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ROBROX

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Sun Oct 28, 2012, 04:01 PM Oct 2012

The big question mark over gasoline from air [View all]

12:10 22 October 2012 by Paul Marks

In a shipping container on a British industrial park, not far from where George Stephenson launched the world's first steam railway in 1825, another transport revolution might be beginning. Every day the machinery inside produces half a liter of purified gasoline. It sounds humdrum until you realize one thing: the only raw material used is air.

Last week, Air Fuel Synthesis (AFS), a company in Stockton, UK, revealed the first successful demonstration of an idea that dates back to the oil crisis of the 1970s: that carbon, hydrogen and oxygen can be plucked from carbon dioxide and water in air to be converted into methanol and then morphed into gasoline.

However, amidst the headlines, some media coverage overlooked the key point: the energy efficiency of the process has yet to be demonstrated. This matters because the technique uses electricity for key stages. It should not require more energy input than is gleaned from burning the fuel it produces.

The big idea is to capture atmospheric CO2 and turn it into fuel so there's no net increase in CO2 from cars and trucks fueled by such gasoline. As long as the process is powered by renewable electricity sources such as solar, wind or tidal, using the gasoline is carbon neutral.



http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22407-the-big-question-mark-over-gasoline-from-air.html

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could coal plants use this process?? Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #1
There wouldn't be much point ... VMA131Marine Oct 2012 #3
What I meant to capture the Co2 that coal plants spew out Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #4
Co2 is fungible ToxMarz Oct 2012 #5
You could. Some algae-to-biodiesel proposals suggest coal plants as a CO2 source NickB79 Oct 2012 #14
That would be as silly as diluting gasoline with alcohol. sofa king Oct 2012 #16
Suck the hydrocarbons out of the air. liberal N proud Oct 2012 #2
Nope caraher Oct 2012 #8
That's one thing they did point out, that it's not economically feasible Warpy Oct 2012 #6
Problems krispos42 Oct 2012 #9
Don't need tanker trucks jeff47 Oct 2012 #12
Yeah,but they have to be close by the plants... krispos42 Oct 2012 #15
One can extend the pipelines as needed jeff47 Oct 2012 #17
My concept is that each plant starts out small... krispos42 Nov 2012 #21
Hydrogen is a problem jeff47 Oct 2012 #13
No question mark caraher Oct 2012 #7
The author should have said something else Confusious Oct 2012 #10
They're wrong. jeff47 Oct 2012 #11
But here is the rub NoOneMan Nov 2012 #23
So since it won't pay of instantly, we should just keep burning stuff like always? jeff47 Nov 2012 #24
Keep burning stuff like always opposed to burning more stuff like always? NoOneMan Nov 2012 #25
Alternatively (and probably more efficiently) Bosonic Nov 2012 #18
Interesting idea... caraher Nov 2012 #19
Don't know the energy requirements of the air technique either Bosonic Nov 2012 #20
More of an E&E post ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2012 #22
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