2016 Postmortem

Jane Austin

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197. Please don't kick them off DU, bu

Reply to TexasTowelie (Original post)

Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:00 PM

Feb 2016

my dogs can't stand Secy. Clinton. They get very agitated and jockey for my attention when she is talking.

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Official Debate Thread 2 [View all] TexasTowelie Feb 2016 OP

Wow! This is a debate! DanTex Feb 2016 #1

The one-on-one is so much better firebrand80 Feb 2016 #10

Yes. So much more ground. DanTex Feb 2016 #15

What does being a woman have to do with not being establishment? Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #2

its the victim/woman thing...again nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #6

That was my question EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #7

Apparently it has to do with supporting Hillary Clinton... brooklynite Feb 2016 #8

So being a woman is evidence someone is not an establishment politician. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #64

As a woman I feel rather embarrassed when other women do that sort of thing. tblue37 Feb 2016 #61

Thank you Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #68

+1000 kath Feb 2016 #200

She's throwing everything right now. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #3

This is an opponent in her party's primary, imagine her arguing with Putin HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #130

Are you kidding? vdogg Feb 2016 #189

Except for that proxy war thing we kicked up in the Ukraine. HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #191

We kicked that up? vdogg Feb 2016 #203

You really need to read about the uprising and the people behind it. HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #208

Women can't be part of the establishment? TCJ70 Feb 2016 #4

Playing the dreary gender card. Blech. nt valerief Feb 2016 #5

Sanders beautifully pivoted the establishment to SuperPACs. joshcryer Feb 2016 #9

Yes he did. Loud applause and Hillary looking tense. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #12

Clinton lying about her her campaign has remained "positive" Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #11

Say it to my face!!! firebrand80 Feb 2016 #13

if you got something to say, say it restorefreedom Feb 2016 #14

Yeah, but you're inconsequential. BERNIE needs to man up. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #178

i completely agree. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #188

"Represented my constitutents" Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #16

Are they going to discuss their PLANS and PROPOSALS, elleng Feb 2016 #17

Hillary was just booed LittleBlue Feb 2016 #18

!!! cui bono Feb 2016 #50

So was Bernie. grossproffit Feb 2016 #170

And now the gloves come off... brooklynite Feb 2016 #19

Bernie is so owning this debate right now. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #27

Hillary you're not the establishment? JRLeft Feb 2016 #20

Shut the f#ck up Hillary - jeezus AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #21

Amen. Shut the fuck up. Hillary. azmom Feb 2016 #31

Big Boos for Clinton! TCJ70 Feb 2016 #22

Howard Dean will never get elected in Vermont again Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #23

Bernie's going to have a freaking stroke nt firebrand80 Feb 2016 #24

he just destroyed her. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #25

Bernie's dissing lobbyists and how they've bought Congress! nt valerief Feb 2016 #26

Strictly from a political standpoint I don't understand by Sanders pivoted from Clinton to Wall St brooklynite Feb 2016 #28

Of course you don't. You're a part of the problem. Not thinking things through. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #37

lol snagglepuss Feb 2016 #190

heh. kath Feb 2016 #218

Well...he just said it to her face... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #29

and heeeeere comes the victim card restorefreedom Feb 2016 #30

Deritatives card now. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #32

a moment of comic relief restorefreedom Feb 2016 #33

Hillary got berned! LOL n/t ram2008 Feb 2016 #34

BINGO! Sanders v. Greenspan! I think Mr. Andrea Mitchell is still applying salve bullwinkle428 Feb 2016 #35

Bernie has the ability to combat the lies. He's holding it together. Gregorian Feb 2016 #36

Truth and integrity are damn good defenses n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #160

Heads and shoulders .... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #167

I think that H2O Man Feb 2016 #38

agreed dana_b Feb 2016 #41

Why do I get the feeling that the "extra" debates are about to evaporate? n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #222

I am better I am better than you I am better hear me I am better!~~~~ bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #39

That was intense. I had to get up and walk around nt. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #40

Me too! redwitch Feb 2016 #42

This is where the passion gets to come out... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #46

Lucky you, I'm trying to make dinner! Gregorian Feb 2016 #56

Okay, I'm going to have to findn a live stream if it's not too late... cui bono Feb 2016 #59

Best one on either side I've seen. Both candidates are bringing it. We'll see how it shakes out. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #62

This just in, Hillary claims victory in debate!! CNN confirms it! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #43

LMFAO Trajan Feb 2016 #74

There was a commercial break. I had to kill some time. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #90

I have to say, this the best debate, on eitherr side, that we've see so far! napi21 Feb 2016 #44

