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PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 12:38 PM Mar 2015

OK...here's the thing on "respecting" religious and other supernatural beliefs.... [View all]

Last edited Thu Mar 26, 2015, 05:49 PM - Edit history (1)

I used to have my nails done by a woman who was into every kind of
"woo" you can mention.

Her husband was a "psychic", and she was learning to read cards, auras, crystals...you name it.

I LIKED her. She was funny, open-minded and could shellac a mean nail.
I was at first amused by her out-spoken woo-ness. My daughters often
accompanied me for manicures and they liked her too.

Problem is, I NEVER felt comfortable telling her "this is CRAZY talk" while she went on
about the visitations she received from dead people, or her refusal to go to certain places
or events, based on readings and portents.

It came to a head one night when she was showing me pictures from a "haunted house"
that she had toured with her friend. She was particularly geeked about the "orbs" she
could see in the pictures.

I started to tell her about the effects of water vapor and dust in photography, and I could
see her start to harden and become defensive.

This, after MONTHS of listening to her go on and on about "houses" and signs, etc...

The point of this rambling report, is that while I respected her as a person, I had and have
NO respect for her beliefs.

None.

After the "orb" incident, I stopped going to see her. It was apparent that while she felt
it was perfectly OK for her to flap on about her supernatural beliefs and experiences, to
vocalize my DISbelief was forbidden.

I like to be in places where I can say: "That's crazy!"

