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Tue Apr 10, 2012, 10:10 PM

79. As said

 

Conscience is hard to define, but I would go with the relation of self-referentiality as the essential feature. "Know thyself", as Socrates guided. Which BTW need not be limited to self-analysis and self-definition, but can mean also self-sentience as sensual self-awareness, basically the answer to the question "how do you feel" without putting it into words and thoughts but just feeling.

"Matter" is also quite vague term, prototypically it refers to tangible 3D objects with mass etc. (in 4D timespace?). But are the equations of e.g. quantum field theory and waveforms in n-dimensional Hilbert space (ie. geometrical/mathematical mental images and relations) "matter"? And does it really matter if the latter are defined as "matter" or "mental images"?

As for "mind", I would reserve that word for the "space" or "no-form"/"potential for all possible forms" where mental images and self-referential thoughts about thoughts (e.g. subject-object relations) take actual shape and "inform".

Making no further assumptions, I don't really see the logical or rational point of assuming that mental images of forms in n-dimensional Hilbert-space causally reduce to 3- or 4-dimensional classical matter (alone). And as for sensory experience in this "body-host" called me, I can best describe it primarily as sensory field without clear boundaries, just spatio-temporal "tresholds" actualizing as conscious sensory experiences, and analytic divisions into seeing, hearing and touching and warmth and pain etc. being secondary levels of interpretation, where neural processes no doubt play a role.




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