I agree. And the questions are better dana_b Feb 2016 #51

Hillary lied that Sanders wants to destroy the ACA eom Arazi Feb 2016 #141

No lies from HRC? somehow I really, really doubt that. kath Feb 2016 #230

twitter is on it.... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #45

Good answer n/t dana_b Feb 2016 #47

Chuck Todd asks a really good question, why isn't Sanders participating in public financing uponit7771 Feb 2016 #48

Isn't his campaign, by definition... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #53

yes, it is 100% publicly financed - his question fell flat tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #69

Live Media Reaction: Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #49

todd doesn't go after hillary on wall st but restorefreedom Feb 2016 #52

chuck waxed his eyebrows. JudyM Feb 2016 #54

So Sanders you're no better than CLINTON!! She's saying the same thing about getting things uponit7771 Feb 2016 #55

Live stream keeps kicking me off ArcticFox Feb 2016 #57

I am having good luck with the stream at MSNBC.COM GoneFishin Feb 2016 #66

as am i. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #70

temporarily this is working on YouTube tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #81

you can also search youtube for debate and select 'LIVE' for recent streams tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #93

this is working for me Matariki Feb 2016 #157

I called shenanigans!!! Cut it out! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #58

someone agrees with you restorefreedom Feb 2016 #73

I'm not following it on Twitter, thanks! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #83

yw :) twitter is keeping me sane right now...,nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #91

Shenanigans with Mortgages. Talk about out of touch! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #60

She predicted the crash to Wall Street? OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #62

Bernie...Bring up her video blaming homeowners... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #65

You mean this video? OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #165

Yes sir! n/t TCJ70 Feb 2016 #168

Did the camping assoc. pay her 600k? nt Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #67

She charged colleges more than Goldman Sachs. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #76

Her son in law works for a hedgefund ffs ViseGrip Feb 2016 #71

I'm having trouble streaming this at http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-live ; snot Feb 2016 #72

MSNBC.COM GoneFishin Feb 2016 #82

here ViseGrip Feb 2016 #85

young turks restorefreedom Feb 2016 #86

gentleman dana_b Feb 2016 #75

Yup. redwitch Feb 2016 #87

I wish he would just ask her why she would agree to do a speech for a company like Goldman Sachs EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #77

"These are guys who know how to make smart investments" Hillary on her own Wall Street support. pa28 Feb 2016 #78

Hillary Depaysement Feb 2016 #79

bernie keeps getting the biggest applause lines. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #80

IF they pose a systemic risk?? dana_b Feb 2016 #84

Hillary: Stop picking on Wall Street! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #88

Defending Wall Street isn't going to help her! Punkingal Feb 2016 #112

Hillary: Trust me, we won't do it again. Gregorian Feb 2016 #89

Hillary now says Glas Steagal is not enough....she's too much. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #92

She's got their number. redwitch Feb 2016 #97

Yeah... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #106

on speed dial. Gregorian Feb 2016 #108

here ya go.... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #111

It's the word "puke" nested between colons. winter is coming Feb 2016 #238

The Wall Street guys, the Hedge Fund guys, the Shadow banking guys are all against me! Avalux Feb 2016 #99

She's doing well. metroins Feb 2016 #102

If she was a stand up comedian, sure. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #121

I don't think so at all. metroins Feb 2016 #174

IF the cirumstances warrant?? dana_b Feb 2016 #94

pot v wall st restorefreedom Feb 2016 #95

Is Hillary going to back up all of these plans she just discovered? Gregorian Feb 2016 #96

Wall street trying to stop her so much they gave her campaign $15 million Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #98

yep! But he won't say it out loud dana_b Feb 2016 #107

I love Obama.....but just because he passed something doesn't mean its the... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #100

Hillary should run for comedian LittleBlue Feb 2016 #101

Obama did not "push through" Dodd-Frank OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #103

All legislation ?!?!?! You guys lose credibility with this kind of thinking uponit7771 Feb 2016 #153

I don't know who "you guys" are OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #182

"These hedge fund guys" senz Feb 2016 #104

I notice she floats the "hedge fund" phrase to him fairly routinely... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #126

Yep, and then she can play poor hurt victim. senz Feb 2016 #147

I've got these guys number? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #105

Yeah Wall St. is really trying to stop her....does she just assume people are going to believe her.. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #109

Yep. What a load of crap. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #115

Obama took Wall Street money and didn't prosecute them, NO ONE WENT TO JAIL! ViseGrip Feb 2016 #110

they got their money's worth from Obama and the Democrats in power tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #123

she comes across as 100% IN-authentic about Wall Street - she better hope the subject changes tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #113

RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS!!! MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #114

