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166. Independent voters gave Obama the edge by I'd say 65 to 49% Overall

Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:06 PM

Oct 2012

on CNN. There was a ticker for Colorado independent voters on the screen and Obama went to 100% I'd say about 6-8 times and Romney about 4-5. Romney went below the line about 4 times and Obama never did. Obama got higher marks consistently on healthcare and education, economy maybe a slight edge. Women consistently gave him higher marks than men, especially on education and healthcare. I'm on another forum with about 6K members but only 20 or so posting regularly, predominately republicans and of course, they thought Romney did super! *rolling eyes*

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Debate night chat thread [View all] mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 OP

No need for the President to be aggressive. Lex Oct 2012 #1

true mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #3

Agreed. But it'll be a big win for Pres. Obama if Romney stutters and stammers Lex Oct 2012 #7

hands everyone popcorn and drinks mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #10

I hope someone in the audience glitter bombs Wrongney . . . fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #2

I know its so wrong but I'm already cringing for Romney. Peregrine Took Oct 2012 #4

I just can't think of him as the underdog . . . fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #6

I meant in the sense of being such a terrible debater and candidate. Peregrine Took Oct 2012 #9

Gotcha' . . . fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #11

I'll one up you. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #5

It is indeed 'Amercia' . . . fleur-de-lisa Oct 2012 #8

What if his wire doesn't work and he doesn't know what to say Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #12

Obama stayed cool at the correspondents dinner JoePhilly Oct 2012 #13

i agree mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #14

Good Point. Justice Oct 2012 #20

The Stepford Candidate might overload his circuits if the pressure is too much. DCBob Oct 2012 #15

That would be awesome! DesertRat Oct 2012 #16

Anyone else find that there has been more anticipation for this debate than in 2008? TroyD Oct 2012 #17

My hope for the debate angrychair Oct 2012 #18

That would be something I'd fall out of my chair about genna Oct 2012 #62

I just said a little prayer for our President powergirl Oct 2012 #19

Watching the live stream on ABCNews' youtube channel C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Oct 2012 #21

I'm nervous. kalli007 Oct 2012 #22

that is littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #33

Watching it on MSNBC Tcbys Oct 2012 #23

Can't help feeling nervous, but know the prez will be great. polichick Oct 2012 #24

Ugh helpisontheway Oct 2012 #25

i might do the same mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #28

Bill Maher TroyD Oct 2012 #26

thanks for the link mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #29

Hi, Jim! C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Oct 2012 #27

She was "Michelle Obama" before she married you? C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Oct 2012 #30

Cant wait for these Zingers he prepared. The only substance he got are those zingers. Tcbys Oct 2012 #31

maybe he wrote the zingers on the paper he put on the podium Justice Oct 2012 #32

probably a picture of herbert hoover. mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #35

I bet romeny is writeing the new zinger. Tcbys Oct 2012 #34

How is it going so far? Who won the first two questions? helpisontheway Oct 2012 #36

everything is fine mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #38

Thanks..nt helpisontheway Oct 2012 #48

Are you from Columbus OH by any chance? BrutalEntropy Oct 2012 #116

Jim Lehrer has Betty Davis eyes tonite LuckyStrykes Oct 2012 #37

Cold dead eyes is more like it. beac Oct 2012 #42

I can't remember the last time i was so nervous about a presidential debate.... desertduck Oct 2012 #39

Weird - Romney's "plan" is a list of "goals." Beartracks Oct 2012 #40

his plan is a joke mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #43

Romney littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #41

Oh HELL nO littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #44

A set of Goals are meaning less unless you have an ACTUAL PLAN to achieve those goals. Tcbys Oct 2012 #45

A-RITH-ME-TIC!!!! Beartracks Oct 2012 #46

YESSS!!! He said it!!! :D n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #47

Obama had the first zinger! Evergreen Emerald Oct 2012 #49

i loved it. mgcgulfcoast Oct 2012 #53

. littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #50

ROFL Obama had the first Zinger.. Tcbys Oct 2012 #51

Middle income does not equate to middle class. Willard's buzz words EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #52

Dang...he is getting pissed Evergreen Emerald Oct 2012 #54

OMG Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #55

Grrrr...gag...spit...Mittens, lower "taxes" SoapBox Oct 2012 #56

Romney looking like the littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #57

Wait - Is this 2nd question about DEBT or DEFICIT?? n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #58

Is it just me.. Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #59

No, you are right. He got right up there and with a straight face said he won't cut taxes on rich. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #61

Romney is pummeling Obama on taxes. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #64

I disagree... Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #68

Did Romney just say he wants to stop funding Big Bird? n/t lolamio Oct 2012 #60

heating up littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #67

Yup. Romney stepped in it. avaistheone1 Oct 2012 #87

He says that all the time; it's part of his stump speech. CBHagman Oct 2012 #159

Nitt is talking too fast and not making sense ailsagirl Oct 2012 #63

It almost goes without saying when he puts the pious look on genna Oct 2012 #106

I hate that look ailsagirl Oct 2012 #123

It's Math, silly. n/t Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #65

Nitt sounding almost hysterical ailsagirl Oct 2012 #66

He gets the "angry eyes" almost every time he speaks. n/t beac Oct 2012 #69

Just wait.. Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #72

Obama should tear Romney to shreds he should be mean! Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #70

It's not his style-- he's calmly sticking to facts ailsagirl Oct 2012 #76

I would Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #82

No.. Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #84

Now he is blame gaming littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #71

IT'S A MORAL ISSUE??? Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #73

It is a zinger FAIL! if I've ever heard one genna Oct 2012 #109

Sheesh...Mittens...shut up SoapBox Oct 2012 #74

he's so hyped up ailsagirl Oct 2012 #81

Outstanding SS and Medicare comments from Obama! EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #75

