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2016 Postmortem

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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:08 PM Feb 2016

According To The NYT... The Clinton's Were Not Pleased With Last Night's Results [View all]

Little Separates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton in Tight Race in Iowa
By PATRICK HEALY - NYT
FEB. 2, 2016


Blake Cooper Griffin, center, a volunteer from Los Angeles, watched the results come in at Hillary Clinton’s rally in Des Moines. Credit Doug Mills/The New York Times

DES MOINES — Hillary Clinton and Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont were locked in an intensely tight race in the Iowa caucuses on Tuesday as Mrs. Clinton’s strong support among women and older voters was matched by the passionate liberal foot soldiers whom Mr. Sanders has been calling to political revolution.

The close results were deeply unnerving to Mrs. Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, as well as her advisers, some of whom had expressed growing confidence in recent days that they had recaptured political momentum after weeks when Mr. Sanders was drawing huge crowds and rising in the polls. The Clintons had appeared optimistic at rallies over the weekend, thanking Iowans for their support as much as urging them to turn out to vote.

The close vote means that Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders are likely to split Iowa’s share of delegates to the Democratic convention, and Mr. Sanders will be able to argue that the Iowa result was a virtual tie.

The Clinton team was counting on its huge, well-trained army of volunteers, covering all of Iowa’s 1,681 voting precincts, to counter the enormous enthusiasm of voters who jammed into events to hear Mr. Sanders. But his well-financed Iowa organization was able to convert the energy of his crowds into voters on Monday night, as he drew huge numbers of first-time caucusgoers, young people and liberals who responded to his rallying cry against the nation’s “rigged economy.”

The virtual tie between the two candidates instantly raised the stakes for their next face-off, the primary next Tuesday in New Hampshire. Mr. Sanders holds a solid lead in polls there and has the advantage of being from Vermont; candidates from neighboring states have won the state’s primary in recent decades, and Mr. Sanders is admired in the state.

Clinton advisers said late Monday night that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton were discussing bringing on additional staff members to strengthen her campaign operation now that a pitched battle may lie ahead against Mr. Sanders. The advisers said they did not know if a significant staff shakeup was at hand, but they said that the Clintons were disappointed with Monday night’s result and wanted to ensure that her organization, political messaging and communications strategy were in better shape for the contests to come.

At her caucus night party here, Mrs. Clinton sought to put the best face on a tight result that had nearly half of Democrats voting against her.


Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/02/us/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-democratic-iowa-caucus.html