She won't release them.... Punkingal Feb 2016 #135

Wait.... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #159

todd..will you release wall st speeches? restorefreedom Feb 2016 #116

"I'll look into it!" bullwinkle428 Feb 2016 #117

and I helped kill Bin Laden! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #122

transcripts from all your paid speeches questionseverything Feb 2016 #118

release the speeches and let the facts speak for themselves dana_b Feb 2016 #119

She always tries to take credit for bin Laden. senz Feb 2016 #120

Won't release the transcripts... mia Feb 2016 #124

She said she didn't know... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #134

Of course she won't. It would end her and you know it. morningfog Feb 2016 #184

"RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS!!!" tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #139

Here ya go: Mike__M Feb 2016 #125

transcripts, YES Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #127

OOPS. Why not just say yes to releasing the transcripts of your speaches? napi21 Feb 2016 #128

oh fuck oh fuck "will you release the transcripts" Heddi Feb 2016 #129

That dodge was worthy of Sarah Palin CanonRay Feb 2016 #145

do you want maple syrup on your waffling?? eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #148

After all this, in plain sight for the whole world to see, there are still those who will say... Binkie The Clown Feb 2016 #131

Secretary Clinton... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #132

Implying that Bernie does not want to go after OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #133

i want the transcript of her Monsanto speech....oh yes I do. I alreayd know of a line in there.... ViseGrip Feb 2016 #136

"The business model of Wall St is fraud." valerief Feb 2016 #137

Wow. Chuck Todd wants the Goldman transcripts. pa28 Feb 2016 #138

So....is she going to release the transcripts? Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #140

Fuck this SheenaR Feb 2016 #142

"look at my record" dana_b Feb 2016 #154

They would just be fake anyway. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #173

too many interruptions, where is the debate? Alameda Feb 2016 #143

here is where Bernie scares everyone with a 401K! Gutsy! bettyellen Feb 2016 #144

fraud, weak regulations, bail them out - break them out!!! dana_b Feb 2016 #146

up! not out- oops! dana_b Feb 2016 #149

sanders..the business model of wall street is fraud restorefreedom Feb 2016 #150

SNL with Larry David on Saturday will be fun this week! nt valerief Feb 2016 #151

The business model of Wall Street is FRAUD... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #152

Bernie please keep flying commercial. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #163

It's safer for someone who continue to piss off them who own this country, isn't it? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #176

Yup bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #206

He should mention Walmart Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #155

I think he already mentioned Wallyworld Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #183

I know how to handle them. azmom Feb 2016 #156

No Hillary, many have not bounced back yet...after losing their homes. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #158

many are still struggling - some don't have jobs yet dana_b Feb 2016 #171

The arena with them....or paid by them.....you know, whatever. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #161

I'll just tell them to 'cut it out'. eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #164

Someone help me....didn't she blame the victims of the money nc4bo Feb 2016 #162

yes Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #169

Thanks Motown!nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #210

End the loophole - rebuild intrastructure - create jobs - yes! dana_b Feb 2016 #166

is it just me.... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #172

I think he is just killing it, but I am bias. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #177

me too, but it seems like it is happening nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #194

I've noticed that too. The audience has gone nuts for him. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #187

Is Hillary trying to "claim" "Bernieship"? Out "Bernie" Bernie. Interesting strategy? newthinking Feb 2016 #175

yes, it's the whole progressive debate dana_b Feb 2016 #180

I guess this is a day when she is a Progressive. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #181

Yes and it's disgusting. But I think it will fool some people. What better way to avoid defending an GoneFishin Feb 2016 #186

Doesn't seem to be, according to the audience... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #204

I want Bernie to stop letting her go on and on about how bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #179

She is starting to sound like Trump. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #185

That's one of the few talking points her campaign thought they would need. It has failed, but... arcane1 Feb 2016 #215

Aren't there any Hill supporters here? senz Feb 2016 #192

They may be having a rough time tonight... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #196

Or watching at the cave? senz Feb 2016 #207

that vote and war helped create groups like Isis dana_b Feb 2016 #193

President Sanders.. Keep Saying It Chuckie!!!! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #195

Please don't kick them off DU, bu Jane Austin Feb 2016 #197

Are they hunting dogs? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #211

Yes they are. Jane Austin Feb 2016 #252

My dearly departed cats got used to my yelling at dubya. senz Feb 2016 #270

And, when we become kitten parents again this fall... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #274

Totally understand. senz Feb 2016 #276

Ms. Hillary, people are still dying over that vote ViseGrip Feb 2016 #198

Let's draft Muslims! Awesome. bettyellen Feb 2016 #199

Holy crud he just completely not answered the afghanistan question. ny ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #201

hope they'll get back to it. he skirted the faith question, then came back with a bettyellen Feb 2016 #209

It was a crazy hypothetical. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #213