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It does go both ways... TreasonousBastard Mar 2015 #1
I can't imagine that situation even happening! PassingFair Mar 2015 #2
+1 F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #4
??? trotsky Mar 2015 #3
"Yeah we have to imagine that. Because it never fucking happens". whathehell Mar 2015 #7
Thank you for admitting the scenario described doesn't happen. trotsky Mar 2015 #8
LOL..You might want to try remedial reading, whathehell Mar 2015 #17
Yeah, you did. trotsky Mar 2015 #18
You've obviously never heard of edhopper Mar 2015 #39
I punched that in to the Google, and this was the first image hit: trotsky Mar 2015 #40
That is hilarious, edhopper Mar 2015 #44
It also needs to be in the wrist... trotsky Mar 2015 #45
It also assumes edhopper Mar 2015 #46
Oh snap! n/t trotsky Mar 2015 #83
You don't know what you are talking about. Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #108
I'd get a mani/pedi there, for sure. PeaceNikki Mar 2015 #105
DU has a nail salon? Fumesucker Mar 2015 #11
I know, right? trotsky Mar 2015 #21
Conveniently located inside the A&A Group. Next to the elevator. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #47
Going down? Yes, thanks, with Mr. King... onager Mar 2015 #100
I've listened to the song ten times already. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #147
Missing the point....I like it here because I CAN say: PassingFair Mar 2015 #13
I can always make my own point. n/t whathehell Mar 2015 #16
I guess you can...just not usually in protected rooms. PassingFair Mar 2015 #19
Yeah this should be fun. trotsky Mar 2015 #20
Not here you can't EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2015 #61
Oh for fucks sake.. whathehell Mar 2015 #81
Providing a safe haven for one of the most disliked and disrespected groups is important LostOne4Ever Mar 2015 #82
You're making a bfd out of notthing.. whathehell Mar 2015 #84
You waltzed into a safe-haven and started the pissing, FYI. PeaceNikki Mar 2015 #103
Masterful. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #106
Actually, I didn't "barge" into anything but what I saw whathehell Mar 2015 #111
I might have believed you. But my skin is thin. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #115
Yeah..Uh huh..Whatever. whathehell Mar 2015 #124
there are no scare quotes around safe havens here Lordquinton Mar 2015 #118
Goodbye whathehell Mar 2015 #123
A 15k post user putting safe haven in scare quotes. Fascinating. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #126
Imagine how it would be received if one of us went into Interfaith or another believers zone... trotsky Mar 2015 #87
I get it.. whathehell Mar 2015 #88
Yet DU is nothing like real life. trotsky Mar 2015 #91
Aww.. whathehell Mar 2015 #129
The opposite of preach or proselytize is quiet and shy? Since when? AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #127
"I thought I asked you not to post in here." AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #92
Yep, doesn't matter what you do or say. trotsky Mar 2015 #95
Oh please, some of us have been banned from the interfaithy echo chamber for our MERE PRESENCE IS AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #90
I post about my disbelief quite a bit on DU, that's true. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #22
Imagine the horror... trotsky Mar 2015 #35
That's what I get for trying to be fair. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #96
To be fair, the Latest page does not discriminate. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #41
This is not uncommon. Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #5
Yep, not just "woo"....goes for talking snakes and virgin births, and heaven too. nt PassingFair Mar 2015 #15
Also talking jack-asses FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #42
i lost a friend because she kept insisting i was mopinko Mar 2015 #6
I've stopped being silent central scrutinizer Mar 2015 #9
Interesting article, thanks. nt F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #10
Speaking out is how the tide is turned... PassingFair Mar 2015 #26
I just thank God that we Virgos don't believe in that crap! n/t Binkie The Clown Mar 2015 #12
LOL...nt PassingFair Mar 2015 #14
Yes. You were blessed. or blest. or something. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #23
Yup, you got an audible laugh with that one! FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #43
What whiners about DU "anti-theism" miss whatthehey Mar 2015 #24
What I always see missing in these types of thread TM99 Mar 2015 #25
I was perfectly happy listening to her point of view.... PassingFair Mar 2015 #27
In the middle of a very similar situation. onager Mar 2015 #28
You must have a cloak of invisibility... PassingFair Mar 2015 #29
Thanks for that visual.. asking that question in downtown Mecca. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #153
non acceptance of religious idiocy, even by expressing a different view Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #30
"militant" even....n/t PassingFair Mar 2015 #31
dogmatically fundamentalist Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #32
Could you define that for me, please? PassingFair Mar 2015 #33
sure: Warren Stupidity Mar 2015 #34
! PassingFair Mar 2015 #36
That should be the meme of the week. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #38
The really interesting theists in my life are happy to have the conversation. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #37
Well, there is your problem! Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #112
It's the Pollyanna in me, I guess. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #114
Why didn't you express TM99 Mar 2015 #48
At least you don't have a problem with your self esteem. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #50
That poster has other problems. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #51
Well, as snarky as ever I see. TM99 Mar 2015 #52
That was a rollercoaster of a read Lordquinton Mar 2015 #78
I'm just hoping he doesn't send us a bill. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #119
I wonder what he has to say about passive-aggressiveness? trotsky Mar 2015 #99
How's this for hypocrisy?: beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #121
Yes, and certain psycho-scolds skepticscott Mar 2015 #130
Yep. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #131
Self-esteem can be developed. TM99 Mar 2015 #53
