 2016, 08:52 AM

Feb 2016

young and old women. Older, white women had sexism to overcome, but college was affordable and the American Dream was within their reach. Today, young women of all races have greater opportunities, hypocritically. They are facing a different obstacle: indentured servitude to banksters. It's important to both old and young women that they see a woman president in their lifetime. Older women are running out of time. It's not the #1 priority for younger women, suffocating debt is.

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Was college once free in United States, as Bernie Sanders says? [View all] LiberalArkie Feb 2016 OP

mostly true Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #1

$1 per unit is what I paid when I got out of the military FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #27

Public colleges used to be in California Luminous Animal Feb 2016 #2

Gov. Reagan ended that. PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #6

California's public universities are still free if you are low income AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #10

I received enough pell grants to cover my tuition at State University. PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #11

And that has been allowed to dry up... Look at how much has been taken from education.. MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #71

Yep, and made a lot of other changes as well ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2016 #95

I remember this, I was there Rebkeh Feb 2016 #85

Many state university systems were very low cost or free. Warren Stupidity Feb 2016 #3

My school, a state U, was so inexpensive that I could pay for it and Nay Feb 2016 #17

You should be very proud of yourself. I was proud of you just reading your post. merrily Feb 2016 #80

Thank you, but really anyone with decent grades did college just that Nay Feb 2016 #88

No, not everyone. Some people did not have to worry about taking semesters off to earn money. merrily Feb 2016 #91

Awww, thanks! Nay Feb 2016 #92

That's more like it! Happy to see it. merrily Feb 2016 #93

AGREED, Very Competitivwe to get into but yep... Very inexpensive in NEW YORK State! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #73

No. bravenak Feb 2016 #4

Wrong again, they were in California at least. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #18

Is that the entire US? No. United states means states united. bravenak Feb 2016 #20

Was California in the US at the time? Yes? Then there was tuition free college in the US. Electric Monk Feb 2016 #22

Is California the United States? bravenak Feb 2016 #23

In this graphic, is circle B inside circle A? Yes? So if I put something in circle B, it would Electric Monk Feb 2016 #24

Does that make the the same exact thing? bravenak Feb 2016 #26

Since California isn't 'the United States'..... daleanime Feb 2016 #28

Its only one piece. bravenak Feb 2016 #29

Then we had free college in the US.... daleanime Feb 2016 #32

There were some costs bravenak Feb 2016 #35

Yes, but not the major ripoff it mostly is now. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #37

I get that but free means kostenlos to me. bravenak Feb 2016 #41

Dang! And I thought my kids always had to get the last word in. nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2016 #68

True, but even with SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #69

Bernie's plan only entails free tuition. At most schools you can rent books fairly cheaply. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #58

My school rents books for alot because are not connected to the lower 48 bravenak Feb 2016 #65

He promised free tuition not free everything. But there will still be Pell grants and state grants Live and Learn Feb 2016 #66

Oh, please. "In the US" does not equal "everywhere in the US" except in a merrily Feb 2016 #81

It did exist in some parts of the US (CA being notable) SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #36

I know you do. bravenak Feb 2016 #42

Not with your Can't Do attitude. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #59

History is made either way bravenak Feb 2016 #64

I'm usually a pessimist, SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #70

Maybe bravenak Feb 2016 #75

Aw, I would have liked to hear it, SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #101

Ha! bravenak Feb 2016 #102

Wrong! I paid for my husband's tuition at a state university, it was doable on my salary ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #44

How is that free? You paid money. bravenak Feb 2016 #45

The amount of money was trivial, how much do we spend on care of veterans for ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #48

Trivial to you is alot to poor people. bravenak Feb 2016 #50

We were never rich, I started working full time at the age of 17 and paid my way for night school slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #60

I am very sorry for the pain and exhaustion bravenak Feb 2016 #63

Thank you ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #67

I am so sorry for your loss. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #72

Well, your hasty reply does underscore how successfully the concept was buried. Orsino Feb 2016 #89

There were fees bravenak Feb 2016 #90

Not quite free but close DaveT Feb 2016 #5

Bernie is only talking about tution and it was free. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #19

My tuition at Southwest Texas State in 1984-1989 was.... Avalon Sparks Feb 2016 #57

That's how it was for me Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #98

I paid $5 per graduate credit at Texas A&M in 1983. HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #7

Yep. I was there late 80s in TX, at UT. RiverLover Feb 2016 #21

WHEN TUITION AT CUNY WAS FREE, SORT OF elleng Feb 2016 #8

SUNY and CUNY sure weren't free in the early eighties. bettyellen Feb 2016 #14

Tuition was imposed at CUNY in the late seventies. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #76

I remember it resulted in lots of families that valued education moving west, yep. bettyellen Feb 2016 #96

your link says so Go Vols Feb 2016 #9

In 1920 less than 5% of the 18-24 population was enrolled in university exboyfil Feb 2016 #12

Ohio famously paid for every Ohio resident's state tuition. closeupready Feb 2016 #13

not in every state- NYC wasn't free and I know people who moved west just to get their bettyellen Feb 2016 #15

The University of California was virtually free back in the 60's tularetom Feb 2016 #16

Prop 13 killed education in California. kwassa Feb 2016 #25

Yes in California, I believe.m JDPriestly Feb 2016 #30

You are correct. nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #34

Cheaper, not free. Free for Europeans on scholarships flamingdem Feb 2016 #31

Close enough when I was in college in the 70s. SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #33

Other than in California, and perhaps a couple of other states, SheilaT Feb 2016 #38

Tuition was free for graduate student TAs Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #49

Grad students are a special case, I think. SheilaT Feb 2016 #54

UW Milwaukee 1963. Cost of books. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #39

Mostly true, tuition was something you could pay for with a summer job if you worked hard ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #40

I think that a semester at the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #43

CCNY was free for a while on a merit based system aikoaiko Feb 2016 #46

Bernie's idea of graduating from college debt free is not pie in the sky. FuzzyRabbit Feb 2016 #47

"..people valued education and believed that a well educated society provided benefits for everyone' slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #56

I am from CA and yes it was. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #51

when I went to college, I went on a state scholarship, almost everyone I knew hollysmom Feb 2016 #52

Pretty much HassleCat Feb 2016 #53

It was tuition free in California when I went to college. Cleita Feb 2016 #55

My parents said community college in NYC was free ecstatic Feb 2016 #61

Politfact says "Sanders' statement is accurate but needs clarification. We rate this statement . . . Petrushka Feb 2016 #62

I went to Brooklyn College tuition free in the early 70s. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #74

This is the lie that Bernie is using to get the young people to vote for him liberal N proud Feb 2016 #77

City University of New York used to be free Sanity Claws Feb 2016 #78

A relative went to a state college early in the 1960s. merrily Feb 2016 #79

Private colleges were reasonable also LynnTTT Feb 2016 #82

I have a framed coupon for a free college education at Miami University from the 1800s, iirc. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #83

This goes a long way in explaining the great divide between... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2016 #84

My AA was free. LWolf Feb 2016 #86

Many schools were free or very, very affordable. Vinca Feb 2016 #87

I entered college in 1963, to Rice Universaity, a very good private university. s-cubed Feb 2016 #94

Mostly true. Blue_In_AK Feb 2016 #97

All Community colleges were free in California. Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #99

Free and tuition-free are two different concepts. NobodyHere Feb 2016 #100