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Response to davidpdx (Reply #30)
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 01:13 AM
graham4anything (11,464 posts)
47. first off, the SOS is NOT allowed by law to run for office while in the job of SOS
second off, no, there are no other great candidates that could easily win.
as for ex-presidents or other superstar politicians...
Bill Clinton did nothing to help Al Gore in 2000.
And Ted Kennedy did nothing to help Jimmy Carter in 1980.
And the Bush's did nothing to help Mittens this year(but set up the new rules for 2016 in their party to help Jeb).
And you are wrong as she has not made it clear at all. She has been busy the last 4 years being the single greatest SOS of all time, and loyally backing Obama, doing what she was asked for by her President.
And once she retires as SOS there is plenty of time to run for 2016. After all, this is not the republican party.
And of course, any savvy political person knows a major candidate does not announce 5 years ahead of time and denies it. Not one person on the scene that was seriously considered (yes, also rans and nobodies do so but they never stand a chance (ala Eugene McCarthy and other way out there candidates that don't get the nomination. Howard Dean didn't get it).
but then you already know all of that.
And all polls indicate Hillary has like a 70% nationwide favorable rating, and 100% of the people know her, so she cannot be defined by others, she and Bill both are enjoying their highest popularity of all time, and with Obama's blessing they would have the backing of every single demographic group in the nation (and of course the line "it's the economy stupid' could be used again, and by 2014, most people will be enjoying the benefits of the health care changes, and Hillary could advance that making it even better.
And the Clinton's like Obama know how to play politics.
I can't think of one major politician (aside from the great LBJ) who just retired. Trend setters like Hillary just don't give it up. And she would in history surpass the person she idolizes the most, Eleanor Roosevelt by running and winning in 2016. Matter of fact, the only person I could see beating her in the primaries would be Michelle Obama and 2016 is too soon for her. She is young enough that 2024 would be a perfect time after Hillary ends her second term.
A Hillary/Patrick or Hillary/Castro ticket would be nice, but it would be better if Castro became Texas governor and helped make Texas a blue state again, and best if Warren if she wins staying in the Senate and being the top liberal. Patrick should be fasttracked to the US Supreme Court.(or, should John Kerry take a cabinet position, SOS or something else, and Warren wins, Patrick should appoint himself to the Senate).Should Kerry leave, last thing we need is for Scott Brown to win that seat back.
As for Andrew C., well, after the incident when he was running his dad's campaign against Koch and that whisper campaign of "Vote for Cuomo not the homo", well, that has never been forgiven, and would be remembered.
And any other name is just running for VP.
And one thing the democrats cannot do is cede to the republicans the first serious woman candidate nominee. It would be foolish when democrats have a big majority in the polls of woman nationwide. It is time.
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