Better relationships, huh? LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #54
I have terrific real relationships. TM99 Mar 2015 #58
You have been pompous and judgmental. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #59
He's just being "real" PassingFair Mar 2015 #72
It's pretty clear he doesn't like us. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #74
I'm the Queen of England. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #128
LMAO! beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #132
Thank you, Oh Enlightened One, for stopping by to drop your pearls of wisdom upon us. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #164
I was going to discuss this with you, but It looks like I will have catch you next time (nt) LostOne4Ever Mar 2015 #75
"Why did you wait?" Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #113
You said you knew you were not welcome and never posted in the AA group. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #56
If you missed the context, then you didn't read it all the way through Lordquinton Mar 2015 #79
Must be nice traipsing through life expecting that no one ever find their voice and say 'I disagree' AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #94
I see our resident Dr. Phil showed up in your time of need. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #49
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #55
No, you went to Interfaith and acted like one. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #57
Why would I think I was invisible. TM99 Mar 2015 #60
First you tell me to fuck off and now to take care? beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #62
Damn. A 0-7 hide. That's gotta burn Heddi Mar 2015 #65
Did anyone see the results? beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #66
This was sent to me by a friend Heddi Mar 2015 #67
Gee, ain't I a stinker? beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #69
You're just a meanie atheist, wanting to kick out all the GOOD atheists Heddi Mar 2015 #70
Okay. You got me. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #71
Not just 7-0, but such obvious snark and hostility skepticscott Mar 2015 #102
Jury says otherwise, 7-0 LOL AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #86
Hey, what's 'beyond dickish'? AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #98
Imagine it as being Heddi Mar 2015 #134
So it's not some complicated medical jargon? beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #138
Not this time Heddi Mar 2015 #141
"I didn't come in here and act like a dick" EvolveOrConvolve Mar 2015 #63
Hi Mr/Ms Host. I'd like to request that this poster's future in AA be considered Heddi Mar 2015 #64
You speak for me too. Curmudgeoness Mar 2015 #68
he needs to be banned for his own good. PassingFair Mar 2015 #73
I'm still giggling at edhopper Mar 2015 #76
Say it ain't so! LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #77
The quotes edhopper Mar 2015 #89
Got it. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #97
Because that's what psycho therapists do. PassingFair Mar 2015 #125
And a record producer Heddi Mar 2015 #135
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #140
Everything counts Heddi Mar 2015 #144
The things you learn. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #137
I agree Lordquinton Mar 2015 #80
What Lordquinton said. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ n/t trotsky Mar 2015 #93
He is not the only one who needs to be shown the door skepticscott Mar 2015 #101
I agree PeaceNikki Mar 2015 #104
Yep, Banhammer Time! mr blur Mar 2015 #107
This^^ Lordquinton Mar 2015 #109
I have an email out to other hosts to discuss this Goblinmonger Mar 2015 #110
Please proceed skepticscott Mar 2015 #116
I kind of like our procedure Goblinmonger Mar 2015 #117
I agree, it is frustrating Lordquinton Mar 2015 #120
I understand that certain steps have to be gone though skepticscott Mar 2015 #122
Case in point skepticscott Mar 2015 #154
I think whatthehell did actually wander in here... PassingFair Mar 2015 #155
I think he knew where he was after his first post, LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #156
Yes, but even more to the point skepticscott Mar 2015 #157
It seems like every time we ban a self proclaimed atheist beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #158
Maybe it's better sometimes LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #159
I agree. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #160
I think he's so convinced skepticscott Mar 2015 #161
It's possible. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #162
Yet ANOTHER case in point skepticscott Mar 2015 #167
It's good for us to have our daily tone-scold. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #168
Don't you mean "some" or "many" of us? beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #170
What does "mean" mean? LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #171
I'll have to consult my colleagues at Stanford. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #172
No need... skepticscott Mar 2015 #173
Well that makes things much easier. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #174
And yet again skepticscott Mar 2015 #175
Did someone raise a bat signal? Lordquinton Mar 2015 #176
Yessir! :tips hat: Heddi Mar 2015 #133
Ditto EVERYTHING you said, Heddi beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #136
That's just amazing Heddi Mar 2015 #139
Hey, my tits love onager. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #142
Ah, from the root to the toot Heddi Mar 2015 #143
Creepy? onager Mar 2015 #165
Yes! No complaints at all about the way they conduct themselves or this forum. LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #145
Yes, we are quite a stunning bunch Heddi Mar 2015 #146
A horde of seething malcontents. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #148
Hey shush your mouth. Go check out my yearbook thread Heddi Mar 2015 #149
If there's a malcontented, unsociable asshole in this group skepticscott Mar 2015 #150
Well I like you anyway. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #151
Guess I'll just have to cope with that skepticscott Mar 2015 #163
Yep. beam me up scottie Mar 2015 #169
+infinity LostOne4Ever Mar 2015 #152
THIS ^^^^^^^^ haikugal Mar 2015 #166
Had to make a temporary change to my Ignore list to see this subthread. trotsky Mar 2015 #85
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