Romney just lost everyone under 60. EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #78

Finally a topic that Obama has a strength in. Obama is more stronger in issues like this. Tcbys Oct 2012 #77

"oh , I just thought about one" littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #79

Minus 1000 points for Obama avaistheone1 Oct 2012 #80

Think he is saying SS and entitlements Marthe48 Oct 2012 #91

Here is the transcript. avaistheone1 Oct 2012 #167

Did nitwit just pick his nose??? N/T angrychair Oct 2012 #83

Missed that ailsagirl Oct 2012 #86

Eh? My feed just froze while discussing vouchers... n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #85

Whew, it's back. But I guess it's not really "live" now! n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #88

Nitt is talking faster and faster-- I think he's losing it ailsagirl Oct 2012 #89

Obama wins the Medicare debate LuckyStrykes Oct 2012 #90

Yes he did Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #93

Manic vs. rational EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #99

Exactly ailsagirl Oct 2012 #101

I started thinking bi polar as soon as Ann said she was worried about his mental health genna Oct 2012 #139

I'm watching on CNN animalcrackers Oct 2012 #92

Which line? Beartracks Oct 2012 #94

the line that shows a group of independent Colorado voters feelings animalcrackers Oct 2012 #100

So how did it go (with the lines)? Beartracks Oct 2012 #155

This message was self-deleted by its author Beartracks Oct 2012 #102

Can we please get someone sharp like Bill Moyers, and retire Lehrer? eom Norrin Radd Oct 2012 #95

Lehrer is fawning over romeny Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #98

Poorly moderated imo Marthe48 Oct 2012 #119

No kidding. caseymoz Oct 2012 #126

Romney eye showed fear this last turn. nt. caseymoz Oct 2012 #143

And Romney keeps bulling the moderator animalcrackers Oct 2012 #96

OMG...Mittens just keeps talking over the President and old Jim is letting him get away with it... SoapBox Oct 2012 #97

They are giving Romney the stage Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #103

Shit, he is just running all over the President SoapBox Oct 2012 #105

he's running all over Lehrer, too ailsagirl Oct 2012 #107

Mr. Obama, please emphasize again that all that bailout $ was paid back! n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #104

Someone on Twitter who pretends to be Big Bird Norrin Radd Oct 2012 #108

Really funny twitter posts from Big Bird. Thanks! NCarolinawoman Oct 2012 #153

Finally Obama mentioned Romenycare. Tcbys Oct 2012 #110

I had 5 seconds theKed Oct 2012 #111

Mitt: Romneycare was bipartisan because... Beartracks Oct 2012 #112

The Prez is hip to Lerz tricks littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #113

Romney just said "this is why the people don't want littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #117

Oh pleaase... animalcrackers Oct 2012 #114

Goodness angrychair Oct 2012 #115

Nitt is acting bossy and animated but he's not saying anything coherent ailsagirl Oct 2012 #118

It does SOUND coherent and truth-y. Just don't run the numbers. n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #124

Mitt did consulting, but isn't familiar with "best practices"? n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #120

ARGHHHH...it's NOT a government take over of healthcare!!!! SoapBox Oct 2012 #121

Lips start to say littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #122

Is it just my imagination, or is Mitt being given a lot more "passes" than Obama??? mak3cats Oct 2012 #125

Not your imagination Marthe48 Oct 2012 #129

Seems so. N/T Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #130

Whatever happened to "impartial moderator"? Scully Oct 2012 #144

Are we going to hear any reference to 47%? Bigleaf Oct 2012 #127

Jim Leher lost the debate. EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #128

I SO agree!!!!!!! SoapBox Oct 2012 #133

Zinger! fail moobu2 Oct 2012 #131

So rehearsed! DesertRat Oct 2012 #134

Is it me...or is Mittens not "cutting" anything? SoapBox Oct 2012 #132

This was the Rmoney debate. earthside Oct 2012 #135

Nytimes fact checkers are bleeding romney dry... fiorello Oct 2012 #136

Is there a fricken moderator in this debate!!! madmax Oct 2012 #137

Here we go.. Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #138

I just said the same thing. n/t madmax Oct 2012 #140

I,I,I, I, had, I had, I will, can not stay on topic... littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #141

Tedious and somewhat dull. littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #145

Made me feel as if I were jumping out of my skin. ailsagirl Oct 2012 #168

Well, I'm disappointed. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #146

Kinda matches my impression, too. n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #161

Big Bird for President on Facebook littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #163

There goes Mittens again about the $716 billion cuts to Medicare... SoapBox Oct 2012 #142

12 million job myth animalcrackers Oct 2012 #147

By speaking over Lehrer, Romney isn't looking good. caseymoz Oct 2012 #148

Unfortunately... Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #149

Seems that Romney won't stop when Lehrer says stop. caseymoz Oct 2012 #151

Maybe he needed to hit it as often as Romney brought it up. Beartracks Oct 2012 #150

Not just us! Ed Schultz is on FIRE over the Prez not getting in there and fighting... SoapBox Oct 2012 #152

Chris Matthews goblue316 Oct 2012 #158

He didn't. It's a darn shame. Atypical Liberal Oct 2012 #162

Are Mass education systems Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #154

I think MD Schools are Number One lib87 Oct 2012 #164

As Rachel and Chris Matthews are just sick over this.... SoapBox Oct 2012 #156

link or is this twitter? animalcrackers Oct 2012 #160

A couple of interesting tweets ailsagirl Oct 2012 #157

This was not what I expected.. Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #165

Independent voters gave Obama the edge by I'd say 65 to 49% Overall courseofhistory Oct 2012 #166