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i am very Pleased With Last Night's Results. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #1
Me too. My candidate has momentum essentially catching the front runner as they are going into NH. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #21
I'll take it. I'd rather win than lose redstateblues Feb 2016 #2
Lol. It was much more a tie. And Bernie took the momentum cali Feb 2016 #5
Cali, I thought honesty was a hallmark of the Bernie campaign. Nitram Feb 2016 #27
Oh, do Clinton supporters value honesty? senz Feb 2016 #67
They value it at least as much as their candidate does. hifiguy Feb 2016 #73
Well, that explains a lot. senz Feb 2016 #82
You teed that one up so perfectly hifiguy Feb 2016 #84
Hole in one, hifiguy. senz Feb 2016 #87
With thta attitude, Bernie is doomed to failure. Nitram Feb 2016 #99
that is not decided yet NJCher Feb 2016 #104
Hillary "won". there fixed it for ya yodermon Feb 2016 #12
A Perogie Feb 2016 #58
In what universe is losing the popular vote a "win"? basselope Feb 2016 #91
It amounts to a "win" if you're George Bush Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #95
In a primary where delegates are awarded to the winners. Nitram Feb 2016 #105
How much did each vote cost her? basselope Feb 2016 #106
Is that the best you've got? Nitram Feb 2016 #107
The point is, it isn't a victory. basselope Feb 2016 #108
Nobody said it was victory. We merely pointed out that Cinton won the first primary. Nitram Feb 2016 #109
If it isn't a victory, it isn't a win. basselope Feb 2016 #110
Finally some honesty jham123 Feb 2016 #3
Yep. Wonder what Tom Harkin has to say. n/t bvf Feb 2016 #10
Exactemente. closeupready Feb 2016 #18
jham, poor losers aren't very becoming in any case. Nitram Feb 2016 #28
Oh please, put the straw people back in the barn where they belong. Raster Feb 2016 #51
Sounds like sour grapes to me, Raster. Nitram Feb 2016 #53
LBJ had the decency to not seek another term hifiguy Feb 2016 #74
HighGuy, is that all you know about the '68 race? Nitram Feb 2016 #100
"The Broncos tazkcmo Feb 2016 #101
I'm fine with Chefs jham123 Feb 2016 #112
The Clintons were not pleased....YaThink? Punkingal Feb 2016 #4
The Clintons are "just about unhinged"? Nitram Feb 2016 #29
I saw her last night....did you? Punkingal Feb 2016 #37
Unhinged? Really? nt Nitram Feb 2016 #39
Yeah, really! Punkingal Feb 2016 #42
Clintons are trying to spin a humbling tie as a win; any "win" is due to a coin toss, at best: amborin Feb 2016 #6
I think they should be pleased. DCBob Feb 2016 #7
You think the Clintons should be pleased? tex-wyo-dem Feb 2016 #14
Yes... and I believe she actually won.. not tied. DCBob Feb 2016 #15
Iowa is winner take all? I mean a prohibitive favorite isn't so prohibitive with a one point lead Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #23
22 vs 21 delegates... what happened to the 44th delegate? (n/t) thesquanderer Feb 2016 #25
ROTFLMAO - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #47
"tailor made for Bernie... mostly white, low income"... ljm2002 Feb 2016 #52
Hell's bells, they can't keep their story straight for a day. hifiguy Feb 2016 #75
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #102
Another sourceless whine-fest. randome Feb 2016 #8
The Clinton team seemed embarrassed. DirkGently Feb 2016 #9
I keep thinking she slapped those stickers over that kid's face Ken Burch Feb 2016 #11
Insert hearty chuckle smilie here. closeupready Feb 2016 #19
I think Sticker Kid is the only one having DirkGently Feb 2016 #35
Coffee exits mouth and nostrils and strikes monitor at the speed of hystical laughter - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #49
Now that was funny! ljm2002 Feb 2016 #54
Sorry, that's just mean. blue neen Feb 2016 #61
Snort Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2016 #64
She was not amused. And what does that look on Bill's face convey? SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #30
He's calculating the future value of his speaking fees. snort Feb 2016 #46
The Royal Family: We Are Not Amused! Divernan Feb 2016 #48
Ain't THAT the truth? hifiguy Feb 2016 #76
I've see happier faces hifiguy Feb 2016 #44
Duuuzy!!!!! LongTomH Feb 2016 #50
ROFLMAO !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #88
Hill and Bill are unhappy in that pic madokie Feb 2016 #62
Happy expressions/faces are innate, not learned. closeupready Feb 2016 #78
Whoa. Very interesting! n/t DirkGently Feb 2016 #81
She should be unhappy. A 5 point win would have put the Sanders candidacy in serious jeopardy corkhead Feb 2016 #13
The coin toss thing is becoming an "insta-myth" Bongo Prophet Feb 2016 #69
That was obvious from the look on Big Dogs face during Hillary''s "victory speech". Autumn Feb 2016 #16
This campaign needs more planned spontaneity! Prism Feb 2016 #17
theres a snowball in hells chance she'll with the nomination madokie Feb 2016 #63
Nomination or general? cui bono Feb 2016 #90
If she was to win the nomination madokie Feb 2016 #93
I'm with you. cui bono Feb 2016 #94
I will be totally in shock madokie Feb 2016 #96
You are reading my mind. cui bono Feb 2016 #97
There just flat assed aren't anyone else out there besides Bernie madokie Feb 2016 #98
"Mr. and Mrs. Clinton were discussing bringing on additional staff members..." KansDem Feb 2016 #20
Or Walmart, they are closing lots of stores so all those unemployed people Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #24
More than 50% voted against her. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #22
She already carbon copied Bernie's platform in her speech last night Fearless Feb 2016 #26
Kick for their displeasure. nt silvershadow Feb 2016 #31
I think the Clintons were a bit shocked because their internal polling told them Jarqui Feb 2016 #32
Ouch. That looks like some very unhappy people. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #33
"covering all of Iowa’s 1,681 voting precincts" (nope not in Pacific Junction) Omaha Steve Feb 2016 #34
That's why she said, "I breathed a big sigh of relief". This 'wake-up' will move them both closer. Sunlei Feb 2016 #36
I believe this is an astute observation, but I just don't think HRC... DaGimpster Feb 2016 #66
Ah, those "Progressive" dreams of a brand new war Lorien Feb 2016 #38
Hillary can withdraw and spare them both multiple repeats of last night ErisDiscordia Feb 2016 #40
Good firebrand80 Feb 2016 #41
Awwww. hifiguy Feb 2016 #43
I think that this comment is an overstatement. Beacool Feb 2016 #45
Hillary was the first woman to ever win the Iowa Caucuses. stopbush Feb 2016 #55
Awww...I don't feel their pain. CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #56
Tsk. Tsk. Dreadful. Sad. Tragic. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #57
They could have--should have--knocked Bernie out with their caucus experience, their ground TwilightGardener Feb 2016 #59
She's a lousy candidate hifiguy Feb 2016 #85
They shouldn't be pleased, hell a couple months ago the polls showed her light years ahead of Bernie B Calm Feb 2016 #60
As they shouldn't be. elleng Feb 2016 #65
Politician prefers larger margin of victory - film at 11 anigbrowl Feb 2016 #68
Invasion of the party snatchers dubyadiprecession Feb 2016 #71
She could always learn to connect with people better BeyondGeography Feb 2016 #70
better swerve to the right Doctor_J Feb 2016 #72
For the Clinton's and donors randr Feb 2016 #77
Yep = loud and clear 840high Feb 2016 #79
+ 1000 senz Feb 2016 #83
Thread winner! hifiguy Feb 2016 #86
I really needed the Times to tell me that. JackRiddler Feb 2016 #80
Thanks for that, Willy! Pastiche423 Feb 2016 #89
Anytime Pastiche423... Anytime... WillyT Feb 2016 #92
According to Dems to Win on her couch.... Dems to Win Feb 2016 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #111
She still fared better than Obama in 08 Blue_Adept Feb 2016 #113
Not a blurb.. speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #114
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