I hate it when she laughs at him. senz Feb 2016 #202

He has a very hard time giving Obama credit. bettyellen Feb 2016 #205

Lol vdogg Feb 2016 #214

He's not very self-conscious. senz Feb 2016 #220

Bernie Sanders and President Obama like each other. senz Feb 2016 #280

I want to like her, I really do hibbing Feb 2016 #212

I'd rather have a beer with him, but am voting for the nominee. bettyellen Feb 2016 #216

Agreed, more of a minion. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #219

Ha ha ,,,the media didn't cover his foreign policy speech! ViseGrip Feb 2016 #217

because somehow it was also about economic equality too! he needs to maybe stop adding that bettyellen Feb 2016 #223

LOL, loved Bernie bugging his eyes out and nodding like a turtle. bettyellen Feb 2016 #221

Have you ever seen a turtle? senz Feb 2016 #255

Many! Have you? bettyellen Feb 2016 #257

Bugged out eyes? Nodding? senz Feb 2016 #265

Yep, my neighbor has a dozen in his yard. Bernie channeled one for a moment there.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #269

Yes, JUDGMENT. senz Feb 2016 #224

They just let her talk non-stop and interrupt him. Punkingal Feb 2016 #225

It's not going to make a difference. Avalux Feb 2016 #231

It's pissing my hubby off. LOL Punkingal Feb 2016 #237

She pulled the ready on day one card! bettyellen Feb 2016 #226

Bernie's right. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #227

Boy does she want to take credit for getting bin Laden. senz Feb 2016 #228

the organized bin ladin raid...."I was at the table" ViseGrip Feb 2016 #229

What Sanders knows about foreign policy can be held in a thimble. Beacool Feb 2016 #232

He's been in the U.S. legislative branch for 30 years. senz Feb 2016 #240

Ohhh, rank the threat. He wants to say Isis. But now says N Korea. bettyellen Feb 2016 #245

I hate how Hillary wants credit for everything the Obama Administration has done. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #233

I hate that he tries to hang everything Bill did on Hillary! bettyellen Feb 2016 #239

Relevant. Spouses are usually the candidates top policies advisors. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #250

Are they? She worked on health care pretty much. Worked super hard on it. bettyellen Feb 2016 #253

Glad he corrected her. Hope he continues. senz Feb 2016 #234

He sounds like he has done a much deeper dive into international issues. bettyellen Feb 2016 #235

Hawk attacks Dove and loses, film at 11:00 Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #236

More like dove knows squat about foreign policy. Beacool Feb 2016 #243

He won that portion of the debate. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #247

The whole No Korea then Russia thing was stilted and weird. bettyellen Feb 2016 #251

Bwahahahahahahahaha! Punkingal Feb 2016 #249

Clinton sounds like the shrub administration when they were fear mongering to get into Iraq. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #241

As Commander In Chief Sen. Sanders.... Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #242

Hillary makes me feel that I'll live in perpetual war. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #244

Very weird how they are forcing him to be concerned about foreign threats. Awkward! bettyellen Feb 2016 #248

This message was self-deleted by its author GoneFishin Feb 2016 #246

Hillary is Killing It vdogg Feb 2016 #254

I think she sounds arrogant and know-it-all. Punkingal Feb 2016 #263

Either of our candidates CanonRay Feb 2016 #256

HELL YES! NO CLOWN CAR OVER HERE!!! bettyellen Feb 2016 #261

She just recited the P.N.A.C, though now history. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #258

Yes. I a well aware of their manifesto, and what she said gave me a chill. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #262

She's against privatizing the VA... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #259

Hillary did not answer the question about releasing her speech transcripts.the INdemo Feb 2016 #260

NEW DEBATE THREAD : bettyellen Feb 2016 #264

Bernie you are the very best for this country, and our veterans. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #266

Im finding its much easier to just listen to this debate because I don't want to see her INdemo Feb 2016 #267

Bernie is right on having better 'judgment', over experience. People still dying over bad judgment. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #268

Well, Hill seems okay with Iowa being a tie. senz Feb 2016 #271

OMG! People's votes don't count? Caucus not! She fluffed it off! Disaster....awful ViseGrip Feb 2016 #272

Good General Election strategy on Bernie's part. senz Feb 2016 #273

Amazing how closely her talking points match those of her DU fans. senz Feb 2016 #275

Bernie has to tell her that he is the best candidate for Presidency. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #277

He is a fine man. senz Feb 2016 #278

Hillary Clinton should never use the word "believe" INdemo Feb 2016 #279

Hillary wouldn't use Flint for political purposes, would she? senz Feb 2016 #281

So glad he brought up the inherent racism in the Flint situation. senz Feb 2016 #282

Bernie Sanders just won the Trade Agreement argument hands down He hit it out of the park INdemo Feb 2016 #283